Hi all, Lucy's thrown up a CEL again so rather than rely on the goodwill of my fellow club-members, I've decided to buy myself a OBDII reader. I've used the search function and not got a satisfactory answer so far. Do I need one that's Can-Bus compatible? Any recommendations? I'm not fussed about a PC connection or anything like that, just want to read the codes before deciding whether a trip to Mr T's or SP is necessary. TIA.
I have the Gendan which I can plug in the laptop, however, I know that a few people have purchased one off of Ebay for a reasonable price.
I have one of these, someone in the club recommended it and it has been perfect. s8) 8) s8)
m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHE ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHECK-ENGINE-SCANNER-ERROR-CODE-READER-OB_W0QQitemZ230091572979QQihZ013QQcategoryZ30921QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) m
Thanks guys, Tem that link doesn't work for me, are you sre it's right? Thanks again.
It seems to work. Try this one:
m http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZeQ2dcafe (http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZeQ2dcafe) m
It's these ones "OBD2 OBD II 2 CHECK ENGINE SCANNER ERROR CODE READER OB" £12.88
(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/2300917893476464_1.jpg)
If that doesn't work either, search m http://ebay.co.uk/ (http://ebay.co.uk/) m for "obd2 reader"
This is a neat little reader. I have the more expensive, pc connected one, but that one looks more than adequate for your basic home mechanic.
Thanks for posting it Tem.
thats the same one that i have Lee, so you've seen how they work.
the more expensive one that Gendan do, the laptop one will give you more information such as what varios sensors are doing in a graphical real time format, very good but it just depends on what you want
Aha... that was the sound of my broadband connection going tits up. The links work now, thanks Tem. I think I'll go for the cheapie one for now, I can always sell it on later if I decide to upgrade, I just wasn't sure whether I needed one that was Can-Bus compatible. I'm sure you said that the system was partly Can-Bus Stu.
Ley us know what the code is when you get it, we should start placing bets now!
Quote from: "Leeber"I'm sure you said that the system was partly Can-Bus Stu.
not at home at the mo but i think it is
Right then, the jury's back. I bought one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAN-Bus-OBDII-OBD2-Trouble-Code-Reader-Scanner-U480_W0QQitemZ300062030317QQihZ020QQcategoryZ30921QQcmdZViewItem) in the end. I figured it would be worth the extra £15 or so for something that was Can-Bus compatible anyway for future cars.
Anyway, the code was...... P0136, which, I believe, is a circuit malfunction on the post-cat o2 sensor. The sensor itself is brand new so I figured that it's most likely a connection problem. I removed the NS rear light unit and unplugged the third o2 sensor. I used a tiny screwdriver to squeeze the terminals a bit closer together on the socket where the sensor plugs in and put it all back together again. I've cleared the light and started the car a few times before taking it for a spin. So far so good. Only time will tell I guess. Anyone else seen this problem before?
Did you have the sp exhaust fitted on yours?
and downpipe?
Yes I did (both). When they were removing the old system the 3rd O2 sensor was damaged (the thread was stripped during removal), so they lent me the one from their own car. I got a CEL light the day after the install but that went away after I replaced their O2 sensor with a new one and sent their's back to them. Obviously, I reset the ECU then as well. I just spoke to Matt and he's confirmed that they've put the old sensor back on their car without any problems, it's not shown a fault.
hmm Liz are you stilll having this problem?
Nope (hugs a tree to touch wood) - since I changed the MAF sensor all has been well, but as Lee's car is so new I wouldn't of thought that would be a problem.
Is that the same code you were getting then Liz? I had no idea. I noticed the other thread where simonmr2(?) is getting a similar CEL after recently having the SP240 work done.
I had a P0420 code which was the catalyst not working efficiently - no surprise with not having a cat there. When I spoke to Matt about this - this was an issue with James's car which was the reason why that the sensor was put further back away from the main flow of the exhaust so that it wouldn't throw a code. As this code is different I wouldn't like to hazard a guess. As I said my new MAF sorted my car out.
heres a neat looking ODB-II reader software
m http://www.obdtools.co.uk/ (http://www.obdtools.co.uk/) m
of course you still need a scan tool but very nice
Liz, give it a go would you and let me know if it works with your scanner
Does it cost?
Quote from: "Liz"Does it cost?
nope, its FREE!
might have to get myself one of these
search around for the adaptor before you do
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "Liz"Does it cost?
nope, its FREE!
At work at moment, can you tell how busy I am !! Will do it moro and if it works will bring along in the evening if you like?
I had a CEL on Tueday which turned out to be O2 Sensor Circuit, Sensor 2 Bank 1 which is the post cat sensor. After a argument with MR T they are ordering me all 3 O2 sensor's to be replaced under waranty on Thursday. I was thinking if it was anything to do with the de-cat pipe but the SP car hasn't had any CEL's. After doing a lot of searching it seams that a lot of people have trouble with this after they change the exhaust or have the sensor out.
Quote from: "Liz"Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "Liz"Does it cost?
nope, its FREE!
At work at moment, can you tell how busy I am !! Will do it moro and if it works will bring along in the evening if you like?
ooh,, yes please Lizzy s:D :D s:D
Well that was short-lived. The CEL's back on, same code. Looks like a job for Mr T then, I just hope they don't notice that the car doesn't have a cat.
Quote from: "Leeber"Well that was short-lived. The CEL's back on, same code. Looks like a job for Mr T then, I just hope they don't notice that the car doesn't have a cat.
Hmm think they might, I was waiting for my car when it had the oil flush done, it was parked next to the viewing window, I looked up to see 4 toyota technicians with their heads under the bonnet looking at the turbo!
Maybe they were confused why you were keeping it with the spare tyre..... s;) ;) s;)
*hides* (Sorry Liz, couldn't resist!)
I was thinking the same thing about the cat. I plan to tell them that it is part of the TTET kit if they ask as there is already a pre cat on it but really what are the chances of some MR T 18 year old spotty mecanic actually knowing what it is ?
Well guy's I sorry to report - I'VE GOT A CEL s:cry: :cry: s:cry: s:cry: :cry: s:cry: Not sure what the code is yet, I'll have to wait until next week now. Guess what I fitted on Saturday - a SP de-cat pipe, I've reset it twice now - OK at first, give it some serious s*** no problem, run softly softly it's back.
Going to see if I can get a bush made, I've looked at the US for a "Spark Plug Non Fouler" but they don't seem available, unless any one over here knows where to get one from.
Might have to bring the Apexi forward a bit quicker at this rate.
Rob.
I was under the impression that SP had included some sort of system that made the sensor sit further back in the pipe in anycase? I explain it better earlier on in this thread..
FWIW .. I did some datalogging of the OBD-II O2 sensor outputs from a standard MK3 Roadster, and compared those with mine which has no cats at all.
Main difference is that the post main cat sensor's output only varies slowly with time - and only changes gradually from rich to lean with time. if you removed the main cat, it would definitely throw a CEL as this sensor would instead see the rapid changing in rich/lean as the ECU fine tunes the fuel/air mix at steady throttle.
I've tried various ways to bodge the sensor output to fool the ECU into thinking everything is fine (and so get rid of the CEL) but I've come to the conclusion the only thing to to is to build a small box of electronics that mimics the 'happy' type of output from the post-main cat sensor when the cat is present.
That way, even if you're running no cats at all, you shouldn't get a CEL as the ECU is fooled into thinking the O2 sensor output is good.
I've done the basic paper design of such a post-main cat O2 sensor circuit - for budding amateur Electronics bods - a classic NE555 timer, square wave output, but on/off cycle time of 80-100 seconds, swtiching between between 0v and 0.9v is what you want - but I need to find time to build, test and then install it into my Roadster.
Does anyone have a detailed pin-out of the 2003 ECU that I could use to potentially test this out with ...?
Clever stuff indeed matey. Hope you get it to work okay. Someone is bound to have the info.
This is the reasoning behind the code, Matt drew the picture, I done the writing!!
Firstly Matt mentioned this, this is his diagram and my writing trying to explain it s:oops: :oops: s:oops: . Apparently when they developed the SP exhaust - the O2 sensor there kept throwing a code - which one I don't know - yes I should of asked. So in order for this not to throw a code they put the sensor a little further back from the airflow in what they called an antifouling. Therefore, the O2 sensor is not reading the amount of air that it would normally and Matt believes that this is the reason why that it is **reading** that it is running lean when in fact it isn't due to the sensor is set back and not picking up the full air flow - does that make sense? Here's the diagram..
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/Turdbabe/o2diagram.jpg)
All workshop manuals should be like that! s:) :) s:)
That's pretty much the way Matt explained it to me as well Liz. I'm not 100% certain that the SP pipe is to blame in my case. It's a month since the TTET install and O2 sensor replacement, it's only started throwing up the codes in the last few days. Also, the code indicates that there is a problem with the circuit, not that that the parameters being sensed are out of limits. My (possibly incorrect) assumption is that if the O2 sensor was detecting too much or too little O2 in the exhaust gases it would give a different fault code e.g. the P0420 code that you were getting Liz.
Cheers Liz, love the diagram - know exactly what you mean. s:D :D s:D
I think a few people have used the anti-fouling trick, but it doesn't always 100% sort the problem. ISTR its basically a spacer (often used by motorbikes for spark plugs) to lift the sensor out of the gasflow in the exhaust. When it is protected from the gas - less will flow past it, so giving a more slowly varying rich/lean exhaust gas content.
This setup is good as you're still using the sensor to measure the exhaust gasses - I seem to remember Sean used this with his Hass setup, but found it would still throw a CEL from time to time.
Unfortuantly for me, being completely Cat free the only real option is to do some kind of 02 Sensor emulator.
I don't think the ECU uses this output for anything other than checking the emissions are OK (and to send you to a dealer for a new sensor/ main cat if not) so I don't expect to run into other problems by doing this.
I've got to sort the rear calliper on mine first, but I'll be looking to build and test the circuit in a few weeks time ...
Quote from: "BenF"Does anyone have a detailed pin-out of the 2003 ECU that I could use to potentially test this out with ...?
Ben - you have email (s)
Quote from: "Leeber"That's pretty much the way Matt explained it to me as well Liz. I'm not 100% certain that the SP pipe is to blame in my case. It's a month since the TTET install and O2 sensor replacement, it's only started throwing up the codes in the last few days. Also, the code indicates that there is a problem with the circuit, not that that the parameters being sensed are out of limits. My (possibly incorrect) assumption is that if the O2 sensor was detecting too much or too little O2 in the exhaust gases it would give a different fault code e.g. the P0420 code that you were getting Liz.
Thing is with mine to fix it I replaced the MAF, so it was that giving dodgy readings rather than the O2 sensor...as your car is practically brand new I would of thought your MAF would be ok.
Interesting points, I have spoke to Matt this morning and yes he said exactly the same as you Liz, the big difference as Ben as pointed out is we are both cat free, the TTE as a cat fitted so that's why you only need a small amount of repositioning of the third sensor.
I'm looking at having a bush made in the mean time, I know I've not had the code confirmed but I thought it best to get something moving - just in case.
The car itself is running fine, and boy does it rev, what will be the effect of running with the CEL, does it affect the learning of the ECU, how long can you run on it for?
Thanks
Rob
3rd o2 cel is just a warning for you, teh ecu does nothing about it.
only issue is if another cel pops up you won't see it.
other than youi can run it that way ad infintum
Quote from: "markiii"3rd o2 cel is just a warning for you, the ecu does nothing about it.
only issue is if another cel pops up you won't see it.
other than youi can run it that way ad infintum
Cheers Mark, I've just brought one of the code readers off Flee bay, once I return on Friday I can start the ball rolling.
It'll all be sorted when I fit the Apexi, but need to build the funds up first s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Rob
Quote from: "markiii"3rd o2 cel is just a warning for you, the ecu does nothing about it.
only issue is if another cel pops up you won't see it.
other than youi can run it that way ad infintum
s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: Yep, that's the way I've been running mine for a while. I did get an OBD-II reader and some software for my iPAQ so I could read the error codes and reset them every so often and check all was Ok.
I am still tinkering with the idea of setting something permanent up that allows me to monitor the output from the ECU in real time.
My OBD II arrived today and I have read the code as P0136 O2 Sensor malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor2) so it's the same as Lee's. The car is back at Mr T's on Thursday to have new O2 sensor's fitted and hopefull that will have sorted the problem.
Hmmm... that's quite a coincidence. Would you mind keeping us posted on how you get on with this? I'm not planning to get mine sorted for a couple of weeks, if replacing the sensors doesn't do the trick you'll know by then I guess. Good luck with it mate.
Will do, after speaking to Matt he is convinced that it is nothing to do with the de-cat pipe and I have been doing a lot of searching and it seams that the O2 sensors are a common problem so hopefull when thay are changed this will cure the problem.
Just a quick up-date.
My reader arrived today, put it on the car - guess what I've got a P0420 s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Reset the ECU plus I fitted my O2 extension bung over the weekend so lets see how long this lasts.
Going to Hyper Sport on Wednesday for a Dyno s:shock: :shock: s:shock: will report back with the figures.
Rob
The ecu logs the last few codes it might not be new.
Quote from: "philster_d"The ecu logs the last few codes it might not be new.
It listed 3 which is correct Phil, they were all 0420's, this will be the first time I've re-set it with the new extension bung fitted, so it will be interesting to see how long it lasts. Nice little reader by the way, I like the fact it clears the fault for you.
Rob
Rob, if its one of these readers
(http://www.gendandirect.co.uk/images/stock/gendan_eobd.jpg)
then its not 3 codes but one code repeated 3 times
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Rob, if its one of these readers
(http://www.gendandirect.co.uk/images/stock/gendan_eobd.jpg)
then its not 3 codes but one code repeated 3 times
No Stu it's not that one, it's made by Autonostics, when I cleared the code the CEL cleared as well, this one does a P-Scan which repeats 4 times - so I'm not sure.
It also came with a book full of all the codes you can expect and what they mean.
Rob
Hi Stu
This is the same as mine, although it says Merc it's the same.
m http://www.autonostics.com/product.php? ... t=1&page=1 (http://www.autonostics.com/product.php?productid=13&cat=1&page=1) m
Rob
Any news from Simon? Just wondering if the new O2 sensor's done the trick.
In the end I didn't go to Mr T to get new O2 sensors. Matt is working on something for me as we think it might be that before I go to Mr T. He thinks there is to much of the O2 sensor in the pipe and is working on a extension for it.
Quote from: "simonmr2"In the end I didn't go to Mr T to get new O2 sensors. Matt is working on something for me as we think it might be that before I go to Mr T. He thinks there is to much of the O2 sensor in the pipe and is working on a extension for it.
Hmmmm That sounds familiar, I take it you've got the SP downpipe then. I had an extension bung made for mine, still need to test it more before I can confirm it was big enough. Another word for the extension piece I've had made is a Sparkplug anti fouler s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Rob
I had the SP de-cat pipe fitted as part of the SP 240 kit last month.
Have either of you been using the Tesco's '99 fuel?
Quote from: "Tem"It seems to work. Try this one:
m http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZeQ2dcafe (http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZeQ2dcafe) m
It's these ones "OBD2 OBD II 2 CHECK ENGINE SCANNER ERROR CODE READER OB" £12.88
(http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/2300917893476464_1.jpg)
If that doesn't work either, search m http://ebay.co.uk/ (http://ebay.co.uk/) m for "obd2 reader"
Cool, link works for me, just got me one of these!
Quote from: "Chris"Quote from: "Tem"It seems to work. Try this one:
m http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZeQ2dcafe (http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZeQ2dcafe) m
It's these ones "OBD2 OBD II 2 CHECK ENGINE SCANNER ERROR CODE READER OB" £12.88
Cool, link works for me, just got me one of these!
Me too - ordered one a couple of days ago for my recurring CEL/MIL - now watching the postbox like the proverbial hawk s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Quote from: "Leeber"Have either of you been using the Tesco's '99 fuel?
Nah - Shell V power. Plus the fuel been in since late November s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Rob
Quote from: "Leeber"Have either of you been using the Tesco's '99 fuel?
FWIW, I've been running mine on it for the last 18 months.
Seems fine on it - the car was originally mapped for 98RON Optimax before V-Power was introduced, so running it on 99RON Tesco's fuel adds some additional safety margin in.
Only difference I've noticed - on Optimax on my old Mk2 Turbo, the enamel on the spark plugs would come out white. Usually a sign the plug has been too hot - but I think it was more the detergent/cleaning additives they put in.
Using Tesco's 99RON, the spark plugs have been coming out a more 'traditional' tan colour on the Roadster.
Ben
does anyone know if these OBD2 readers can be bought of the shelf anywhere!
They're available mail order :
m http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html (http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html) m
I got mine from them about 18 months back.
Quote from: "bossman23780"does anyone know if these OBD2 readers can be bought of the shelf anywhere!
Got mine off Flee bay a couple of weeks ago, £14 plus delivery.
Rob
Quote from: "BenF"They're available mail order :
m http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html (http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html) m
I got mine from them about 18 months back.
which one did you go for?
Quote from: "FGRob"Quote from: "bossman23780"does anyone know if these OBD2 readers can be bought of the shelf anywhere!
Got mine off Flee bay a couple of weeks ago, £14 plus delivery.
Rob
and which one did you go for? s:) :) s:)
was delivery quick?
my car has thrown a mil but it would be nice to have one for future reference!
Quote from: "bossman23780"Quote from: "BenF"They're available mail order :
m http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html (http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html) m
I got mine from them about 18 months back.
which one did you go for?
I went for this one which looks the same m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHE ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHECK-ENGINE-SCANNER-ERROR-CODE-READER-OB_W0QQitemZ230100990769QQihZ013QQcategoryZ30921QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) m
Quote from: "FGRob"Quote from: "bossman23780"Quote from: "BenF"They're available mail order :
m http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html (http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html) m
I got mine from them about 18 months back.
which one did you go for?
I went for this one which looks the same m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHE ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHECK-ENGINE-SCANNER-ERROR-CODE-READER-OB_W0QQitemZ230100990769QQihZ013QQcategoryZ30921QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) m
i saw that one! just couldnt understand why the postage and delivery time was so high?! it says the item is in the UK
Quote from: "bossman23780"Quote from: "FGRob"Quote from: "bossman23780"Quote from: "BenF"They're available mail order :
m http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html (http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html) m
I got mine from them about 18 months back.
which one did you go for?
I went for this one which looks the same m http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHE ... dZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD2-OBD-II-2-CHECK-ENGINE-SCANNER-ERROR-CODE-READER-OB_W0QQitemZ230100990769QQihZ013QQcategoryZ30921QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) m
i saw that one! just couldnt understand why the postage and delivery time was so high?! it says the item is in the UK
It's a good reader - it just comes from the US and not the UK s:wink: :wink: s:wink: I was thinking of reporting it to ebay, I did send an email to them complaining about the delivery time - it took about 5 working days
Might be selling it soon any way s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
sell it me now s:D :D s:D
no if you look at the item location it say mancester but the guys based in the us! seems strange?!
Quote from: "bossman23780"sell it me now s:D :D s:D
no if you look at the item location it say mancester but the guys based in the us! seems strange?!
Come over to Donny on the 18th you can use it all you want s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
kinda need in now! just reluctant to go to MR T! they are really rubbish near me! but for the time being a trip to them it is s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "bossman23780"kinda need in now! just reluctant to go to MR T! they are really rubbish near me! but for the time being a trip to them it is s:( :( s:(
Have you got the SP de-cat pipe fitted?
Quote from: "bossman23780"Quote from: "BenF"They're available mail order :
m http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html (http://www.gendan.co.uk/category_117.html) m
I got mine from them about 18 months back.
which one did you go for?
They don't do the one I got any more- it was a cable, box (scantool.net ELM323 chip ?) and then some more cables to get it hooked up to my iPAQ, plus finally OBD Gauge to act as a gauge and to check the error codes that may have been stored.
The box and cables was about £130 ISTR - but it looks like they've got other options now for much less than this.
Ben
probably more than what i wanted to spend at the moment! just wanted a quick fix! but will keep these in mind!
Quote from: "FGRob"Quote from: "bossman23780"kinda need in now! just reluctant to go to MR T! they are really rubbish near me! but for the time being a trip to them it is s:( :( s:(
Have you got the SP de-cat pipe fitted?
its on this car! yeah
Quote from: "bossman23780"its on this car! yeah
How many times have you re-set the ECU
since the mil came on, none! i wanted to see what was causing it, but not noticed anything wrong with th car tho!
Quote from: "bossman23780"since the mil came on, none! i wanted to see what was causing it, but not noticed anything wrong with th car though!
Did it come on when you were driving slowly by any chance
yeah! you psyhcic s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
well! i was at crusin speed on a bypass, came to the roundabout came off that slowly then noticed the light on!
but yeah slow because of the awlful weather!
Quote from: "bossman23780"yeah! you psyhcic s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
well! i was at crusin speed on a bypass, came to the roundabout came off that slowly then noticed the light on!
but yeah slow because of the awlful weather!
s:wink: :wink: s:wink: I get the same so it should be a code 0420 - basically your third sensor. You need a spacer fitting or if you have one already a bigger one.
When I first fitted my downpipe it would do about 40 miles then bingo it would come on - no affect on performance by the way, fitted an extension piece which stopped it for a lot longer but eventually it would return. Currently I'm having my extension extended even further s:oops: :oops: s:oops: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:D :D s:D to help the problem even further, but ultimately I've decided to remove the ECU and go for an Apexi Power FC - after a very long discussion with Chris at Hyper Sport.
Quote from: "FGRob"Quote from: "bossman23780"yeah! you psyhcic s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
well! i was at crusin speed on a bypass, came to the roundabout came off that slowly then noticed the light on!
but yeah slow because of the awlful weather!
s:wink: :wink: s:wink: I get the same so it should be a code 0420 - basically your third sensor. You need a spacer fitting or if you have one already a bigger one.
When I first fitted my downpipe it would do about 40 miles then bingo it would come on - no affect on performance by the way, fitted an extension piece which stopped it for a lot longer but eventually it would return. Currently I'm having my extension extended even further s:oops: :oops: s:oops: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:D :D s:D to help the problem even further, but ultimately I've decided to remove the ECU and go for an Apexi Power FC - after a very long discussion with Chris at Hyper Sport.
kool s8) 8) s8)
so aslong as it is that s:? :? s:? i should be fine resetting and running the car as norm til i get it fixed!
Have you spoke to Matt about it?
yep he said reset but of course he like to know what the code is! ideally!
Quote from: "bossman23780"yep he said reset but of course he like to know what the code is! ideally!
If you can get over to Stoke on the A50 we can always meet up and do a quick reading and re-set.
Tomorrow night that is.
you have PM
Quote from: "bossman23780"you have PM
OK so do you
Well, well well. Just got the car back from Mr T's who very kindly did my clutch for me. I also wanted them to investigate the CEL, I told them about the code etc, so they plugged in their reader to see what sort of output the O2 sensor was giving. The result? Zilch, nada nothing. There was absolutely no signal coming from the sensor at all. They actually commented that even a faulty sensor usually gives some sort of output. I'm booked back in for next week so they can sort it out, along with a sump leak and 2 misty tail-light units. I was a bit surprised about the sump-leak, obviously it was removed and refitted during the TTE installation. I haven't had to top the oil up yet, but from what I could see it was definitely leaking. Oh, and the intercooler was knocking on the bodywork so they had to adjust that slightly as well.
I think it might be an idea to start a sticky'd thread for TTET owners to document any related issues.
Bought one ages ago different make paid about 20 something off fleabay. Only ever used the once on Moreno's 2 a while back worked fine no probs, back in its box since then. To be frank hope I never have to use it on mine but its there if needed and I can vouch for them being so useful.
normanh s8) 8) s8)
Well just got my reader today!
Not had a problem with the car since changing the battery, so no more MIL s:D :D s:D
... lets hope i never have to put it to use though!
Was just in halfords and noticed they had a OBD2 reader, just the one type and it was £130! s:o :o s:o
ebay odb readers go for £10-£20
Quote from: "kanujunkie"ebay odb readers go for £10-£20
Exactly!
Got to say i didnt really study the halfords one, so it maybe of a higher spec i.e. connects to youre PC, etc. But from the picture on the box, well it looked very basic!
i also got a cel today s:( :( s:( checked the code and it turned out to be p0136 which happens to be the sensor fitted in to the sp down pipe so i have just turned the light out and will see how long it is before it returns , i was also going slowly round a roundabout when it came on this seems to be a common fault especialy on the sp decat pipe hopefully we will find a solution to this problem s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "firepower"i also got a cel today s:( :( s:( checked the code and it turned out to be p0136 which happens to be the sensor fitted in to the sp down pipe so i have just turned the light out and will see how long it is before it returns , i was also going slowly round a roundabout when it came on this seems to be a common fault especialy on the sp decat pipe hopefully we will find a solution to this problem s:) :) s:)
I changed my MAF to get rid of it....it will return after 3 trips.