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The Workshop => Audio / Security / Electrical => Topic started by: broudie on May 14, 2007, 23:14

Title: New Scion Head Units (integrated IPOD, DVD, NAV!)
Post by: broudie on May 14, 2007, 23:14
Gentlemen,

Your thoughts on the following new Scion Head Units on the new XB and XD?

QuoteA choice from three new head units will be available on all 2008 Scions. All sound systems feature six speakers and standard iPod connectivity. The base head unit has 10 changeable backlit colors, MP3, WMA, and AAC CD compatibility, and Scion's SSP equalizer presets. The Premium head unit features a small LCD that can display pictures and movies downloaded from Pioneer's website in addition to the features on the base unit. A navigation system will also be avaliable. The AVN system can play DVD movies in addition to GPS functionality and the features of the base system, aside from the backlit color choices. The xD is the first mainstream subcompact in the U.S. to be available with a built-in, OEM navigation system.

stock head unit
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/jeromeajao/newscionhu.gif)

premium head unit
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/jeromeajao/newscionhupremium.gif)

stereo with nav unit
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k41/jeromeajao/newscionhunav.gif)
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Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2007, 00:01
They might no work very well in the EU if they are designed for the US.  Frequencies and different.  Don't know if GPS systems are different for Europe.  It would have to have the proper maps, of course.  Why buy a Scion head unit, anyway?  You have your choice of fine audio systems as long as you buy a wiring adapter.  Are there any Scions in Europe at all?  Maybe.  There were not at one point, that much I know.  One of "ours", the tC, was based on the Toyota Avensis sold there.
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Post by: rtbiscuit on May 15, 2007, 00:04
never heard of scion
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Post by: rtbiscuit on May 15, 2007, 00:04
never heard of scion
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Post by: broudie on May 15, 2007, 00:06
Quote from: "Beanie"They might no work very well in the EU if they are designed for the US.  Frequencies and different.  Don't know if GPS systems are different for Europe.  It would have to have the proper maps, of course.  Why buy a Scion head unit, anyway?  You have your choice of fine audio systems as long as you buy a wiring adapter.  Are there any Scions in Europe at all?  Maybe.  There were not at one point, that much I know.  One of "ours", the tC, was based on the Toyota Avensis sold there.
D'oh!   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  Better as a topic on SC then..

I like the Avensis   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  I always wished that they would send it Stateside.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2007, 00:30
Scion is Toyota's attempt at grabbing the younger sector of buyers.  They are trying to create a feeder program thinking people will go from Scion then on to buying either Toyota or Lexus.  

These headunits are plug and play with our head units for those who want a better sounding system, multiple disks, and now navigation.
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Post by: broudie on May 15, 2007, 00:33
Quote from: "jbreese00"Scion is Toyota's attempt at grabbing the younger sector of buyers.  They are trying to create a feeder program thinking people will go from Scion then on to buying either Toyota or Lexus.  

These headunits are plug and play with our head units for those who want a better sounding system, multiple disks, and now navigation.
Whenever I think of scion head unit upgrades, I think of how fighter planes like the F-15 Eagle get upgrades to their "avionics" to make them more modern. Same chassis, different electronics.

Nav/iPod plug-and-play head units for the Spyder will keep our cars "modern" for a long time. Yay Scion!

Now if someone can figure out how to add the widget to control the ABS electronics for stability control..

edit: well, maybe not stability control..
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Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2007, 00:36
Quote from: "Beanie"Don't know if GPS systems are different for Europe.  It would have to have the proper maps, of course.

The worldwide GPS system that is active today was developed by and continues to be maintained by the US DoD.  There should be no part of the world where it operates differently, as all of the satellites follow the same design/build requirements.  In regards to WAAS augmentation, I do not believe that it extends much beyond the americas (south america may not have full coverage).  I believe with WAAS, GPS is accurate to one meter or so, whereas its accuracy is around five meters alone.  WAAS also requires ground stations, so that may be the limiting factor of its range.  If its not already in service, EGNOS will allow most, if not all, of Europe a one meter resolution as well.  I believe you will need a GPS receiver that is EGNOS compatible, just as you need a WAAS one for the US system.  I have used my GPS in Europe, Africa, South America and Eastern Asia with no problems.
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Post by: broudie on May 15, 2007, 00:49
Scion sells what is the equivalent of your B-segment cars.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 15, 2007, 02:27
Quote from: "AngryCorgi"
Quote from: "Beanie"Don't know if GPS systems are different for Europe.  It would have to have the proper maps, of course.

The worldwide GPS system that is active today was developed by and continues to be maintained by the US DoD.  There should be no part of the world where it operates differently, as all of the satellites follow the same design/build requirements.  In regards to WAAS augmentation, I do not believe that it extends much beyond the americas (south america may not have full coverage).  I believe with WAAS, GPS is accurate to one meter or so, whereas its accuracy is around five meters alone.  WAAS also requires ground stations, so that may be the limiting factor of its range.  If its not already in service, EGNOS will allow most, if not all, of Europe a one meter resolution as well.  I believe you will need a GPS receiver that is EGNOS compatible, just as you need a WAAS one for the US system.  I have used my GPS in Europe, Africa, South America and Eastern Asia with no problems.

That's pretty much what I thought, although I could not remember the acronym for the EU system.  At work, I'm involved in an effort known as CNS/ATM (Communication Navigation Surveillance/Air Traffic Management).    I'm just helping upgrade some aircraft simulators.  Someday someone may actually design something to be interoperable from the beginning.  What a concept!
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Post by: Tem on May 15, 2007, 05:33
Quote from: "Beanie"That's pretty much what I thought, although I could not remember the acronym for the EU system.

There are plans to get EU out of the GPS system. You can read more about it here:
 m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_positioning_system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_positioning_system) m