I am currently running 18" wheels on my roadster, they look fantastic and the handling is great!! The only noticeable difference is you can feel the extra weight of them... The things we do for looks ??? s:D :D s:D
I will try and unload some pictures once I find out how to use the site?
I am running 215/35/18 tyres all round.
Hi
This thread is useless without pictures s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Welcome.
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Philster.
You running the 215/35/18s all round?
Must admit I like the larger wheels on the car (pics?) but would be terrified it would really ruin the handling which IMO is the best thing about the 2 s8) 8) s8)
Each to their own though s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
PS, looks like your caps lock is stuck on.
yeah, please stop shouting.
and please prepare yourself for teh ditch now.
same size around will result in bad oversteer and with those tyres you will get zero warning
when they go they go.
I had great fun with same size all round (on 17s) Much more incisive turn in, tenacious front end grip. Thought it made road driving much more enjoyable, as low speed cornering much improved.
Granted, you have the possible pendulem effect of engine out back to cause snap oversteer on the faster corners when the car is 'weighted up' - but for realistic sub 70mph A&B road blasting, I much preferred 205 all round - made 4 wheel drifts much more controllable too s:D :D s:D
Of course I couldn't possibly recommend it - it removes some of the built in safety element, but I enjoyed it so much i removed 4mm of tread in 2000 miles (off front and back s:shock: :shock: s:shock: )
Re bigger wheels, major problem I found was lousy low speed ride quality over broken tarmac / potholes - really made the car shake and rattle. This was on 205/40/17. It was like a magic carpet when I put on the old 15"s with big squashy sidewalls.
Quote from: "s12vea"I am currently running 18" wheels on my roadster, they look fantastic and the handling is great!! ...........
I am running 215/35/18 tyres all round.
Quote from: "markiii"and please prepare yourself for the ditch now.
same size around will result in bad oversteer and with those tyres you will get zero warning
when they go they go.
Not only oversteer, but just wait for the huuuuuuge amount of aquaplaning the first time you hit a deep puddle with that wide a tyre up front and no weight over the front axle.
And with it being a turbo'd car you
definately want more rear grip than front.
Can I have first dibs on any bits from the rear of the dead car please s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Quote from: "Chris_h"I had great fun with same size all round (on 17s) Much more incisive turn in, tenacious front end grip. Thought it made road driving much more enjoyable, as low speed cornering much improved.
Granted, you have the possible pendulem effect of engine out back to cause snap oversteer on the faster corners when the car is 'weighted up' - but for realistic sub 70mph A&B road blasting, I much preferred 205 all round - made 4 wheel drifts much more controllable too s:D :D s:D
Of course I couldn't possibly recommend it - it removes some of the built in safety element, but I enjoyed it so much i removed 4mm of tread in 2000 miles (off front and back s:shock: :shock: s:shock: )
Re bigger wheels, major problem I found was lousy low speed ride quality over broken tarmac / potholes - really made the car shake and rattle. This was on 205/40/17. It was like a magic carpet when I put on the old 15"s with big squashy sidewalls.
yeah but at least on 17" wheels you get some warning, by the time your rubber bands on 18s communicates that the arse is moving, you are not going to catch it.
Good point Mark - not to mention the fact you can accurately describe the shape and contours of every stone you run over!!
Be interested to see the pics of your car shod with 18's
I will try and post some pictures asap. I am only going to put the 18" on the turbo because I have had them on my previous two roadsters. I will opt for some sensible 17" when the funds allow me.... s:D :D s:D
Thanks for all your feedback and I am surpised that most people don't like the thought of 18" on a roadster? I think they really suit the car and they fill the arches perfectly? On my first roadster the car was lowered 30mm with eibach springs and the second 35-40mm with pi and on both I didn't get any scrubing? Not even on full lock? I must have been lucky s:o :o s:o
steve
Steve,
Can't wait to see pics. I reckon the bigger wheels give it a much more purposeful stance and in the words of one of my pi55 taking friends, it becomes 'less gay'. s:? :? s:?
BTW Steve, to get photo's on here you need to put them on a server somewhere on the internet and then link them to here, you cannot just post them on ROC. If you have problems then pm me
Quote from: "Chris_h"Steve,
Can't wait to see pics. I reckon the bigger wheels give it a much more purposeful stance and in the words of one of my pi55 taking friends, it becomes 'less gay'. s:? :? s:?
if you think a rollerskate looks purposefull then I suppose so s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Quote from: "philster_d"Hi
This thread is useless without pictures s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Welcome.
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Philster.
Did you mean
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I have tje same 18" SIZE only for the rear.
For the front, i prefer to put 17" rims with 205/40 rub...
I suggest you the light weight rims as OZ Ultraleggera, for example, the same that i have now...
Quote from: "s12vea"I am surpised that most people don't like the thought of 18" on a roadster?
I am surprised you are surprised. It's all about adhering to the car's philosophy and whether you like the chav look for your roadster. Personally, 16 rear and 15 front is the largest I would go for (hang on, isn't that what Toyota did on the facelift? I wonder why...).
As for the lack of rubbing, it's probably down to the wrong offset. If you don't respect the '2, it will bite you.
Quote from: "kanujunkie"BTW Steve, to get photo's on here you need to put them on a server somewhere on the internet and then link them to here, you cannot just post them on ROC. If you have problems then pm me
Thanks for that I will send you an email - regards steve s:D :D s:D
try a google search for unsprung weight, anything over standard wheels will reduce performance, if the tyres arnt in contact with the road you will
not get drive on anything but dead smooth tarmac. but hey if bling in tesco's car park is more important than handling and performance thats your choice
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steve
yep looks like a rollerskate
I like s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "Peter Wright"I like s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
expensive though Pete, at circa £20000 per foot s:D :D s:D
Attractive wheels - seem to sit well with the lowering.
How does it feel / drive? did you get the opportunity to weigh them?
PS - it is YOUR car, do with it what you like!!
If function always triumphed over form, we would be without the Audi TT....... now hang on a minute..... s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
looks great. needs kit on car now
yeah really like those wheels.
I'm looking for something similiar.
Would be sticking with the stock sizes though.
Interesting all the posts about same size tyres all round ruining handling.
I have not got a clue about the dynamics of road wheels but I notice SP have produced a 17inch rim for their roadster which they have fitted on all four corners. And that's on a car with circa 200bhp. If it was that disatasterous why would they fit them?
BTW: What wheels are they and where did you get them?
it's not about the wheel stagger, it's about the tyre stagger
you'l notice they use 215 front and 245 rear or something like that
you opic your tyre sizes that you want and then look at what width wheels you need to run that rubber
wheels have a range of safe tyre widths they can accomadate.
now while the width does affect contact patch size and shape the reason you uslly use the smallest width you can get away with is weight, why have more weight due to a wider wheel that your tyre choice does not dictate you need.
In teh world of aftermarket wheels, it's usally cheaper just to make them teh same width, in SP particular case, i'll let them comment
I see, cheers mark.
That's my plan - I've got my 195 toyos up front and 225 down back so am looking for alloys that will take these, as I'm very happy with the setup.
My new TTE springs will help fill out the arches anyway.
No offense but imo you have ruined your car.
It looks like a roller skate, its done nothing for the handling and speed...
When I look to change my alloys it will be for a lighter set than standard.
Quote from: "walkie"No offense but imo you have ruined your car.
It looks like a roller skate, its done nothing for the handling and speed...
When I look to change my alloys it will be for a lighter set than standard.
Each to there own I suppose, I think it looks great s:) :) s:)
Back here in the "colonies" we have a saying about wheels like these...... we say "Well, pimp my ride!"
IMO - cheesy and ricer. Take them back.
I think those 18s look ridiculous u can only get away with that if theres a serious body kit been fitted..
Why not save the money buying 18s and just buy some realy good japanese deep dish 15s and that way ur not getting raped for tyres..
just renewed all mine with goodyear eagles for 170 s:) :) s:)
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Plenty of slating on here for you!.... each to their own - what you've done isn't to my taste but they dont look completely awful... if everyone did the same mods and had the same tastes then it would be a pretty lame owners club imho!!!
As for debate on same wheel size/ tyre choice... not everyones interested in drivin round like they're the Mcrae's long lost brother so dont mind losing a tiny bit of performance/handling.
(when i want my kicks i'll take the cossie to the track or go rent a plane for a few hours)
Sorry for the rant!.. am in a bad mood,working nights and had to vent somewhere!! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
!!!!!( prepared for much abuse in response now)!!!!!
Quote from: "simonp"BTW: What wheels are they and where did you get them?
They are AEZ Cybers. I bought them from Motormania. They offer plently of wheel and tyre packages at competive prices. I maybe selling my set because I fancy a change. Send me a pm if you are interested. s:) :) s:)
steve
15s look too small... zemcimill those red rims - sparcos?
18s look too big
so whos got 16" front 17" rear?
sounds like the best option for me...
personally i think it looks very nice indeed, and the slating that is sometimes given on here is often un called for. Just do what u want at the end of the day its your car and ur paying the money! nice one s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "demon154"personally i think it looks very nice indeed, and the slating that is sometimes given on here is often un called for. Just do what u want at the end of the day its your car and your paying the money! nice one s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
When the slating is done to emphasise safety it is not uncalled for, it is responsible posting.
s:( :( s:( Cant see it, most image hosting sites are blocked at my work... Don't suppose someone could just host an image of it at m http://xs.to/ (http://xs.to/) m for us so I can have a look.
Would be appreciated.
Quote from: "Emmanuel"Quote from: "s12vea"I am surpised that most people don't like the thought of 18" on a roadster?
I am surprised you are surprised. It's all about adhering to the car's philosophy and whether you like the chav look for your roadster. Personally, 16 rear and 15 front is the largest I would go for (hang on, isn't that what Toyota did on the facelift? I wonder why...).
Not read this thread before and i know its an old post but that statement is just daft!
Ah...the art of digging up old threads........
What part of the statement do you mean Boss?
If its the part i think you mean then i agree!
Think the 2 carries them off fine. My concern would be, how harsh has the ride become? whats the effect on standing starts?
Agree with above 2 posts as well
Dont see why there is so much debate on wheel size anyway, if you want better performance bang on a turbo, surely this will have a much bigger impact then reducing unsprung weight by a few pounds.
I like the wheels, I don't think I would go that big myself, purely because I have gone past the stage of wanting to kit my car up to look like something from Max Power, I still like looking at them but just wouldn't want something like that myself.
I just want mine to look nice but not move too far from the standard look.
Quote from: "m4lly"Think the 2 carries them off fine. My concern would be, how harsh has the ride become? whats the effect on standing starts?
Agree with above 2 posts as well
Dont see why there is so much debate on wheel size anyway, if you want better performance bang on a turbo, surely this will have a much bigger impact then reducing unsprung weight by a few pounds.
nope turbo makes you go faster, big stupid wheels just add weight and muck up teh handling, more power won't fix that
Although size and weight could be an issue the main problem is theres no available tyres to run the correct overall tyre diameter, so your speedo is always going to be out! this is why 18's would put me off!
I think the wheels look fab s:D :D s:D -in fact I would say they are the best looking wheels i've seen fitted on an mr2 on this site, the majority in that wheels thread just look utter rubbish, obviously if there is a safety issue that is another matter nobody wants someone to crash but all this 'that looks like a rollerskate' is just jealousy my friend. enjoy them:)
nope it's opinion, if it were jealously I'd buy some
These 18's have recieved a bit of a slatin.
What I would really like to know is, are though's who are saying they will ruin the handling speaking from experience, if thats the case then fair play.
The reason I ask is I drove a 2 on 17's and it felt infintely better than the standard set up
in my experiene it does not ruin the handling, but the car is designed for the setup from the factory, 15" up front and 16" on the rear.so you change that and you had better change other things to compensate for the change in handling.trust me the ride is totaly different with 17" than the stock set up and not for the better.
mine only handled better after i put 17"s on because i fitted the extra bracing options available to the car. you only get the sense of better handling because possible wider wheels as most 17" are 7 inch wide (dont know how wide stock are) but be aware less sidewall on tyres mean less time to react when the car bites, i have seen so many posts regards to people ending in a ditch or spun because of wrong tyre/wheel combinations.
i only went for 17" for looks and nothing else, if i wanted performance i would have kept the 15/16 but you are limited in designs at this size.
at the end of the day its your car you do what you wish but if you ask for somebodies opinion you are gonna get it (see the old posts with my adjustable wing on s:D :D s:D )
Quote from: "m4lly"These 18's have recieved a bit of a slatin.
What I would really like to know is, are though's who are saying they will ruin the handling speaking from experience, if thats the case then fair play.
The reason I ask is I drove a 2 on 17's and it felt infintely better than the standard set up
forget the size for a minute, heavy wheels will make the the car less agile and slower there is no disbuting that.
what they may well do is make you have teh illusion thats it's better due to a reduction in tramlining, or more initial outright grip
however it is possible to have those benefits just through the correct tyre choice, without teh downsides.
big ass wheels kill perfromance, fact.
weather thats an issue is down to teh individual, however teh OP asked for opionions and recieved them
if this thread is about appearence why is everyone going on about speed and handling? surely we should just be commenting on the overal look?
because thats our/my opinion.
however if you want an appearance opinion
it looks like a rollerskate with 18s on
happy s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
very s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "markiii"because thats our/my opinion.
however if you want an appearance opinion
it looks like a rollerskate with 18s on
happy s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Has anyone considered the possbility that rollerskates might actually be considered something nice? If 18s on the spyder looks like rollerskates, then 15s on the spyder would look like those rollerblades with really small wheels. s:wink: :wink: s:wink: Pls don't get mad at me please.
Quote from: "S2077S"Quote from: "markiii"because thats our/my opinion.
however if you want an appearance opinion
it looks like a rollerskate with 18s on
happy s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Has anyone considered the possbility that rollerskates might actually be considered something nice? If 18s on the spyder looks like rollerskates, then 15s on the spyder would look like those rollerblades with really small wheels. s:wink: :wink: s:wink: Pls don't get mad at me please.
I have to agree as I find 15" wheels with unlowered suspension looks odd with a huge arch gap. I find mine with lowered springs and the SP 17" alloys the best compromise when it comes to looks and loss of possible performance s:wink: :wink: s:wink: I have always prefered to see alloys that fill the wheel arch with minimal gap as per the touring cars look s8) 8) s8) I know Mark is the total opposite to me on this one but we all have our different tastes; the world would be a boring place and all that s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I agree with markiii, not the appearance bit, but reducing un-sprung weight is king.
I've personally run my 2 for over a year with no tyre valve covers, no problems. Handles great, even in the wet. Must have saved 2 grams, easy. Can't wait to see how she goes when the rest of the shoddy lacquer Toyota breathed on it finally falls off.
I left a Perodua Kenari, for dead once & it's not even turbo'd.
Quote from: "heathstimpson"Quote from: "S2077S"Quote from: "markiii"because thats our/my opinion.
however if you want an appearance opinion
it looks like a rollerskate with 18s on
happy s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Has anyone considered the possbility that rollerskates might actually be considered something nice? If 18s on the spyder looks like rollerskates, then 15s on the spyder would look like those rollerblades with really small wheels. s:wink: :wink: s:wink: Pls don't get mad at me please.
I have to agree as I find 15" wheels with unlowered suspension looks odd with a huge arch gap. I find mine with lowered springs and the SP 17" alloys the best compromise when it comes to looks and loss of possible performance s:wink: :wink: s:wink: I have always prefered to see alloys that fill the wheel arch with minimal gap as per the touring cars look s8) 8) s8) I know Mark is the total opposite to me on this one but we all have our different tastes; the world would be a boring place and all that s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
17" look fine, and your wheels whilst not teh lightest are designed tominimise thier performance impact
I considered some 18"s for the rears.