I have the standard Toyota headunit in my 2, and when i have the cd player or tape on the aerial stays up?? In my last 2 it went down and i did check i had the traffis reports ect off? Any ideas what the problem could be??
Mine did that til I replaced the aerial with a short one. Search should throw something up
Phil
i take it you now have a post facelift 2, in which case there are no ways of doing this from the head unit, your only options are to put in a switch to stop it from going up or to replace the head unit with one that does have this function
Yeh but my old 2 was a pre facelift and it never done this?? s:( :( s:( The old one had a standard toyota sony headunit, and this one has a removeable face and the cd player unit, directly under it. Would this have n e thing to do with it? being a diff headunit; not having the same function?
different head unit = different capabilities / behaviour, so YES
Could it be that you have Traffic Announcements enabled?
Quote from: "Emmanuel"Could it be that you have Traffic Announcements enabled?
Definately not! I made that mistake when i got my first 2. thats the first thing i checked on this one s:) :) s:)
yes there are options for the ariel on there.... to stay up or go down when changing to cd
Quote from: "leon_in_uk"yes there are options for the ariel on there.... to stay up or go down when changing to cd
Where are they? What do i need to do??
Quote from: "kay-mr2"and this one has a removeable face and the cd player unit, directly under it. Would this have n e thing to do with it? being a diff headunit; not having the same function?
yep, thats not a stock head unit(H/U) so we can only guess as to the functions of it. There are no UK spec stock H/U's with a removable face. The aerial only does what its told, your best bet for money is to rewire the aerial signal to the pax window disable switch, it'll cost you the sum total of a piece of wire, some splices and your time
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I've emailed MrT's Customer Relations department to get them to ask Technical Services (I'm not paying prime rate telephone charges)
If they come back with zilch I have a better idea for a control switch. It's a pity I can't understand even the simplist of wiring diagrams s:!: :!: s:!:
Email back from MrT
Thank you for your email dated 9 August 2006.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to retract the aerial if the audio unit is in use. I am sorry for any disappointment this may cause.
I would recommend that you refer your vehicle to your local Toyota Centre to enable them to investigate whether the aerial can be adjusted to reduce the wind noise you are experiencing.
MUPPETS s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!:
Now to plan B
I have pulled out the stupid coin holder to the right of the alarm LED and taken it to the local H*****ds. Unfortunately the switches they sell are too small, so it's off tomorrow to a more specialist auto parts retailer. I'm stuffed when I find the right component because I couldn't understand a wiring diagram to save my life s:!: :!: s:!:
a Touyota switch is only around £10 and you know that will fit
Cheers mark
Not only must the Traffic be off, but the RDS must be off aswell. - I expect you have tried this its just no-one has mentioned the RDS off yet.
Quote from: "ianmc"Not only must the Traffic be off, but the RDS must be off aswell. - I expect you have tried this its just no-one has mentioned the RDS off yet.
Yes i did turn all that off. But it still wont go down. s:( :( s:(
Me too
Looks like plan B is favourite.
oh no... just experienced this!!
driving along the other day and now the aerial stays up...
when the car is switched off it seems like there is still a click!!! doesnt sound like a motor tho.. what can it be?
also i want a little bee sting aerial anyway, so how do i get the fittings for a little cheapy??
If you don't need to be able to receive very faint radio signals, get yourself a Lord Takuban aerial (http://spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=35056) on the next group buy on Spyderchat. Easy to install, looks great and you'll never have to hear that giant whippy aerial again.
You should get the "bundle" for $119 shipped to the UK. At current exchange rates, that's only about £60.
I had this with my first early 'two' before I put an inline switch in the power feed to the antenna
was in the car wash (yes I know its a sin!) playing a cd and a traffic broadcast came on, and up went the aerial s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
came out of the car wash and the aerial was hanging down the side of the wing in a sorry state. so I decided it pull the broken aerial off...........26 stitches and half a pint of blood later I realised the coax cable was strong stuff and pulling on a jagged aerial isnt a good idea!! s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:? :? s:?
£60 for an aerial... i know it stays up but im not that desperate to pay £60!!
what have other people done other than this?
how much are the s2000 aerials?
Quote from: "leon_in_uk"how much are the s2000 aerials?
even more as you need teh mast, mount, and amplified base
whats the solution then? £60 min??
You don't actually "need" LT's aerial. What you will need though is to replace the electric aerial with the static mast and plastic trim holder. Part numbers are on LT's SC thread and cost about £37 (IIRC) from MrT.
You can then put in any aerial that has the same thread. Don't buy it until you have the new mast in your hands - they can be very different!
I have LT's aerial, and TBH reception can be very spasmodic depending on how close you are to transmitters. Definitely not as good as the OEM tall one.
and teh same thread length.
thast why an S2000 mast won't fit our base
i never really listen to the ardio anyway. if i do its radio 1, and you dont need the biggest aerial to pick that up...
can you wind the aerial down somehow? if i get underneath?
another thing, where is the controller?? where abouts behind the drivers seat????
Quote from: "leon_in_uk"another thing, where is the controller?? where abouts behind the drivers seat????
Under the plastic in the storage bin.
how do i get to it?
ta
Quote from: "leon_in_uk"how do i get to it?
ta
Unscrew the bin doors (both) and you'll see what to do.
seen it, tiny black box, and when i got to it the underlay was slightly wet, so thinking its from that its not working. is there anyhting i can do to make this work again, from other people experiences please?
you dont listen s:roll: :roll: s:roll: told you all of this before mate, your only chance is to put it in the airing cupboard and keep your fingers crossed but to be honest its probably screwed s:( :( s:(
yes but thats the thing stu. i have taken the relay out frokm under the bin, disconnected the wire and also put in the airing cupboard. it didnt seem to be wet or damp..
me thinks its got to be the motor abouve the wheel arch not the relay!!
what you think stu?
Quote from: "leon_in_uk"what you think stu?
i'll look at the diagrams when i get home but i'm still willing to bet that the controllers fried, water and electrics aren't known to work that well at the best of times. Have you got a multimeter btw?
yes my step dad has.. shall i take the relay to him and see if there is any amp reading? this is the the browny/black box behind the drivers seat isnt it??
does say aerial relay on top. thanks
dont bother with amps, you want to shove the red probe up the back of the connector at pin 2 and earth the other probe.Then read the voltage when you turn the stereo on, you should get 12v. If not then one last final check from pin 7 and earth which should give you 12v again when the stereo is switched on. If you get voltage at pin 7 and not at pin 2 then the relay module is cream crackered, if not them come back to me
stu was the relay, burnt right through.. could this be from water??
check out from the pic!!
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sorry, cant make anything out in that picture, if the relay is thoroughly burnt then its probably knackered, however a light amount of burning at the relay contacts end is quite normal
if you can see the boxes they are meant to be nice and straight on the corners..
see the top box, its melted.. and the box was also melted in the middle so some serious heat must of got into it...
i have just ordered one for £30.. toyota wanted £120 just for this!
when i put the new relay in.. do i have to do anything to the aerial? motor etc?
Quote from: "leon_in_uk"when i put the new relay in.. do i have to do anything to the aerial? motor etc?
yeah, hope it turned the power off to it when it failed, otherwise it could have burnt the motor out
and im guessing that isnt cheap!!
surely if the relay has burnt out then its liek a fuse (which also burnt out) and should stop things liek that happening..
but what im saying is the motor could be jammed couldnt it casusing the relay to burn out too.
in theory, yes
silly me, check this out!!!
when cleaning my drain hole on the drivers side the one side of the drain hole broke away from the outside.
so i used cilicon to put it back right, i didnt click the drain hole back in place properly and since then obviously all the water has been flushing in my storage bin-floor...
thats why my aerial is brokwr cus the relay. for sure!!!
and when driving the water was going everywhere on the floor and its all linked if i turn right all water shoots left...
silly me, at least i know the problem know tho.
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next problem stu....
s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
i have just put my relay in and connected it, changed the cd player to cd and it didnt go down... s:( :( s:(
do i have to reset the ecu or anything??
It doesn't, well certainly not on post 03, and I believe pre 03 as well.
One of the reasons to get a "bee-sting" aerial
im due to sell my car hopefully within the next 2 weeks, what can i do short term..
is there any chance of winding down the motor somehow and leaving it down?
better down than up..
Sorry can't help. I assumed from your previous post that it was OK on radio, it didn't go down on CD (which it doesn't).
Stupid question, but presumably the problem is that it won't go down when you turn the radio off, or switch the ignition off?
If that is correct, for about £35 you can buy a non-electrical mast from Mr T and add a screw-in aerial if you think that would be better.
ok thanks, need to find somehow of getting that aerial down then.. hopefully it may just need some grease or something, will have a look at the motor on sat.
Quote from: "roger"It doesn't, well certainly not on post 03, and I believe pre 03 as well.
Pre-03
should retract when on CD as long as you don't have Traffic Announcements turned on on the radio side of things.
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "roger"It doesn't, well certainly not on post 03, and I believe pre 03 as well.
Pre-03 should retract when on CD as long as you don't have Traffic Announcements turned on on the radio side of things.
pre 03 it
does retract on cd if ta and all the other announcement thingies are switched off s:) :) s:)
the aerial is broke as it stays up without the ignition on..
the relay is new and the fuse dont blow. it must be the motor...
how can i wind this down guys??
Quote from: "edward.carter"pre 03 it does retract on cd if ta and all the other announcement thingies are switched off s:) :) s:)
My emphasis was on the 'should' because I know Leon's is broken and doesn't, y'see s;) ;) s;) s:P :P s:P
Leon - is it possible to brute force it, so to speak? (i.e. push, hard)
Are you getting 12v on both sides of the relay at all now?
i will test the relay tomora, but it just came and both blocks were fine..
i did push down on the aerial also, the fuse is the same as the cd player isnt it???
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "edward.carter"pre 03 it does retract on cd if ta and all the other announcement thingies are switched off s:) :) s:)
My emphasis was on the 'should' because I know Leon's is broken and doesn't, y'see s;) ;) s;) s:P :P s:P
Leon - is it possible to brute force it, so to speak? (i.e. push, hard)
Are you getting 12v on both sides of the relay at all now?
sorry didnt realise was when ignition was off s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
paul had this on his sounded as if motor was turning but aerial not going down , as if aeial had disconnected from motor, in the end he just forced it down and then it was properly broke, never used the radio very often so it just stayed down all the time.
when you have had the car running and then switch it off, can you here the motor turning as if its trying to get the aerial down?
no, and would imigine if the motor was trying to go and not going down/jammed it would be pretty loud...
it doesnt even click.. it like all electric has switched off from that part.
Surely the output of this relay would be either 12v or 0v?
Why not connect 12v or 0v directly to where the output of the relay would be (with the relay "open" or removed) and see if you can get the aeriel to go up or down, thus eliminating the relay from the equation?
Richie.
Just careful guys in this weather. The freezing fog had turned my aerial into an ice pole this morning. Turned off the car and there was a grinding noise as the aerial tried to retract.
Quickly turned it back on and chipped the ice off.
Just keep your eyes and ears open.
Simon
Good thinking Simon.
The freezing fog had turned my aerial into an ice pole this morning.
Yeah this happened to me as well, thought someone was throwing glass at the body work s:o :o s:o No damage done - the ice was fairly thin. The sooner I get rid of that damned ariel the better.
you tried anything to fix it?
so then guys, i will be looking at the motor shortly, please can anyone tell me if i can wind down the motor and leave the aerial inside!!
I have now got the "Leon" aerial problem, the aerial motor buzzes when radio turned on or off, but the aerial stays up.
I am sure the aerial is duff, anyone know where to get a replacement
electric, or manual aerial, that will fit, [apart from Mr T ]
s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:( Keith
you can try pm Adam (Jap GT300) but if not then try a breakers yard
i tried on any breakers on the net. motors wont be that much, just didnt have time to fix it, i have already spent £30 on the relay and that is working fine, you will only need a motor!!!
search on google breakers and put in what you want. then replace the motor and the aerial will work!
I have taken the aerial off, motor had one brush seized, freed this , motor ran but due to the nylon drive gear having several teeth worn off, motor whizzed but aerial just sat there, s:cry: :cry: s:cry: .I dismantled the driving mechanism en bloc from the aerial, cut off the nylon drive rack, and binned all that, re-fitted aerial only which now pulls up and pushes down manually. s:) :) s:) .Will sort an electric replacement later, [if needed].
Either its had some past abuse or its shoddier than an XJ6.
2nd from oldest Keith
I believe you can buy just the mast assembly - i.e. just the metal bit with the nylon drive rack inside it, and it's far far cheaper than a whole new assembly s;) ;) s;) (Even from Toyota)
Drive in quietly tonight so as not to upset the neighbours with Boost and BOV .... turn off the radio - GAJANGKAJANKAJANKAJANKA!!!
Motor is clearly fine - but the aerial stays up. Will a new mast and nylon do-dah fix this you reckon?
Sounds like a good possibility, aye.
Nice impression of the noise, btw s;) ;) s;)
I think I've still got my old mast and assembly and bits floating around the garage if you want it, just shoot me a PM.
Hi guys.
I take it from this thread that you can just replace the mast without the motor. I've been wanting to fit the post 03 black one to mine. Will it fit and whats the part no.?
post 03 black one? afaik, all models came with the standard extra long silver metal extending jobbie. There was a GB on spyderchat for a smaller black replacement if that's what you mean?
I've seen some facelift roadsters with the Aerial up and it was black with just the tip chrome. Not after a short one.
Lessons learned:
Part number for the rod and nylon feed assembly is 86337-17080.
If your old aerial has less than 115cm of nylon exposed when you remove it, there's still some left inside the winder s:? :? s:?
To get to the winder, put goggles on before you tackle the arch liner s:? :? s:?
If you have to dismantle the winder, keep a swear box handy s:? :? s:?
Grease gets everywhere s:? :? s:?
Reassembly is a breeze, especially after a few beers s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Job done!
Stonking job - well done Ste s:wink: :wink: s:wink: