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Looks good CJ..
Just a quickee though, what tyres are you running on those alloys? Did you keep the stock stagger?
Best,
Alex
Nice pics, I like your bits and your bobs.
Dealer prices tho! That would have set you back a bit??
Hi Alex..
Not quite sure what you mean by stock ....the only stock related subject i know of is stockcar raceing... Think you could mean tyre size? All i'm aware is they are 17 inch OZ super turizmo GT's with 205/40 Vredestein sportrac 2 tl ??? TTE lowerered 30mm. ( i'm allergic to spead bumps!)
The wheels have been aligned and ajusted.
Thats all i know really...other than a noticable nicer ride.
Will try to take a closeup of the wheel for you.
Cj
Quote from: "uktotty"Nice pics, I like your bits and your bobs.
Dealer prices though! That would have set you back a bit??
Hi..Yes just abit and i've still afew bits to do yet and am seriously considering having it super-charged. i'm also allergic to ANYTHING overtakeing me when i'm in the outside lane! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Cj
Here you go Alex.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/jigglypuff/025.jpg)
Quote from: "Cj"Hi Alex..
Not quite sure what you mean by stock ....the only stock related subject i know of is stockcar raceing... Think you could mean tyre size? All i'm aware is they are 17 inch OZ super turizmo GT's with 205/40 Vredestein sportrac 2 tl ??? TTE lowerered 30mm. ( i'm allergic to spead bumps!)
The wheels have been aligned and ajusted.
Thats all i know really...other than a noticable nicer ride.
Will try to take a closeup of the wheel for you.
Cj
thorough research done again then
same size tyres all round = spin = ditch = by by car
why do you think the stock wheels had different size tyres
You've got yourself a ditch-finder there mate with those tyre sizes. The rears should be wider than the fronts to maintain stability. If you've got 205's all round you need to get it sorted even if it means buying two new wheels to get the necessary stagger.
If you do a bit of research on here you'll find plenty of info on what works and what doesn't.
Jason
s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Very worrying that MrT fitted wheels which were a potential death trap.
Its bad but then it will be even worse if you stick a super charger on there as well!
Get it fixed and fast!
I told them that the front and rear were different....they said they knew what they were doing...so i left them to it.
They are all 4 205/40 ?
Jeff Foukes in Ibstock fitted them. I will need to go back in the morning and get it sorted s:( :( s:(
Please could you tell me what the wheels should be? Toyota told me 17's all round were ok> Help really appreciated.
Thanks
cj
17's all around are fine. I run the following:
245/40/17 on the rear
205/35/17 on the front
Jason
Lots of opinions on what the stagger is but everyone agrees there is a stagger.
205x40x17 front & 235x35x17 rear, seems popular
Thanks ppl- will run it in to them and get it sorted.
According to those numbers they fitted well out sticking those tyres on my pocket rocket! s:roll: :roll: s:roll: and thats out of order.
Quote from: "markiii"TTE don;t make bodykits
Hi Markii...
It would be great to know what the Toyota official bodykits called then? for reference as you seem to know whats what and what is'nt.
Thanks
Cj
Quote from: "muffdan"17's all around are fine. I run the following:
245/40/17 on the rear
205/35/17 on the front
Jason
Thanks Jason,
Has yours been lowered and by how much?
Thanks lots
Cj
Its just the Toyota bodykit, sometimes known as the Euro bodykit (in the States at least). It comes in pre and post facelift versions.
I have the TTE springs which lower by 30mm.
The wheels I have are the 17" SP12's with 8" rim on the rear, 7.5" on the front. They required some work with a heat gun to persuade the plastic wheel arches not to rub when cornering.
Jason
Quote from: "Cj"Quote from: "markiii"TTE don;t make bodykits
Hi Markii...
It would be great to know what the Toyota official bodykits called then? for reference as you seem to know whats what and what is'nt.
Thanks
Cj
Toiyota is a big corporation
Toyota Elegance kits in Japan were sold as TRD in teh rest of teh world, Toyota UK had theior own range of bodykits (which you have) TTE (Toyota Motorsport based out of Germany) do a variety of bits but bnot bodykits see w www.tte.de (http://www.tte.de) w for more info
Hi basically an update on the wheel /tyre scenario...maybe this should be on a wheel thread now as the Lambo doors have gone out the window s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Ok: Spoke to wheel company who fitted them this morning- basically he's saying it's aload of bull and the correct tyres & wheels sizes at 205/40/17's all round are right, infact he's insisting on this and says the car has the correct wheels and is not dangerous.
I've phoned Toyota who seem to think that wider on the rear maybe correct, but are having this technically looked into for me.
Also the make tyres appear to be budget tyres on the new wheels. s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
So we shall see...i'll keep you all updated as to the outcome.
Thanks again for all you input and support on the flippin wheels s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Cj (Carolyne Jayne)
Quote from: "Cj"Ok: Spoke to jeff foulks who fitted them this morning- basically he's saying it's aload of bull and the correct tyres & wheels sizes at 205/40/17's all round are right, infact he's insisting on this and says the car has the correct wheels and is not dangerous.
he's wrong, he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
he's wrong,
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if same size all round is correct, why are standard mrd tyres staggered, he's WRONG!!!!
oh and it is dangerous, just thought id throw that in... s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!:
on a front wheel drive car they wouldn't be a problem (apart from teh potentially dodgy cheap tyres)
however on a mid engine rear wheel drive car they are a very very bad idea.
they've fitted them because they don't know any better and most "offers" including 4 alloys and tyres are priced based upon using teh same size tyres all round most non specialists are equally ignorant
Quote from: "Cj"Hi basically an update on the wheel /tyre scenario...maybe this should be on a wheel thread now as the Lambo doors have gone out the window s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Ok: Spoke to jeff foulks who fitted them this morning- basically he's saying it's aload of bull and the correct tyres & wheels sizes at 205/40/17's all round are right, infact he's insisting on this and says the car has the correct wheels and is not dangerous.
I've phoned Toyota who seem to think that 235/40/17 wider on the rear maybe correct, but are having this technically looked into for me.
Also the make tyres appear to be budget tyres on the new wheels. s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
So we shall see...i'll keep you all updated as to the outcome.
Thanks again for all you input and support on the flippin wheels s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Cj (Carolyne Jayne)
Cj, He is deffinatly wrong, I agree with what Mark and Edward are saying. He just doesnt want to shell out for wider tyres on the rear. Simply point out that on here there is around 50-100 years combined experience with MR2s and that 99% of the crashed ones we see on here have.
1)Mixed tyres (3 one make and 1 another make for example)
2)Same tyre stagger all round.
Ask him if he'll fit the bill should you have an accident.
If you can't get anywhere with him, then have the same tyre type put on the rear (wider though) and keep the ones you take off as replacements for the front shuold you get a puncture etc.
Kind Regards
Alex
UPDATE:
Have advised Yokohama tyres,i now need 4 new tyres at over £150 each!
They are booked in with my Mr T for fitting, balancing etc on Friday, along with its new jspec bonnet badge.
PHEwwwwwwwwwww........
Cj
Quote from: "northernalex"Quote from: "Cj"Hi basically an update on the wheel /tyre scenario...maybe this should be on a wheel thread now as the Lambo doors have gone out the window s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Ok: Spoke to jeff foulks who fitted them this morning- basically he's saying it's aload of bull and the correct tyres & wheels sizes at 205/40/17's all round are right, infact he's insisting on this and says the car has the correct wheels and is not dangerous.
I've phoned Toyota who seem to think that 235/40/17 wider on the rear maybe correct, but are having this technically looked into for me.
Also the make tyres appear to be budget tyres on the new wheels. s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
So we shall see...i'll keep you all updated as to the outcome.
Thanks again for all you input and support on the flippin wheels s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Cj (Carolyne Jayne)
Cj, He is deffinatly wrong, I agree with what Mark and Edward are saying. He just doesnt want to shell out for wider tyres on the rear. Simply point out that on here there is around 50-100 years combined experience with MR2s and that 99% of the crashed ones we see on here have.
1)Mixed tyres (3 one make and 1 another make for example)
2)Same tyre stagger all round.
Ask him if he'll fit the bill should you have an accident.
If you can't get anywhere with him, then have the same tyre type put on the rear (wider though) and keep the ones you take off as replacements for the front shuold you get a puncture etc.
Kind Regards
Alex
Hi Alex the tyres ar'nt good tyres and so i may as well just have decent ones all round and have done with.
Cj
Sorry to put a downer on this but after paying for 4 tyres which are useless from a man who knows noting about tyres, who is paying for the replacement tyres???
Flippin eck!!! the tread pattern on the yokohama's for front and rear are different as per size tyre...Just how complex is a set of wheels.
Is'nt it just as dangerous to have two different tread patterns as it is to have the same wheels all round?.GORDON BENNIT! whoever he is s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
Cj
Quote from: "uktotty"Sorry to put a downer on this but after paying for 4 tyres which are useless from a man who knows noting about tyres, who is paying for the replacement tyres???
He's asked me to give him time to find suitable tyres available to him. He has'nt as yet said whats what on that one ...Only he has a bad back and should'nt be under any stress.
We shall see.
Quote from: "Cj"Flippin eck!!! the tread pattern on the yokohama's for front and rear are different as per size tyre...Just how complex is a set of wheels.
Is'nt it just as dangerous to have two different tread patterns as it is to have the same wheels all round?.GORDON BENNIT! whoever he is s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
Cj
indeed it is
you want teh same tyre
manufacturer
model
tread pattern
and preferably thogh not essential teh same load rating
settle for nothing less
PS whats his back got to do with stress?
i think we need to get the boys together in a van, and pay a trip down to see this legend of mechanical mastery.
what a turnip.
at least you have got the ball rolling cj. he knows he has done you, with that latest excuse of his back and stress.
you wanna take this higher, to the regional manager i would say, and demand a full written apology for this mess.
print out some of the wheels and tyres posts about staggers as ammunition.
clowns.
they might as well have put oil on your brake discs and sent you down a hill.
E
Anyone any idea where i can get suitable tyres from, the correct size an all as Markiii mentioned? Who would do them.
Markii? do you know... s:scared: :scared: s:scared: Anyone Know???
Cj
Blackcircles.com
Quote from: "enid_b"i think we need to get the boys together in a van, and pay a trip down to see this legend of mechanical mastery.
what a turnip.
at least you have got the ball rolling cj. he knows he has done you, with that latest excuse of his back and stress.
you wanna take this higher, to the regional manager i would say, and demand a full written apology for this mess.
print out some of the wheels and tyres posts about staggers as ammunition.
clowns.
they might as well have put oil on your brake discs and sent you down a hill.
E
Norti you Enid s:lol: :lol: s:lol: He is the manager and he owns the bussiness s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Quote from: "Cj"Anyone any idea where i can get suitable tyres from, the correct size an all as Markiii mentioned? Who would do them.
Markii? do you know... s:scared: :scared: s:scared: Anyone Know???
Cj
m http://www.blackcircles.co.uk (http://www.blackcircles.co.uk) m have always been pretty good.. if you go for Toyo TR1 they are a great make of tyre and will be far cheaper than your yokos - give me two mins I'll get them priced up
Quote from: "uktotty"Blackcircles.com
Had them before under me eyes...i'll have a peek thanks totty s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Cj
or etyres
or even god forbid quikfit
just tell them what you need and see what options they come back with
rears
Toyo Proxes T1-R
Customer Rating:
235/40 R17 Y (94)Reinforced
£99.46
Front
Toyo Proxes T1-R
Customer Rating:
205/40 R17 W (84)Reinforced
£73.18
These are the delivered prices so add 10-15 quid onto each for fitted. If you give blackcircles a call or an email and quote the mr2 roadster owners club you may be able to get a discount. I got a full set of 15's of these fitted for £240.
Cheers
Alex
PS i'm feeling in a giving mood today.. can you tell.
don;t put 235 tyres on a 7 inch rim
oh just noticed the fronts and rears have two different speed ratings.. ideally these should be the same, but for the life of me I cant remeber what speed rating our tyres need to be.
V will be plenty high enough for an n/a roadster
Quote from: "markiii"don;t put 235 tyres on a 7 inch rim
Blackcircles didnt do the 225s
I'll shut up now s:) :) s:)
Not only is he wrong, so very, very wrong, he is also incompetent.
Quote from: "markiii"don;t put 235 tyres on a 7 inch rim
that just 235/40 or would 235/35 be a bad idea too?
235 really needs a 7.5 rim minimum arguably profile independant
SPWheels are 245 tyre on an 8" rim
225 is really your max on a 7" rim
could he drop to 195 on the fronts to correct the stagger?
Jason
m http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html) m
take a look and see :-) :-) :-)
185/55-15 4.0in 11.5in 23.0in 72.3in 876 0.0%
205/40-17 3.2in 11.7in 23.5in 73.7in 860 1.9%
195/45-17 3.5in 12.0in 23.9in 75.1in 844 3.9%
195/40-17 3.1in 11.6in 23.1in 72.7in 872 0.6%
now can you get 195/40/17?
which would leave 215/40/17 as a good choice for teh rear
Quote from: "northernalex"Quote from: "markiii"don;t put 235 tyres on a 7 inch rim
Blackcircles didnt do the 225s
I'll shut up now s:) :) s:)
Good job Alex! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Black circles have lot's but no 225/35's only 225's 45 ?
Are these ok and will they catch the arches do you reakon/
45's are going to be too big.
Jason
Quote from: "markiii"185/55-15 4.0in 11.5in 23.0in 72.3in 876 0.0%
205/40-17 3.2in 11.7in 23.5in 73.7in 860 1.9%
195/45-17 3.5in 12.0in 23.9in 75.1in 844 3.9%
195/40-17 3.1in 11.6in 23.1in 72.7in 872 0.6%
now can you get 195/40/17?
which would leave 215/40/17 as a good choice for the rear
s:D :D s:D Clever chappie that Markii!!!!! he knows his stuff... thanks for taking the time to sort that out. I've been trying to add things up all day but only got so many fingers & toes s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Thanks lots-i will see about those
We all want beers now Cj s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "northernalex"We all want beers now Cj s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Here ya go Alex...nice cold beer for you then and a bag o peanuts s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Yokohama s.drive 225/35 R17 86Y XL AS01, RPB, Rear axle £ 102.70 2 £ 205.40
Yokohama s.drive 205/40 R17 84W RF AS01, RPB £ 108.50 2 £ 217.00
Total amount 4 £ 422.40
Would these be any good?
not the ultimate performance tyre but should do nicely :-) :-) :-)
s:) :) s:)
Ok this thread has gone all squffy and half broken into two but not quite.. Own up s:) :) s:)
[MOD] Guilty - you caught me mid-editing. Topic split for relevance, as this has now turned into wheels and tyres rather than Lambo doors [/MOD]
Aaaanyway, I'm glad you're sticking to your guns with these jokers, considering the time of year, does Mr Foulkes have a brother called Guy perchance? s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Sorry.
Very nice pictures of the car, and i do like those wheels.
For reference we see this on occassion, places that are just selling wheels in packs of 4 assume all cars are the same - one size fits all attitude (as displayed by current management at my business). But you see they're not now are they! Would they do the same to a Lotus Elise? I think not! Fore-warned is fore-armed and research on here could have shown that, but this thread has highlighted the problem for any future new comers to see well enough should they look.
You've recieved very good advice from experienced owners and pre-owners on here and you're following it well.
Mr Foulkes needs to fix this asap at no cost to yourself - delays in finding alternative tyres is just his way of stretching it out until you give up and go away. So keep up the pressure, he put himself and his company in the position to recieve the stress and it would be easier for him just to put it right.
A message for anyone else, learn from this experience - specify they tyres you want and the sizes you want and make sure they deliver what you - the customer - want. Don't be fobbed off with "we know what we're doing", we've seen time and again that these people don't know what they're doing. From tyres to replacement rear windows.
Good luck CJ - I'm with you all the way.
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"[MOD] Guilty - you caught me mid-editing. Topic split for relevance, as this has now turned into wheels and tyres rather than Lambo doors [/MOD]
Aaaanyway, I'm glad you're sticking to your guns with these jokers, considering the time of year, does Mr Foulkes have a brother called Guy perchance? s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Sorry.
Very nice pictures of the car, and i do like those wheels.
For reference we see this on occassion, places that are just selling wheels in packs of 4 assume all cars are the same - one size fits all attitude (as displayed by current management at my business). But you see they're not now are they! Would they do the same to a Lotus Elise? I think not! Fore-warned is fore-armed and research on here could have shown that, but this thread has highlighted the problem for any future new comers to see well enough should they look.
You've recieved very good advice from experienced owners and pre-owners on here and you're following it well.
Mr Foulkes needs to fix this asap at no cost to yourself - delays in finding alternative tyres is just his way of stretching it out until you give up and go away. So keep up the pressure, he put himself and his company in the position to recieve the stress and it would be easier for him just to put it right.
A message for anyone else, learn from this experience - specify they tyres you want and the sizes you want and make sure they deliver what you - the customer - want. Don't be fobbed off with "we know what we're doing", we've seen time and again that these people don't know what they're doing. From tyres to replacement rear windows.
Good luck CJ - I'm with you all the way.
Thankyou Wabbitkiller s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:
Hi again,
Those Yokohama's have a different tread pattern front & rears, so i have cancelled the order and have had to have Faulkens(FK452) in the same size etc. Demon Tweeks have sorted me out, i should get them Thursday.
Btw, That 'mytyre' company sent me an email to ask me to fax my gas /electricity bill to them,felt this alittle strange and i objected to them having so much of my personal information, so did'nt re-order with them.
Cj
hmm never had that issue with mytyres before
Quote from: "markiii"hmm never had that issue with mytyres before
Apparently they have had some issues with fraud.
We refer to your tyre order RD5586247 dated 04.11.2008 01:05. Because of data security rules we
need a proof of identity from our customers to ensure a high level of fraud prevention. So, please
fax your last electricity bill / gas bill for address confirmation purposes to the following fax
number: 01212103330
We will process your order immediately after confirmation.
Please note: If we do not receive a confirmation within 5 days we can only process your order if
you transfer the outstanding amount to our account. In this case, we will send you another email
with the bank details.
Please inform us if you still wish to continue with this order.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Sit back on your seats ppl ! brace yourselfs! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Jeff Foukes have offered me a ....wait for it s8) 8) s8) (FULL REFUND) I should think so too! I'm to take the whees back to him along with my old wheels, he will put them back on for me.
Now i'm back to square one,a new set of wheels, sizes etc...
are teh falken tyres still on teh way?
OZ do'nt apparently do a wider wheel for the rear to accomodate a 245 tyre.
Team dynamics pro race 1.2 have:
7.5 or 8 wheel for wheels 245/35/17 toyo T1r tyres? (rear) (would need to wait 2 weeks for the 8's)
7 wheel for wheels 205/40/17 Toyo T1r tyres? (front)
Is this a good?
Cj
if it were me I'd go to SP and get teh full set with proper offsets and tyres to fit
if it were me
No Markiii Demon Tweeks have cancelled them and are priceing new wheels & tyres for me.
well SPs are custome sized Team Dynamics 1.2 wheels
soI'd go with them, Matt knows what he's doing
Quote from: "markiii"if it were me I'd go to SP and get the full set with proper offsets and tyres to fit
if it were me
s:oops: :oops: s:oops: embarrased now... whats the sp and proper ofset.. s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Quote from: "markiii"well SPs are custome sized Team Dynamics 1.2 wheels
soI'd go with them, Matt knows what he's doing
Whos Matt? or is that a sp wheel design?
Well a positive and a negative - nice wheels gone, but all you're money back. s:? :? s:?
However you have learned from the experience.
For me, I would take what he's giving and then work out what wheels i want, and what tyres to go with them and find someone who will supply them the way i want. Then talk to them or go see them to make sure that you're getting what you want.
I do like those wheens, they really suit the car - so don't give up entirely eh? - If that's what you really want.
In the words of Wayne "It Shall Be Mine"
SP is Silverstone Performance
m http://www.silverstoneperformance.co.uk/ (http://www.silverstoneperformance.co.uk/) m
They do their own wheels
offset is where teh hub of the wheel is relative to teh width of it, i.e how far is teh centre offset from teh centre line. Get that wrong and they will either rub or drive crap
SPs are proven to work and are run by quite a few people on here, the rears are wide enough to allow 245 tyres as well to get the correct stagger
Quote from: "markiii"well SPs are custome sized Team Dynamics 1.2 wheels
soI'd go with them, Matt knows what he's doing
Sorry to be a real pain in the rear...but are the Sp's Team dynamics PRO race 1.2's ?
Matt is the man to talk to at silverstone performance.
PS: i'm not a blonde btw s8) 8) s8)
yeah Matt runs SP and there wheels are made to his spec by TD and are teh 1.2 multispoke style
Quote from: "markiii"yeah Matt runs SP and there wheels are made to his spec by TD and are the 1.2 multispoke style
Thanks Markiii,
Spoke.... s:lol: :lol: s:lol: get it SPOKE??? maybe not then s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: to Matt, very helpful chap. All being well i will be driving over to Northhamptonshire Friday.
Does anyone know the difference and tech details between having the TD pro race 1.2 wheels against the SP's of exactly the same sizes etc are and their advantages?
Cj
offset and spigot rings
Quote from: "markiii"offset and spigot rings
Ok, do'snt that and takeing off the TD writeing etc invalidate TD's guarantee i wonder?
They are a lighter wheel than these OZ,s but no half as pretty imho.... however technically if they perform better etc then i guess pretty has to go out of the window s:| :| s:|
Cj
Quote from: "Cj"Ok, do'snt that and takeing off the TD writeing etc invalidate TD's guarantee i wonder?
The wheels are manufactured by TD for SP, to SP's spec in terms of offsets etc... so I'd guess any guarantees remain.
That's my understanding anyway.
Stu
Quote from: "StuM"Quote from: "Cj"Ok, do'snt that and takeing off the TD writeing etc invalidate TD's guarantee i wonder?
The wheels are manufactured by TD for SP, to SP's spec in terms of offsets etc... so I'd guess any guarantees remain.
That's my understanding anyway.
Stu
exactly that
from memory Matt used to work in teh wheel industry in another life, hence he has contacts at TD, TD still make these, but as a supplier to SP in the correct specs for both the MR2 and various TVR offerings that SP also do.
your warranty is with SP
Hope this is'nt a daft question but- which wheels would road handle best on performance, drive and comfort etc?
OZ- 17's 7 on 225x35 Faulkens Fk452's 86y (rear)
17's 7 on 205x40 Faulkens FK452's 84y (front)
OR:
SP's 17's ? lip on 245 x? (Rear)
As per Sp Spec & tech
handles an awkward question OZ wheels are heavy
I have driven cars with teh SP setup and it's very very nice, thats about teh best comparison I can give you though
worrys me that those S 245 on the rear might seem like driving a tractor- i've seen how they skate across the road. I'd hate to end up in one of their fields and have to eat the farmers wifes humble pie...coz i got it wrong
Cj
best meet up with someone who has the SPs for further research then, actualldo Sp still have their demonstrator with them on?
Quote from: "markiii"best meet up with someone who has the SPs for further research then, actualldo Sp still have their demonstrator with them on?
calling all SP's with a large rear... s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
m http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=14678 (http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=14678) m
This is re-asuring s:o :o s:o
You won't have aproblem with the SP wheels and Toyos. A couple of us had this combination at Anglesey in torrential rain and gale force winds and the tyres and wheels aquitted themselves very well. Okay , we both had over 200 bhp available, but they work well is the message I'm trying to get across.
Yes, I have the combo too, especially if you are looking to SC I think that you said earlier, lots of rubber to keep you on the road, the price is scarey on that article! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Quote from: "Liz"the price is scarey on that article! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
I think that's the original price when they first came out - now down to £800 ish IIRC
And CJ I had 200+ bhp in the wet at Anglesey, never lost the car once. Could be my Granny driving, but they work for me.
There's two specs for their wheels, the 8" rear rim and the 7.5" rear rim (can't remember if the front sizes differ too). £800 is for the smaller wheels, £1080 for the larger. Of course these prices also include a set of Toyo T1R's.
Jason
the 245 come on the 8" rim
I beleive Matt offered a same size tyre all round option on smaller width for those who insisted on looks over performance.
don;t think he sold any of them though as everyone went for the 245 rear option
Thanks everyone, i know what i'll be going for ... in blowing gales ay Roger...
this thread is a wonderful example of how we love to help out the little guy (or gal) and not letting THE MAN stick it to us.
it reminds me of how this place used to be.
well done all round everyone
E
Quote from: "enid_b"this thread is a wonderful example of how we love to help out the little guy (or gal) and not letting THE MAN stick it to us.
it reminds me of how this place used to be.
well done all round everyone
E
Yes Enid, the little guy would have got as much help as well, no gender bias here.
Quote from: "nelix"Quote from: "enid_b"this thread is a wonderful example of how we love to help out the little guy (or gal) and not letting THE MAN stick it to us.
it reminds me of how this place used to be.
well done all round everyone
E
Yes Enid, the little guy would have got as much help as well, no gender bias here.
we always help you out Craig :-) :-) :-)
Just as well, women in particular are always telling me i need help. s:o :o s:o
Quote from: "enid_b"this thread is a wonderful example of how we love to help out the little guy (or gal) and not letting THE MAN stick it to us.
it reminds me of how this place used to be.
well done all round everyone
E
Ay! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: I'm not a little man... s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: wait til you see my large ass-etts s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
245s? s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "markiii"245s? s:D :D s:D
YES Markiii....my 245's not my hangin baskets s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Big (j)hugs all round s:) :) s:) Sorry couldn't resist s:) :) s:) ... Great that its all getting sorted out for you Cj. And Its nice when the new guy listens.. we get some newbies on here who think they know best until then end up in a ditch. I've certainly learnt to listen to what the brainy bods on here have to say.
Anyway I cant wait for my beer and nuts s:) :) s:)
Talking about the weight of the OZ wheels compared to the SP ones, loads less unsprung weight with the SP's so your car won't be doing the equivalent of hulking around a large dog's worth of weight. s:) :) s:) (unless you have a large dog in the passenger seat)
Alex
Quote from: "northernalex"Big (j)hugs all round s:) :) s:) Sorry couldn't resist s:) :) s:) ... Great that its all getting sorted out for you Cj. And Its nice when the new guy listens.. we get some newbies on here who think they know best until then end up in a ditch. I've certainly learnt to listen to what the brainy bods on here have to say.
Anyway I cant wait for my beer and nuts s:) :) s:)
Talking about the weight of the OZ wheels compared to the SP ones, loads less unsprung weight with the SP's so your car won't be doing the equivalent of hulking around a large dog's worth of weight. s:) :) s:) (unless you have a large dog in the passenger seat)
Alex
Yes i do have my large dog in the passenger seat... meet my Jim, in my previous car, an MGTF...
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Quote from: "jim"(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/jigglypuff/car007.jpg)
"I do hope no one sees me in this terrible hairdressers car."
Mmmm, a dog in an MG, about par for the course up here.
Quote from: "enid_b"Quote from: "jim"(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/jigglypuff/car007.jpg)
"I do hope no one sees me in this terrible hairdressers car."
Awww Enid.....You've had alot of past problems at your hairdressers with them blue rinses??? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "Cj"(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/jigglypuff/car007.jpg)
Oh no its the head gasket again!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Thats why i sold it, not only was the head gasket a worry and engine coolant levels a nightmare. The drive performance and handling was lowsey.
When a KA pass's you on a dual carriageway you realise it's time to let go and get an MR2 s:) :) s:)
I always get passed by Ford Ka's driving by air hostesses on the dual from the airport, I sit there smug in the knowledge I could blast them away very easily!
Quote from: "Liz"I always get passed by Ford Ka's driving by air hostesses on the dual from the airport, I sit there smug in the knowledge I could blast them away very easily!
"wishes he could" s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Quote from: "nelix"Quote from: "Liz"I always get passed by Ford Ka's driving by air hostesses on the dual from the airport, I sit there smug in the knowledge I could blast them away very easily!
"wishes he could" s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Id rather just sit along side them.. smiling across s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "northernalex"Quote from: "nelix"Quote from: "Liz"I always get passed by Ford Ka's driving by air hostesses on the dual from the airport, I sit there smug in the knowledge I could blast them away very easily!
"wishes he could" s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Id rather just sit along side them.. smiling across s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Alex mate, why do you think they drive so fast? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "nelix"Quote from: "northernalex"Quote from: "nelix""wishes he could" s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Id rather just sit along side them.. smiling across s:) :) s:) s:) :) s:)
Alex mate, why do you think they drive so fast? s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
touche. absolute class that nelix
You're all bullies the lot of ya s:) :) s:)
s:) :) s:)
Anyway we might end up back on topic somtime in 2009? s:) :) s:)
I have never been blasted by an Air Hostess s:( :( s:(
Quote from: "roger"Quote from: "Liz"the price is scarey on that article! s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
I think that's the original price when they first came out - now down to £800 ish IIRC
And CJ I had 200+ bhp in the wet at Anglesey, never lost the car once. Could be my Granny driving, but they work for me.
Got mine to snake a bit in the wet the other day; first time ever in a straight line from the power s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "markiii"well SPs are custome sized Team Dynamics 1.2 wheels
soI'd go with them, Matt knows what he's doing
Oh.... SP's (Silverstone performance) and Matt are don't appear to be trading together under the SP name anylonger?...
Perhaps you know different?
Did Matt tell you that?
As far as I am aware Matt is still trading as SP but from new premises.
Jason
Quote from: "Cj"Quote from: "markiii"well SPs are custome sized Team Dynamics 1.2 wheels
soI'd go with them, Matt knows what he's doing
Oh.... SP's (Silverstone performance) and Matt are don't appear to be trading together under the SP name anylonger?...
Perhaps you know different?
I wasn't aware of that no, what have you heard?
17" x 7.5 Rear-Offset 45.
16 x 7 Front-Offset 38
Would these offsets be correct on a non import Mr2 Roadster?
Cj
the front might be a bit tight ideally you want 45mm
Quote from: "markiii"the front might be a bit tight ideally you want 45mm
Thanks Mark,
I can be abit tight s:) :) s:)
Seriously tho would abit tight be ok? any idea what effect it would have on handling and performance if any?
It's all sooooooo....confusing these ofsets, but i know the wheels are really important on a car and it has to be right.
Cj
it may rub the wheel arch
Quote from: "markiii"it may rub the wheel arch
Awww... s:flame: :flame: s:flame: Is there a way to get around that? Tyre size/ 205/45/16 fronts?
I'm pretty sure that with a hot air gun and a little pressure on the wheel liner it can be warped to a shape where there is no rubbing..
I'm a bit lost here - I thought you were going for SP wheels with the correct offsets?
Which are you now going for and why the different offets front to back?
Offset is critical in that is used to measure the correct lateral spacing of the wheel - your mixed offset means that front and rears will vary slightly as to how far 'out' they stick. If the 38 offset rubs, I'm not sure that reducing tyre width will be enough to compensate.. s:? :? s:?
What size tyres have you ordered? I thought that you were having 17" all round?
Quote from: "northernalex"I'm pretty sure that with a hot air gun and a little pressure on the wheel liner it can be warped to a shape where there is no rubbing..
depends if it rubs the inside liner or teh outside metal arch
Quote from: "StuM"I'm a bit lost here - I thought you were going for SP wheels with the correct offsets?
Which are you now going for and why the different offets front to back?
Offset is critical in that is used to measure the correct lateral spacing of the wheel - your mixed offset means that front and rears will vary slightly as to how far 'out' they stick. If the 38 offset rubs, I'm not sure that reducing tyre width will be enough to compensate.. s:? :? s:?
What size tyres have you ordered? I thought that you were having 17" all round?
true to an extent
however if the rear is wider than the front and teh offset is different it can end up with the relative offsets balancing out depends on exact measurements though
Quote from: "markiii"Quote from: "StuM"I'm a bit lost here - I thought you were going for SP wheels with the correct offsets?
Which are you now going for and why the different offets front to back?
Offset is critical in that is used to measure the correct lateral spacing of the wheel - your mixed offset means that front and rears will vary slightly as to how far 'out' they stick. If the 38 offset rubs, I'm not sure that reducing tyre width will be enough to compensate.. s:? :? s:?
What size tyres have you ordered? I thought that you were having 17" all round?
true to an extent
however if the rear is wider than the front and the offset is different it can end up with the relative offsets balancing out depends on exact measurements though
Sorry yes, I forgot about the actual rim being wider.
Quote from: "StuM"I'm a bit lost here - I thought you were going for SP wheels with the correct offsets?
Which are you now going for and why the different offets front to back?
Offset is critical in that is used to measure the correct lateral spacing of the wheel - your mixed offset means that front and rears will vary slightly as to how far 'out' they stick. If the 38 offset rubs, I'm not sure that reducing tyre width will be enough to compensate.. s:? :? s:?
What size tyres have you ordered? I thought that you were having 17" all round?
Hi Stu,
It's best i don't comment on SP wheels and Silverstone Performance, maybe Mark or someone can fill you in on those if they know.
As yet i'm still trying to find the correct wheels/offsets and tyres. Though i'm working on 17x 7.5 rears and 16 x 7 fronts.
Currently my stock sizes are 16's rear and 15 fronts.
Quote from: "northernalex"I'm pretty sure that with a hot air gun and a little pressure on the wheel liner it can be warped to a shape where there is no rubbing..
If i don't get my wheels sorted soon Alex, looks like it's you and me , middle of the night buddy off to evil eye Phills to strutt our stuff with his wheels! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
I'm going to hold off on commenting ref SP wheels in this thread for teh time bieng (no one read anything sinister into that all will become clear later)
CJ I suggest you check teh wheels thread for anyone running that offset to see if they have rubbing issues, if I had to guess I think you will be ok, but I've never tried them personaly my old wheels were a 42mm offset and that worked fine
Quote from: "markiii"I'm going to hold off on commenting ref SP wheels in this thread for the time bieng (no one read anything sinister into that all will become clear later)
CJ I suggest you check the wheels thread for anyone running that offset to see if they have rubbing issues, if I had to guess I think you will be ok, but I've never tried them personaly my old wheels were a 42mm offset and that worked fine
Oh yeessssssssss... sorry Alex looks like evil eye Phill may get to keep his wheels afterall s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Hope you've not already started knittin that balaclava to strutt your stuff with! s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:
Quote from: "Cj"Oh yeessssssssss... sorry Alex looks like evil eye Phill may get to keep his wheels afterall s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Hope you've not already started knittin that balaclava to strutt your stuff with! s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:
He comes round my house ballyed up and trying to nick me wheels he'll get to meet Pokey and Wacky again, my pet baseball bats. One of which was too big for him to swing in the summer! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Phil
Quote from: "evileye_xc"Quote from: "Cj"Oh yeessssssssss... sorry Alex looks like evil eye Phill may get to keep his wheels afterall s:lol: :lol: s:lol: Hope you've not already started knittin that balaclava to strutt your stuff with! s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:
He comes round my house ballyed up and trying to nick me wheels he'll get to meet Pokey and Wacky again, my pet baseball bats. One of which was too big for him to swing in the summer! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Phil
s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Don't worry Phill, Got a call this morning, my wheels have arrived! Yours are safe now s:lol: :lol: s:lol: AND- the good news is...Alex and i got to save a fiver between us on balaclavas off fleabay! s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Cj
UPDATE:
The wheels and tyres are now fitted s:D :D s:D Inchcape Toyota at Burton-on-Trent have done an excellent job. All the geometrys been sorted, they took great time in making sure it drove perfectly.
Smiley Shaun even fetched me in to show me how that 'other company' had'nt tightned the nut where the camber is, hence that companys strange allignment readout/printout! That could have been fatal!
I would'nt ever allow anyone but them to do any work on my MR2 ever again.Not even another Toyota.Great,friendly and amazingly helpful bunch they all are.Even the guys who valet the cars were so friendly.No-one could ask for or expect a better service.
The drive home on that setup of wheel & tyre was the most comfortable drive i've had in the 2 so far. Yokohama 'S drive' tyres seem to have very good grip.
A sincere THANKS! to everyone who's helped me with the wheels on here and contributed there time on this thread.( s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown: )
Oh and to the young lad at...YES Halfords Burton who actually listened to what i TOLD him to order...It took him a whole day to sort it, as their computer would'nt accept my different size wheels,Shaun pulled out all stops and got round it,rang Team Dynamics, his head office too. The poor lad was headbanging...but heads above any of the other so called no-it-alls that tryed with poor effort.
Cj x
Glad you got a result in the end, Cj - loose nuts can be a terrible affliction.
Oh god.. even I've started with the innuendos now.
Quote from: "aaronjb"Glad you got a result in the end, Cj - loose nuts can be a terrible affliction.
Oh god.. even I've started with the innuendos now.
s:D :D s:D , never ever play with your nuts Aaron s:lol: :lol: s:lol: It's bad for ya s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "aaronjb"Glad you got a result in the end, Cj - loose nuts can be a terrible affliction.
Oh god.. even I've started with the innuendos now.
Yes you dont want your nuts to fall off..
Loose nuts can cause severe problems..
sorry couldnt help it
Well done.. glad its all sorted!!!
Alex
Quote from: "northernalex"Quote from: "aaronjb"Glad you got a result in the end, Cj - loose nuts can be a terrible affliction.
Oh god.. even I've started with the innuendos now.
Yes you dont want your nuts to fall off..
Loose nuts can cause severe problems..
sorry couldnt help it
Well done.. glad its all sorted!!!
Alex
RE: Those loose camer nuts. For anyone in the know about wheels i've taken some phot'os of the print out that company gave me after they had done the wheel allighnment...Does this not show that the drivers side wheel has a problem? Looks sticky out to me on the printout...
Cj
(http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo287/poppynjiggly/002.jpg)
Yes, the alignment on the back right wheel does look squiffy.
Quote from: "northernalex"Yes, the alignment on the back right wheel does look squiffy.
Lol it looks squiffy to me too Alex s:D :D s:D kicks out dosn't it.
Thought this thread was dead so i opened a new one under whwwl alignment. Might be to technical for me to understand though...
Cj
Squiffy is about as technical as I can do at the moment s:) :) s:)