Some pics of my new front hood, under the rain s:-( :-( s:-(
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looking very nice s:) :) s:) Are the vents functional at all, in the way that you get extra downforce at speed on the front?
Oh and BTW what spoiler is that, I love it s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "northernalex"looking very nice s:) :) s:) Are the vents functional at all, in the way that you get extra downforce at speed on the front?
it's functional to draw some heat from the radiator, but no downforce
to keep the bin, you have to use a black plastic "guide" which forces water away of everything in case of rain, so this prevents any downforce improvement
QuoteOh and BTW what spoiler is that, I love it s:) :) s:)
hand lowered Rotora 3D GT (3.5kg including fixations)
That rear wing is awesome mate perfect height is it carbon fibre? wheres it from?
also how do i get a pic in the side coloumn im asked for an url for the avatar but i dont know how to do that from my pictures sorry for being simple
Quote from: "michaelohare"That rear wing is awesome mate perfect height is it carbon fibre? wheres it from?
Rotora
I modified the rudders, because they were too high
Quotealso how do i get a pic in the side coloumn I'm asked for an url for the avatar but i dont know how to do that from my pictures sorry for being simple
you have to host it somewhere, like imageshack
do you get the guide with the bonnet? I only ask as the bonnet would probably suit my charge cooler rad
Might look nice on a black car
Quote from: "perry190"do you get the guide with the bonnet? I only ask as the bonnet would probably suit my charge cooler rad
yes I had everything alltogether
very nice car. bonnet would look nice on mine, especially with the alloys
let me get over the cost of the seats and I might have one of those in the spring s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "dieamond"Quote from: "northernalex"looking very nice s:) :) s:) Are the vents functional at all, in the way that you get extra downforce at speed on the front?
it's functional to draw some heat from the radiator, but no downforce
If you can draw some heat from the radiarot through the bonnet, instead of forcing it all under the car, aren't you automatically creating some extra downforce?
Slightly offt track. Just want to share my hood since vented hood is mentioned.
A different take on it.
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Nice purple stripes Simon s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Now that's not reflection, but some cool Meserati-rosso stripes I invented. You stick them on and make your 2 run faster!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
If only we could get bonnets like that over here without paying an arm and a leg s:( :( s:(
can you still use the front bin/lid?
Quote from: "Tem"If you can draw some heat from the radiarot through the bonnet, instead of forcing it all under the car, aren't you automatically creating some extra downforce?
Air rushes through the vents to cool the radiator, yes there is downforce. How much I don't know. The heat from the radiator doesn't escape through the vents though due to the rush of cold air coming down from the vents. Instead it dissipates through the front grill. The vents merely helps in the cooling and some added downforce.
Quote from: "perry190"can you still use the front bin/lid?
Simon?
Quote from: "perry190"If only we could get bonnets like that over here without paying an arm and a leg s:( :( s:(
can you still use the front bin/lid?
NO! YOU CANNOT USE THE FRONT BIN OR EVEN THE LID. YOU LOSE THE SPARE TIRE! s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
That's the whole point of vented bonnet. You get it to cool the radiator and provide downforce. If you still use the bin, how else can downforce and cooling come into play?
I'll say get the bonnet, tell the vendor to under declare it on the shipping form, and ship by boat to cut down on S&H and VAT. But pray everyday your bonnet wouldn't get damaged throughout the journey. That's what I did.
The bonnet is not that expensive. It is but not very. 550 quid max including shipping. It's the best looking bonnet I know though.
cheers matey, I dont have a spare anyway as i have Andrews 18" deep dish alloys so a spare would be pointless.
wouldnt want to loose the front bin tho, I was rather hoping that you could just remove the outer plastics to aid air flow and keep the bin/lid for trips away (luggage)
such is life
The thing is Toyota distributed the weight of our 2 with the spare tire in mind. Taking out the bin, lid and tire, you throw off the weight balance of the car. What I intend to do once I get back my 2 is to add a secondary fuel cell and relocate the battery to the front, cut the capacity of the primary fuel cell, to balance the weight out. One needs to be warned of the consequences of locating fuel cell to the front though. In the event of a frontal collisions. its KABOOM!!! But adding a smaller secondary fuel cell that's reinforced and linking it to the primary may be an option one can pursue.
It really is pointless and silly to keep the bin (not that you can), because in the event of a downpour, you might as well keep some goldfish in it. s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "perry190"can you still use the front bin/lid?
yes with the varis, thanks to the guide :-) :-) :-)
thats why I referred to the bin and lid s;) ;) s;)
nice bonnet just not for me unfortunately duwe to the fact that we use the car you go on holiday in so need every bit of luggage space.
fuel cell sounds like a plan, although with the bin in place a secured tool box or the likes does the job just as well
how about some very heavy bracing under the front of the car? surely that will replace the wheel mass?
Quote from: "northernalex"how about some very heavy bracing under the front of the car? surely that will replace the wheel mass?
I think the point is to distribute weight, not adding them.
Yes but if you say its a problem with the weight distribution by removing the wheel then replacing exactly the same mass in a very close position, like under the car as bracing should solve the problem? Moving the mass closer to the ground will also move the centre of gravity downwards slighly increasing stability.
Quote from: "northernalex"Yes but if you say its a problem with the weight distribution by removing the wheel then replacing exactly the same mass in a very close position, like under the car as bracing should solve the problem?
Commonly known as Alex's Heavyweight Anti-Spare Brace. still in the concept stage but Dr Alex is on the job s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Phil
Quote from: "evileye_xc"but Dr Alex is on the job s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
now exactly what do you mean by job?
Phil is just joking, I'm a physics, concepts are my thing, I leave the technical stuff to engineers. Thats the relationship between physicists and engineers, a physicst says.. make me this, an engineer says... ok to make you that I need to make this and this and this and this. Ok I'm rambling, unfortunatly the stuff i made on my phd were all for cryogenics stuff, not much call for liquid nitrogen on the 2 s:) :) s:)
and i meant job, as in a wee jobby!
Quote from: "northernalex"not much call for liquid nitrogen on the 2 s:) :) s:)
How about the ULTIMATE cooling system for the turbo/ supercharger option?
Dr Alex's Freezeratronic Turbo Coolerinator? Just a thought from a thickie s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Phil
So the bonnet s:) :) s:) lol
Aye, I like it. s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Phil
Quote from: "northernalex"Yes but if you say its a problem with the weight distribution by removing the wheel then replacing exactly the same mass in a very close position, like under the car as bracing should solve the problem? Moving the mass closer to the ground will also move the centre of gravity downwards slighly increasing stability.
Now we have to ask ourselves what kind of braces are as heavy as the spare tire (11kg) where the weight is concentrated at one particular spot? Since the weight's been taken out, it wouldn't hurt to work with the current weight and try to distribute it. Get it balanced and having weight reduction at the same time is a plus dont you think? s:D :D s:D
Your idea of moving the mass downwards to achieve lower center of gravity is definitely a right idea. The idea of having a secondary fuel cell in place of the spare tire is certainly not new, at least the idea of it is not. The Techno Spirit MR-S in Japan has its fuel cell relocated to the front (though I'm not sure if they relocated the whole of it, or partially). But I figure if you can relocate 1/4 of the fuel cell (equated to 1/4 full tank, that's 9kg), and cutting 9kg from the rear can be an idea worth pondering if you already have put on several kgs at the rear initially though. Or like you said, replacing something close to the weight of the spare tire to it's original place, we can just add the secondary fuel cell to the front, and be done with it, no weight reduction from the rear whatsoever. Making the combined fuel cell 125% of its original capacity.
What do you think Alex?
About moving the fuel cell from the middle of the car to either end, I'm not sure if that's a good idea. The main idea behind MID-engined car is to get most of the weight in the middle. Moving it away from the middle might not be a good idea, even if it improves the weight distribution measured from the tyres only.
If you already lightened the front, why not lighten the rear (and the middle) as well? Instead of just moving weight around the car, which always tends to add weight too, with new/longer hoses and wiring.
Or try to regain the lost front grip with other things. Like going from 185 to 195, playing with the tyre pressures and alignment. I have 195 up front, with less pressure than the manual says (for 185) and toe out instead of toe in. I don't feel comfortable recommending that to anyone, but I think it's worth a thought and maybe a try if you feel like it. s8) 8) s8) I'm sure there are other ways too.
Some new pics
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very smart looking car. (apart from spoiler)
good job buddy
That looks awesome, and i have to disaggree with Leon, the spoiler looks ace s8) 8) s8)
i like the spoiler too, matches the bonnet a treat s:) :) s:)
superb looking car! blue and black work well together!
change your side mirrors tho! get some APR ones s8) 8) s8)
... still not sure about the exhaust tho s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
i really like it, the bonnet, and spoiler all work well.
the one minor thing for me is the large single exit exhaust, to finish the car off it would look sweet with a stainless twin, or possibly quad exit exhaust.
H & S make a lovely little system.
Quote from: "rtbiscuit"the one minor thing for me is the large single exit exhaust
hes running the amuse titan exaust, lightweight and i think dieamond is getting a new bumper!
Very cool exhaust! s8) 8) s8)
pics look lovley.. whats the spiltters you have on the rear?
i'm sure it is a good exhaust, but i was just commenting on the pics,
and when i said minor, i meant very small and insignificant.
i would be well chuffed if that was my car.
Quote from: "rtbiscuit"i would be well chuffed if that was my car.
... i wouldnt! its LHD! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "northernalex"pics look lovley.. whats the spiltters you have on the rear?
you mean the C-One aluminium under panel ?
ahh thats what it is.. hmm interesting.. with my nappy off after fitting my H+S (i need to modify it a bit) could be worth thinking about.. however i now have a dual pipe.. so might need to modify the Al panel too
to modify your nappy you just cut off the right hand side (as if you were looking at the rear) i think there is a line to follow if you look at the moulding. you basically take the side bit off. you loose the 3rd fixing hole but thats i got the swap over one from which was done by H&S
oops! Someone else was quicker and funnier.