Hi, all once again
Im not having too much luck. s:( :( s:(
After the South East Jap Meet on the 24 - 2 - 08 I checked my oil level, and Oh my god it had dropped. Almost without warning...
Went to Toyota who said it was nothing, to just top it up, and to keep an eye on it..
Spoke to the mechanic, who said all the bumph on oval boring was Bollocks... and people on the internet were just shit stering. s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Three weeks later and it seemed to be constantly dropping..
Back to Toyota, Who said they would do a 1000 mile test, they said that It shouldn't use more than ONE litre, if it uses more its bad news..
625 read it 625 miles later and its almost off the dip stick.....
Back to Toyota, 1.6 litres of oil later... s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
This time they tell me to take it easy, not to take it above 4000revs and bring it back when it was reading LOW. For a second reading.
So I take it easy 3000revs with a max speed 65mph, now that's restraint.
Took it in today at 889miles... and its reading 1.5 litres of oil... s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
TOYOTA of Colchester have fobbed me off, NOT OUR PROBLEM your cars over 7 years old.... PHONE HQ....
(My cars April-2000 Mod)
But my cars only done 60,000 miles... and I noticed it first at 58,000
I phoned Toyota's Customer Service HQ and they are not interested either... Its Toyotas policy, blar blar blar.... s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
I suppose I just want people to know this is a reality, Toyota wont help if its outside the 7year "good will" warranty, the reason why it wasn't recalled is because its not a safety issue! Oh and Toyota are well aware of the problem..
My issues are that everybody that owns one wasn't made aware of this minor hic-up... with a letter from Toyota.
All models over 7 years should be scrapped, NEVER buy a second hand one, especially if its over 7 years old, thats my advice.
What I would like to know is how much longer it will run for before the inevitable...
Toyota have said it will cost, £2617.54 to fix, and that's with the 10% already knocked off.... s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
What other options do I have? and are they any cheaper?
thanks
Hard luck Shane.
Well your only options (assuming you are up to it) is a repair or replacement.
Use the Internet, Search here (including affiliates) and you should be able to come up with...
1. Non - franchise repair
2. Replacement 1ZZ - used from a scrapped car
3. Replacement 2ZZ or V6 (Rogue or Woodsport)
Sounds like time to trade it into a dealer for something else which suits your fancy.
Quote from: "sandstrain"Sounds like time to trade it into a dealer for something else which suits your fancy.
And shaft someone else with the problem? Nice.
Sorry to hear about your troubles Shane, really is bad luck. FWIW I really wouldn't be driving it unless you absolutely have to, and even then I'd be topping up the oil before every trip. If worst comes to the worst and the engine starves itself of oil, all hell could break loose when everything starts seizing up and that won't be very good if it puts you into oncoming traffic...! s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
It's very possible to get a 2nd hand recon 1ZZ in for under £1500. Give Rich (rtbiscuit) a shout over PM, he's had his done recently for about that and he's pretty local. See where he got his done, be a good place to start if going 2ZZ/V6 doesn't appeal.
Quote from: "shaneh"All models over 7 years should be scrapped, NEVER buy a second hand one, especially if its over 7 years old, thats my advice.
That's pretty harsh - considering the number of cars over 7 years old that are still running just fine.. Given the numbers of people we get with this problem here I can't believe that even 10% of all the MR-2's produced have suffered the problem so why would Toyota do anything to damage their image over it?
The impact of a handful of low-production cars going pop is far less to them than the impact of a formal recall and notification in the newspapers and motoring press would be.
Anyway.. given the tone of your post I'd also suggest looking for a different car, as I doubt you'll ever love the '2 again even if it's fixed, by the sound of it. Perhaps a Boxster, S2000 or MX-5 - all reliable, all more expensive - of course - but more reliable.
As for your options - £2600 would almost certainly get you a 2ZZ swap, nice power hike and a much better car once done - not to mention an engine with no known issues other than lift bolts breaking on rare occasions.
Or as Dan says, £1500 would get you a s/h 1ZZ swapped in - even less if you can do the labour yourself - as long as you find a good one for around the £800-1000 mark.
Never buy a second hand one? How many pre reg 06 cars with delivery mileage do you think are still about?
Im really sorry for you Shane, truly i am, but it really is a silly thing to say.
Good luck.
QuoteAnd shaft someone else with the problem? Nice.
Ekona, we clearly grew up at different times with different experiences of life.
It's the dealer who gets shafted because they would have to foot the bill for any repair / replacement (either via sale of goods act or sold warranty).
The alternative is to spend a few grand on a repair, not recover the cost in the resale value but be pleased that the next buyer gets a real bargain! Or, worse still, hang onto the car because we don't want to offend the next prospective buyer. Let buyer beware is the law. At least if you buy from a dealer then they have to sell you goods which are 'fit for purpose'.
Im not saying every car is going to go pop...
What im saying is that even if you bought a second-hand car which has been in storage for 7 years and one day and only has 5 miles on the clock Toyota wouldn't be interested in helping you if it developed an engine problem.... and that's exactly what I was told. Even though they know that this problem exists in a predetermined number of their production cars.
With this in mind, Knowing that there is a possibility, that the car you were about to buy has an inherited problem which could show its ugly head at ANY time and without warning, would you buy it?
This opens up the question (now that 2000 and 2001 MR2 Roadsters outdate the "Good Will" warranty) that people will first notice that the engine is drinking oil, (know that Toyota are arseholes, and won't entertain helping) and will sell there cars privately, to unsuspecting members of the public...
Pick any make of car... add 10 years or even 15 and that's any make of car, what would the mileage be 100 - 120 or more thousand miles and im sure it world be running fine
But Oh no not the Toyota MR2 Roadster 58,000 miles and you could have probs.
What you don't know is how my call was handled... umh, and yesses in the right places, and the sorry we cant help, my hand are tied, its Toyotas policy whilst eating his lunch.. he had a totally: im not interested attitude..
Ive owned Toyota's for almost 18 years, every single day, fully serviced, and all maintenance carried out by Toyota, ive owned all the MR2 range, import and Uk models with others, ive had all the work carried out by the reputable Toyota,
Its Ok when they take your money... All smiles and thank you's
Even the Colchester's attitude changed when I picked up my car,
and this is how I get treated when I have a problem..
Im not happy. FULL STOP s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
I can understand that you're not happy. Anyone would be hacked off in the same situation.
What to do now then?
Try another dealer maybe, to see if you could get a more positive approach.
Have a look at getting it repaired. Secondhand 1zzs are pretty easy to source.
Consider an engine swap, as mentioned above. ( Woodsport, who I'd recommend, are booked for a while , I understand)
Try a trade in, yes maybe unethical, but it is an option that you have.
Flog it as it is, basically with a duff engine, worth £2500 or so probably.
Apologies if there is anything I haven't listed as an option, yes, its a crummy hand to have to play, but it might be an idea to start making enquiries to see which one is going to work for you.
Quote from: "shaneh"I'm not happy. FULL STOP s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
I wouldn't either if I was in your shoes, but having said that, most cars have an achilles heel (especially at 8 years of age), and manufacturers won't repair them FOC for the life of the car. An element of Buyer Beware I'm afraid. I guess you didn't buy it from Toyota, so maybe that's another lesson learned.
Have you tried the "i've been a customer for 18 years" bit and shown them how much you've spent in that time. They
might just change their mind if you tell them they are about to lose a loyal customer.
Shane, that's a really emotive post.
Ring Toyota HQ, get the NAME of the customer services director, and WRITE to him / her stating the situationl; in particular, the bit about having been a Toyota customer for 18 years, the attitude of the Colchester dealership, the known problem, the 'promises' made about the reliability of the car when you bought it etc etc (When I bought mine, I queried the reliability of the SMT gearbox, the reply was 'it's a Toyota') their reputation is built on this, so dent it!!
Have you tried the "i've been a customer for 18 years" bit and shown them how much you've spent in that time. They might just change their mind if you tell them they are about to lose a loyal customer.
tried that... Our hands are tied... Thats all I got. s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
toyota quoted £2617.54 for the short block and fitting (15hrs)
the 2zzge upgrade looks good
22,000 fully recon engine (New?) Brand new Gearbox fully fitted and warranted for £3049.99
But where do I get that from?
Quote from: "roger"3. Replacement 2ZZ or V6 (Rogue or Woodsport)
Roger already told you s;) ;) s;)
Rogue Motorsport (http://www.roguemotorsport.co.uk/static/home.aspx) or Woodsport (http://www.woodsport.org/)
Technically any garage could do it given the swap kit, but I'd only trust a specialist like them not to bu**er it up..
reconned 1ZZ on Ebay for £1050 with a 6 month guarantee too.
I agree for you to be upset, mine had the same issue, Toyota fixed mine for free, so i can see your upset and your issue.
Steve Settle is the director of customer relations - Toyota (GB) plc, Great Burgh, Burgh Heath, Epsom, Surrey, KT18 5LX
Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "roger"3. Replacement 2ZZ or V6 (Rogue or Woodsport)
Roger already told you s;) ;) s;)
Rogue Motorsport (http://www.roguemotorsport.co.uk/static/home.aspx) or Woodsport (http://www.woodsport.org/)
I gathered that lol s:D :D s:D
Thats where I got the prices from (rogue motorsport)
I was talking about the Where am I going to get the £3,000 odd
Quote from: "shaneh"Quote from: "aaronjb"Quote from: "roger"3. Replacement 2ZZ or V6 (Rogue or Woodsport)
Roger already told you s;) ;) s;)
Rogue Motorsport (http://www.roguemotorsport.co.uk/static/home.aspx) or Woodsport (http://www.woodsport.org/)
I gathered that lol s:D :D s:D
Thats where I got the prices from (rogue motorsport)
I was talking about the Where am I going to get the £3,000 odd
Woodsport tend to be cheaper than Rogue like for like (from what I've discussed with Nige etc in the past)
Quote from: "sandstrain"QuoteAnd shaft someone else with the problem? Nice.
Ekona, we clearly grew up at different times with different experiences of life.
I would guess so if you're over the age of 28, but I'm not sure what that's got to do with anything.
Quote from: "sandstrain"It's the dealer who gets shafted because they would have to foot the bill for any repair / replacement (either via sale of goods act or sold warranty).
The alternative is to spend a few grand on a repair, not recover the cost in the resale value but be pleased that the next buyer gets a real bargain! Or, worse still, hang onto the car because we don't want to offend the next prospective buyer. Let buyer beware is the law. At least if you buy from a dealer then they have to sell you goods which are 'fit for purpose'.
Yup, dealer has to pay if it's not of reasonable quality, but then do you really want someone else to go through all the emotions that Shane's going through now? What if it was some young girl who bought the car? Maybe she'd been saving ages and the MR2 had only just fallen into her price range, and she was so excited about getting it? Would you feel happy telling her that you told someone else just to flog the car to a dealer and let them worry about it, 'cos I sure as hell wouldn't. Still, whatever your conscience can carry I guess.
Maybe that's what you meant by your opening line. Maybe younger people do have more consideration for a fellow human being than the previous generation these days.*
*
Note: I'm obviously overstating things here, before I get battered by Roger s;) ;) s;)
Ok, once again, I give in. From now on I'll believe everything the 28 y/o salesperson and under tells me about the car and won't believe for one minuite that they would be prepared to shaft me. I'm in the market for a Z3 and need to hone my technique s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
I really can't see what point you're trying to make here, especially with regards to age. I've meet dodgy people aged 18-80, age is irrelevant. My point is that you're encouraging someone to dump a problem car without any effort to try and rectify the problem, and be damned the next person to pick it up who may just pop on this site and ask if anyone knows what the problem is. That shows a complete lack of morals to me.
Ekona, you, like me, are entitled to an opinion, which I respect.
My opinion is that one has to be naieve to think that the people who sell cars, and the people we buy cars from are acting in our best interest. Why should I give money away so that the next buyer can make a profit? What, referring to your earlier post, if I'm a young bloke and not a young girl? Are you seriously suggesting that you would repair the oval bore problem before you sold me the car? Or are you saying that you would reduce the price accordingly? I'd just px it into a dealer and then its their problem. Yes, I guess your right about me. (If you see mine for sale on here I promise it's the dogs s:lol: :lol: s:lol: )
Right, I see what you're getting at now.
I think most of this boils down to how you view humanity as a whole, either most are out to get you or most are out to help you. I'm guessing I see it as the latter as I would guess that there are far more honest car traders out there than dishonest ones, as the dishonest ones don't last very long these days. My point was more that I wouldn't put a car dealer in the position of thinking about trying to dupe someone, especially if they were a smaller one. Larger companies/franchises will be able to cope better with the cost of fixing a duff engine that they knew nothing about better than a family run business.
It's the equivalent of crashing your car, doing a quick fix bodge job and then selling it. Yes, caveat emptor applies, but it's horrible to be on the receiving end of it. Just because there's a car dealer in the middle doesn't mean that they shouldn't be shown some level of respect.
Sorry Mods for the drift, feel free to split this thread to somewhere else if you like. s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Shane, I understand your situation - thought I'd chip in here as I've had similar experiences of Mr T's lack of sympathy...
2 years ago, my shiny, new-to-me, FTSH 2000/X reg with 49K on the clock went bang. Big puff of smoke and everything.
I'd heard a few had been fixed under an 'extended goodwill' thing at about that age so I rang Mr T (UK) to find out, they were non-committal, and told me they could only consider this if I had it 'looked at' by a dealer.
Off car goes to my local dealer for an 'inspection'. "Doesn't need much inspecting," I said, "it's definitely blown up!"
Next day, get a 'phone call: "Yes sir, your engine has definitely blown up."
They'd obviously spotted the fag packet-sized hole in the engine with a con rod stuck out of it then. They continue, "But the service interval in the handbook [euro import] is 9000 miles so as it's been done every 10K it obviously hasn't been looked after and we're not going to do anything."
I was speechless. And they wouldn't budge, even after I pointed out that the identical UK cars had a 10K service interval. And they were quite rude. And gave me a quote for ~£7K for fixing it, which would have made me laugh if I was wasn't quite so p***ed off.
And the best bit, their 90 quid bill for 'diagnostic services'. s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
But car got fixed in the end (mainly thanks to this place stopping me from panicking, and pointing me in the direction of cheap parts!), and it's been fine now for 30K miles (touch wood s:wink: :wink: s:wink: - that's jinxed the corfu trip then!)
All the best
/Mike
Quote from: "Ekona"*Note: I'm obviously overstating things here, before I get battered by Roger s;) ;) s;)
Batter, batter, batter. Having done that, I don't think this can be put down to age, just the ethics of individuals s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Well its almost been a month since Toyota said that my MR2 Roadster was FUBAR...
Denial has gone and regret is setting in....
But there is a doubt still sitting in the back of my mind !
I have been speeking to some friends, and there are a few questions unanswered?
1) I am still doing around 1500miles a month and she's still going strong and I'm STILL pushing her to the limits (well if its going to go!) still putting oil in at a weekly rate though.... (ive decided that if I have to, ill get another new engine, maybe a 2ZZ...) the probably being that she still pulls as good as ever (if not a BIT better) like a two stroke !!! LOL s:D :D s:D
1.5) When Pushing real hard in the corners at max revs at about 80 -90mph I get the faint smell of oil in the drivers compartment evry now and again...
2) She is using a lot of oil obviously - and she isnt and I say again ISNT smoking AT-ALL either White or Blue, on startup - warm or hot? like you would expect from a two stroke..
3) the inside of the exhaust has dry soot, not wet oil deposits as I would expect? (Like my two stroke bike was)
4) No oil spots under the car on the floor afer storage for a few days?
Any Pointers?
Thanks
Shane
It's burning the oil, you won't see any smoke - the car has a CAT.
You're more likely to see oil smoke when it's dark and you're being followed by another car with their headlights on. But I've noticed when following Ste's car that you don't get to see a lot of smoke but you can definitely smell oil burning when he hoofs it. Also something to do with the read aerodynamics keeps smoke close to the road surface and therefore not easily seen from the drivers seat.
If you're not leaking it, then you're definitely burning it and i for one wouldn't be seen topping up an engine every week because i'm burrying my head in the sand and ignoring an engine getting ready to break.
Oil deposits in the exhaust? Well your catalyst is probably fubar'd now for certain pumping that amount of crap through it. What kind of oil are you using? Some burns off and some gets pumped through (like the two stroke bikes). Two stroke oil is a bit different, it's designed not to burn off completely as it's job is to lubricate through the comustion chamber. Four stroke oil is supposed to stay out of the combustion chamber (ok apart from a minute film).
Get it fixed!
.....consider other road users - especially in your profession, you must of dealt with enough rtc's - if you engine goes bang whilst you are.....
Quotepushing real hard in the corners at max revs at about 80 -90mph
then its not only you in danger of being injured s:evil: :evil: s:evil: . You have had advice that you need to get it sorted, don't come on here and brag about how you are driving with a potentially dangerous car.
I'm def NOT burrying my head in the sand,
its going to go at some stage.... I know that ?
This is my only car.... I have to get to work, What am I supposed to do?
When it goes it goes... I see that as long as i keep topping the oil up she will keep on running....
It will need a new engine if it blows, the same as it does now!
Its not if it can do more dammage than its already doing........
and its not if I can replace the dammaged part and everything will be OK..
Its the whole engine now.... and the whole engine if it blows....
If it's just the bores that are oval Shane, then it might be possible to save the engine you have. They don't come available too often, and for the sake of new rings, new sleaves / honing or boring and maybe pistons, a set of gaskets and oil would it not be worth trying to fix it?
When it goes bang there'll be so much more to deal with, maybe even bodywork and chassis if it throws you off the road at an inopportune time?
Just seems foolish imho to keep on doing what you're doing. If you can afford to fix it, fix it - i'm certain you will enjoy the car so much more and know you're going to get to where you're going when it's in full working order.
At the risk of going against the common opinion here ...
If its using oil, its using oil, this doesn't mean its going to pop any minute! My reconditioned engine has always burned oil at a rate of about 1 litre every 700 miles for the last 25k, just make sure you keep it topped up.
If/When it gets serious you're going to see the smoke out the back when pulling off, and there's a good chance you'll develop some nasty engine noises to alert you too. The real danger of burning a lot of oil (besides actually running out) is damaging the pre-cats. If you have pre-cats still, get them whipped out asap as if they crumble they CAN take your engine out in a matter of miles. Have someone you know follow you and report on if they see any smoke too.
You're also going to be shortening the life of your main cat considerably and at £1200 a go, its certainly a significant issue that shoudn't be ignored.
Quote from: "shaneh"When Pushing real hard in the corners at max revs at about 80 -90mph I get the faint smell of oil in the drivers compartment evry now and again...
glad you didn't have me as a passenger as you would have smelt something else. s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Well, yes it has been proved you can do quite a few miles burning quite a bit of oil without the engine going bang.
But if you come on here saying you have to top it up every week and are won dering where it's all going, you're going to get some opinions and suggestions what to do about it. If you don't want opinions or don't want advice, then i wouldn't post up about the engine possibly being fubar'd.
It's up to you really and depends on the circumstances...
How much oil do you have to put in every week?
Are you bothered about relacing the catalyst?
Are you bothered that one day you won't get to work?
Are you bothered that using full revs in a corner, the engine either siezes or goes clunky in a big way, you lose the back end and fly under the wheels of a wagon coming the other way (worst case scenrio - well you could have an aeroplane crashing on top of you at the same time, but that's unlikely s:wink: :wink: s:wink: )
So if it's bothering you enough to post up here asking those questions then to me you are trying to decide if you want to do something about it because it is bothering you enough to ask.
Oh, and 1 litre every 700 miles is anacceptable to me - as i once stated to VW UK when they claimed that was normal and acceptable. If you're using that much oil, you've got a problem.
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Oh, and 1 litre every 700 miles is anacceptable to me - as i once stated to VW UK when they claimed that was normal and acceptable. If you're using that much oil, you've got a problem.
No doubt, but depending on which toyota mechanic you talk to that's borderline acceptable for this particular engine. I know people that use no oil at all, despite the engine being designed to actually use a little.
The point shaneh raised earlier was that four figure lumps of cash aren't pocket money that you spend 'just in case' there's something catastrophically wrong. I certainly ain't going to spend another £2k on another engine because I have to top the oil up every few
My particular engine does use a lot of oil, but its consistently used the same amount of oil/mile for 25k miles. If there's something wrong, its clearly not getting any worse. My engine doesn't sound broken, and there's no smoke visible from the back even when the engine is pulling at 7000 rpm in top gear (on a German Autobahn I hasten to add). Those in the know will point out that I do have a little puff of blue smoke when lifting after running on full boost, but that's from my turbo and doesn't count. s:) :) s:)
My point is oil consumption isn't a sign your engine is going to blow up mid corner and kill you and everyone around you, I would put money on you being more likely to have a tyre blowout mid corner rather than an engine failure. Its simply a sign that more oil than should be is finding its way into the combustion chamber. There are many reasons for this that don't require a new short block. With these engines I wouldn't worry until the consupmtion is much higher or you see the smoke being burned or the engine starts sounding like a diesel engine.
If I'm not mistaken, quite a few members have a high oil consumption and simply keep their oil topped up with no other problems.
To help you decide, get a cylinder compression test done, and get someone to follow you and check your tail pipe for smoke.
Also, what grade oil are you using?
Jason
Driving around and pushing hard on an engine that has obviously seen better days is about sensible as always cutting the red wire on a bomb: You're probably going to be fine, but if it goes it's going to take other people with you.
Shane, I've met you in person and you're a decent guy, but Liz has got it spot-on in her post. You see every day what happens when cars go wrong at speed, and yet you're still driving hard? That's total lunacy, and borderline idiocy. I understand it's your only car, but then there are such things as hire cars, or mates who give lifts, or public transport to a certain point etc. My point is that there are ways and means to get around, you just need to be a bit flexible. The work needed on your car should take a week max I reckon, so worst comes to the worst take a week's holiday and sit at home.
Its your only car, you cant do without it so you are going to drive it until the engine goes. At which point you have no car, put it in the garage now, you have no car.
Am i missing something here?
Also, say it does go bang and takes you off the road, apart from the fact you may injure yourself and others, you are knowingly driving (and pushing hard, by your own admittance.) a car which you know has a serious problem therefore if your insurers were to discover this i doubt very much they would pay out.
I'm with Liz and Dan on this, your being irresponsible.
I say leave him to it - Darwinian selection should deal with him fairly soon - problem sorted and avoids further polution of the gene pool s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
That last comment is a little harsh, I think, for somebody who doesnt even know me...
If you knew the things ive done in my life, im pretty lucky to be here, not just in one case but in hundreds.. with little or less than one per-cent case of survival and walking out alive...
and im still here...
I was hoping somebody would say that it was another prob overlooked on my car engine? as all the points I pointed out.
Yes its my only car, no I cant afford a replacement or a fix for a couple of months or so, when it WILL get fixed when I have the money... I cant afford a weeks holiday, I work with one other at short notice, public transport doesnt start at the times I do, or go the distance (1500 miles a month ish) I am responsible in keeping the engine topped up with oil, as im on the understanding that serious probs happen when people let it run dry, and that it will use more and MORE oil till its a ONE to ONE mix when it will run out mid jurney, and this is what Toyota said....
My driving is at a level that Im happy with, I wouldnt do anything that I thought unsafe to me or others....
Ive had engines blow up on me before... Two turbos, a gearbox, a radiator, cranc shaft,and three blowouts all rear and one at high speed on a tight corner (outside wheel) Ive written off a MR2 MkII on the Track (not my fault) apart from the Mr2 which was on a track all the vehicles were pulled up at the side of the road with no other incidents...
Darwinian selection happens to all walks of life and species... no matter what we do... Every day we make life changing decisions which could end in death because the wrong path was chosen...
Even you SteveJ ! reguardless of what we drive.
Well excellent news that you're going to get it fixed in a couple of months, you'll have to update us with what happens then.
Wow! You have had a less than one percent chance of survival hundreds of times? The odds on you still being here must be astronomical, drive how you like, your indestructable!
Quote from: "shaneh"My driving is at a level that I'm happy with, I wouldnt do anything that I thought unsafe to me or others....
"When Pushing real hard in the corners at max revs at about 80 -90mph .. "
I take it you were referring to a track day then Shane? Or do you mean a slight bend on a dual carriageway? If not, you cannot expect to post that and not get flamed as it insinuates driving beyond safe, let alone legal, limits.
Sorry to hear you've had trouble with your car, I hope you can get it sorted soon.
BTW - "If you knew the things ive done in my life" - you're not that Sandy McCrab fella are you?
"Wow! You have had a less than one percent chance of survival hundreds of times? The odds on you still being here must be astronomical"
Yes you would probably be right.. s:D :D s:D
Indestructable? Invincible thats what my wife would say "I thought I was"
But I think Plane Lucky.... Wrong place right time maybe.. s:D :D s:D
Ive been shot at - on too many times to count - All Missed, RPG'd - Missed , Artillary bombardment - Missed- Sniped at - Missed / Just, Missed a Road side bombed by miniutes... and the list goes on
So Again Yes, you could be right..
All this on a plane?
Yes that was on a track...
Im not totaly stupid, as I said I wouldnt do anything that I thought would harm myself or others...
And just for the record I dont hit rabbits or birds, on my travels.
Sandy McCrab fella was a poof whan i last heard his name mentioned. LOL
Oh I forgot to mention "Worked with the Americans" that was far, FAR wrose than all the above........ s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "shaneh"When Pushing real hard in the corners at max revs at about 80 -90mph I get the faint smell of oil in the drivers compartment evry now and again...
Quote from: "shaneh"Yes that was on a track...
I am confused now - you have taken it on a track despite having problems with the engine then.
s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Good luck getting it fixed Shane.
It'll make it all the more enjoyable for you.
Quote from: "Liz"Quote from: "shaneh"When Pushing real hard in the corners at max revs at about 80 -90mph I get the faint smell of oil in the drivers compartment evry now and again...
Quote from: "shaneh"Yes that was on a track...
I am confused now - you have taken it on a track despite having problems with the engine then.
not sure whether that stupid or idiotic? putting an engine on track stresses it to the max, taking a broken engine on track could spoil everyone elses day and possibly injure someone when the last of your oil gets dumped on the track, please have a bit of savvy
Shane, i think your only worry is kryptonite, steer clear of that and you will be fine. s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Oh, and watch your cape in the wind when the hoods down.
Hi liz,
Yes its been tracked, I dont think without past knowledge of the engines history you would know that there was a problem with the engine, as I said i think its running better, which was why ive posted the questions I did?
Toyota Garage in Colchester didn't know of this probably with MR2's
Only when I took it back for an oil test had they done reading on it...
I was hoping that You lot would know if something else could be wrong? maybe a high pressure oil leak ? I dont know... (head still in sand maybe!)
As I said before I thought all would be safe if I kept the oil in the proper range, it gets checked before EVERY trip....
I thank muffdan for his comments at the top of this page, It gives me hope that it will poss last untill I get enough money for a proper fix. in a few months
As for having the worn parts replaced, its just not viable with all the labour charges, engine out repair and put back in... as I couldn'd do it.
I had been advised for a full swap with a good recon and get it all sorted in a oner.
Hmmm .... it's pretty much got to be oval bores Shane i'm afraid.
There's nothing yo can really do apart from dive into the engine and sort it, get a short block or whole replacement. It sound like otherwise it's fine and you're taking good care to make sure it's not short of oil. It's probably worth just exploring the rebore / short engine route.
I've forgotten, you don't have precats do you?
No pre cats..
But I do have a sports Cat?
Do I need Another one now?
not unless your CEL is on with an emissions threshold thingy error (technical term).
All is fine with that side of life... s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "shaneh"No pre cats..
But I do have a sports Cat?
Do I need Another one now?
sports cats dont last as long as normal cats anyway so ...........
You'll probably need a new cat after the repair.
But it'd be worth it just to repair the engine and test it afterwards.
If it works well enough and isn't causing back pressure then you don't need a new one, if it doesn't you will - about as simple as it gets really.
That's one of the problems with running so much oil through the engine, you're spending money on oil and in the end might spend money on a new cat (accepted that sports cats are cheaper than oem cats), at some point the cost of not dealing with the problem in time balances out against the cost of just biting the bullet and fixing the thing.
I know finances aren't always in the best shape to deal with things at the time a problem occurs - i was walking / public transport for a while earlier this year, mainly because i simply didn't have the time to fix the car. Luckily i live somewhere with good transport links.
Sorry to drag this off topic, but the order of these posts amused me..
Quote from: "shaneh"Ive been shot at - on too many times to count - All Missed, RPG'd - Missed , Artillary bombardment - Missed- Sniped at - Missed / Just, Missed a Road side bombed by miniutes... and the list goes on
Quote from: "nelix"All this on a plane?
Quote from: "shaneh"Yes that was on a track...
Remind me not to go on a track day with you.. I mean black flags are one thing, but RPGs & artillery? That's a bit excessive! s;) ;) s;)
LOL now that funny...
I needed that.... s:D :D s:D
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Sorry that just got me thinking of a "The Young Ones" sketch...
Rick: "Vyvyan, where did you get that howitzer?"
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lol Aaron, I found the following order quite funny also.
Quote from: "shaneh"Ive been shot at - on too many times to count - All Missed, RPG'd - Missed , Artillary bombardment - Missed- Sniped at - Missed / Just, Missed a Road side bombed by miniutes... and the list goes on
Quote from: "shaneh"I wouldnt do anything that I thought would harm myself or others...
s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Hope all goes well with the car shaneh...