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The Workshop => General => Topic started by: Anonymous on September 20, 2006, 14:24

Title: TTET numbers and price
Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2006, 14:24
I was thinking to myself the otherday just how many TTET's are there in the UK at the minute. I have counted 7 SP,ninjiski,MG, David, Gazz, bossman and me. Is there anyone else that I have missed ?

I was also on SP's website pricing the exhaust and de-cat pipe when I noticed that the price of the TTET has gone up to £4299.00 which is £300 mor than we all paid. Oh and just had to put new tyres on the rear ready for winter this turbo is superb.  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
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Post by: Ernie Ball on September 20, 2006, 15:34
That extra £300 might just be enough to price me out.

I wonder if there's a cheaper price for club members...
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Post by: Gazz on September 20, 2006, 15:48
Simon, I'm waiting for them to finish developing the induction kit with a view to possibly fitting that and the decat pipe next year.

Hope you're having as much fun with the TTET as I am, just need a little more power now   s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:    s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:    s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
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Post by: TommyD on September 20, 2006, 15:52
Matt told me that there were 10 kits now on the road in the UK
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Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2006, 15:53
Out of interest what is the best mpg you TTET boys can get on a long motorway run?

this is in no way an attempt to justify a turbo kit to my other half!!!
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Post by: ninjinski on September 20, 2006, 16:20
Quote from: "simonp"Out of interest what is the best mpg you TTET boys can get on a long motorway run?

this is in no way an attempt to justify a turbo kit to my other half!!!

Dont ask - Mine drinks the stuff now!! Mind you I'm never ever off the boost!!

Im trying to remember too just when I last got new YOKO rear tyres (which now need replacing) Im sure it was no more and possibly less than 5-6,000 miles ago - I think Im enjoying the TTET just a little too much!!

For those of you thinking about the SP downpipe its well worth the cash and the difference is noticable - Its very well made too!
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Post by: Anonymous on September 20, 2006, 16:56
The summer has been super with the good weather and top down driving with boost. I have no regets in ever getting it one bit. My tyres lasted 12k miles 4k with the turbo fitted and including 1 track day and I don't usually spin the rear much  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

I usuall get about 230-260 miles out of the full tank depends on how hard you drive it really.
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Post by: Gazz on September 20, 2006, 17:26
i get between 230-250 on a full tank on my daily run from Warrington to Liverpool, lots of sitting in traffic, 21 miles door to door takes me an hour.

If it's a long journey just on motorways it can go up to 300miles/tank.

I got through my last set of rear Toyos in about 8 months
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Post by: roger on September 21, 2006, 10:17
Quote from: "Gazz"Simon, I'm waiting for them to finish developing the induction kit with a view to possibly fitting that and the decat pipe next year.


Ditto....on a NA. I understand that a CEL problem has reared its ugly head.
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Post by: ninjinski on October 2, 2006, 11:39
Just been calculating my fuel consumption with the TTET over the last 2 fills:

22.6 mpg and
25.8 mpg

This is with lots of urban start stop driving still managing to floor it at every opportunity! Fun but not cheap!   s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: Anonymous on October 2, 2006, 18:35
Quote from: "ninjinski"Just been calculating my fuel consumption with the TTET over the last 2 fills:

22.6 mpg and
25.8 mpg

This is with lots of urban start stop driving still managing to floor it at every opportunity! Fun but not cheap!   s8) 8) s8)

  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  Well I'm must be the granny of all grannies  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  
The worst I've obtained on a full tank is 31mpg and normally it's up at 35mpg+
My motoring consists of mainly longish runs in a high gear and very little urban mileage.
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Post by: ninjinski on October 2, 2006, 21:24
Quote from: "DavidM"
Quote from: "ninjinski"Just been calculating my fuel consumption with the TTET over the last 2 fills:

22.6 mpg and
25.8 mpg

This is with lots of urban start stop driving still managing to floor it at every opportunity! Fun but not cheap!   s8) 8) s8)

  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  Well I'm must be the granny of all grannies  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  
The worst I've obtained on a full tank is 31mpg and normally it's up at 35mpg+
My motoring consists of mainly longish runs in a high gear and very little urban mileage.

To be frank I drive HARD and thas putting it mildly!!   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2006, 20:17
Just returned from a DC trip to Nethy Bridge, Scotland and kept details of my mpg.

motorway to Hamilton 260 miles at 37.3mpg (steady driving)

round trip to Applecross (on west coast) lanes and single tracks 285 miles at 33.2mpg (loads of gear changes and high speed section)

motorway journey home 296 miles at 30.9mpg (footdown driving in 6th)

total trip 1366 miles at average of 34.8mpg,  compared to pre-turbo Scotland trip of 43mpg.
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Post by: Liz on November 19, 2006, 22:34
To add an extra question to this - what was your mileages when you had the turbo fitted, mine has 68K on the clock - just a tad worried that the engine might blow!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 19, 2006, 23:21
easy answer to that Liz is just to do a couple of basic checks on the health of your engine prior to going FI

1] compression test, good figures or at the very least level across the cylinders (no more than 15psi difference)

2] monitor oil consumption to ensure you dont have excessive wear

easy checks which anyone should do before deciding to add FI to their car, sadly often not carried out tho.

any half decent garage wil be able to do a compression test for you if you dont have a tester as its a only a quick job

A leak down test is even better as it isnt effected by variables such as cranking speed etc but you need a specialist unit and compressor so not all garages can do this for you.

Basically they pump air into each cylinder at a set pressure (say 100psi), the gauge will show what pressure there is in the cylinder (say 95psi) and the difference between the two is what your leakage on that cylinder is.

all cylinders/rings leak to a certain extent but a worn engine will leak more so and could be problems if you then added a turbo for instance. Its also better than a basic compression test because you can hear where the air is escaping and thus know where you leak is   s;) ;) s;)

hope that all makes sense?
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Post by: loadswine on November 19, 2006, 23:53
Well put Perry, my original 2 used a drop of oil here and there, but a lot of early ones do. Always a happy engine, but it was always going to be NA.
 When FI its under considerably more strain, so it needs to be as good as you can get it. Those couple of checks can give a bit of assurance that the added oomph will be sustainable.

Mind you mileage isn't always the limiting factor as Kaiser has had his supercharged and its done over 100k!
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Post by: Liz on November 20, 2006, 00:22
Makes perfect sense thanks Perry, I had a leak down test done on the Porker before I bought her. Now to find a garage in my area that will do one for me and quickly as the car goes in on the 25th!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2006, 06:45
Quote from: "Liz"To add an extra question to this - what was your mileages when you had the turbo fitted, mine has 68K on the clock - just a tad worried that the engine might blow!

Liz,
I had 18,302 miles on the clock when the TTET was fitted.
David
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Post by: Tem on November 20, 2006, 07:31
Quote from: "DavidM"
Quote from: "Liz"To add an extra question to this - what was your mileages when you had the turbo fitted, mine has 68K on the clock - just a tad worried that the engine might blow!

Liz,
I had 18,302 miles on the clock when the TTET was fitted.
David

The miles shouldn't matter that much, if the engine itself is ok.

You can turbo a +300k miles engine and not have any issues.  s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: aaronjb on November 20, 2006, 09:23
Quote from: "Tem"You can turbo a +300k miles engine and not have any issues.  s8) 8) s8)

And conversely you could turbo a 500 mile engine, find a manufacturing fault and it'll grenade  s;) ;) s;)

If anything an engine with reasonable miles on it is 'proven', if you see what I mean..

You'll be fine, Liz  s;) ;) s;)   And I'm sure SP can do a leakdown test before they do the work..
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Post by: Liz on November 20, 2006, 12:04
Booked into Eleys (Dan knows who I mean) tomorrow for a leak down test, got to be in there at 8.00am, they are as mad as a box of frogs in that place!!
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Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2006, 12:17
They can do leak down tests there?

*makes note*
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Post by: Anonymous on November 20, 2006, 18:42
I had 7946 miles on the clock when I got the TTET fitted.

Simon
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Post by: heathstimpson on November 21, 2006, 07:47
Quote from: "Ekona"They can do leak down tests there?

*makes note*
All garages are excellent at leak tests; that is causing you a severe leaking wallet  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Liz on November 21, 2006, 17:18
Had a leak down test and compression test done on the '2 today and here are the results....First figures are the leak down - 2nd compression.....


No.1 - 93% - 182 PSi
No.2 - 92% - 188 PSi
No.3 - 92% - 185 PSi
No.4 - 91% - 190 PSi

Think that these are ok to go for the Turbo - mileage is 68,500.

The car has still got a slight hiccup on acceleration at around 4,500 rpm which made me worry about pre-cats, but would the figures above still be as high if they were a problem?  There is no power loss whatsoever.
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Post by: markiii on November 21, 2006, 17:26
they are on average 10psi down on mine

but as long as they are all over 180psi and within 15psi of each other they should be ok
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Post by: Anonymous on November 21, 2006, 17:30
all fine Liz   s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Anonymous on December 18, 2006, 13:46
did you get an answer from SP on your power drop probelm Liz?

I note from the thread on spyderchat that your not the only TTET owner with the same problem

 m http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewto ... highlight= (http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=37091&highlight=) m
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Post by: Liz on December 18, 2006, 13:50
Its thought at the moment that it is linked with the VVTi..more to follow.
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Post by: firepower on December 18, 2006, 15:42
hi liz
noticed on a earlier posting that you said your car had a hiccup around 4500 revs so may be your problem is'nt related to the turbo
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Post by: Liz on December 18, 2006, 16:13
Yes, its possibily the VVTi, that will be confirmed early next year though, I have also had O2 sensor issues, which have now been sorted.  Dan has just driven her again and it does seem a little better - got the battery off at the moment doing a proper ECU reset and see what happens then.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 18, 2006, 16:28
Mmm weird one Liz, did you notice this prior to the trubo going in tho?
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Post by: Liz on December 18, 2006, 16:33
Yes unfortunately  s:? :? s:?  , but it is not confirmed that it is the VVTi though, just that it happens around the rpm when it comes in - could be a coincidence... it will get sorted in the end though I am sure, even if it means getting the whole VVTi system replaced if that is what the problem turns out to be.  Here is the dyno - see what you think...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/Turdbabe/dyno.jpg)
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Post by: firepower on December 18, 2006, 22:14
unusual power and torque lines liz   s:? :? s:?  in hindsight it may have helped if you'd had a dyno run before and after the turbo . i think we will all be interested in knowing the reason for your power drop , good luck  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Liz on December 18, 2006, 22:39
I thought that one was being done...no one is more interested than me in what is happening!!  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: philster_d on December 19, 2006, 14:26
the last graph I saw like that was Dans at the perfect touch day
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Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2006, 15:57
True, and that's a definite mapping issue: It's how the VXRs come from the factory. Saying that, on mine the power didn't drop anywhere near as much as that although the torque did, but both were regained within 700rpm.
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Post by: edward.carter on December 19, 2006, 16:15
max power 182bhp@4750rpm
then at 6k'rpm only 150bhp
and torque falls to stock level.   s:? :? s:?    hope you get it sorted, sooner the better, then start enjoying that turbo to the max !!