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The Workshop => Audio / Security / Electrical => Topic started by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 09:31

Title: Battery relocation
Post by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 09:31
Hi am thinking of relocating the battery not in the front but inside the storage bin behind the drivers seat. Does anybody here done that before? What do you think of the idea?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Wabbitkilla on June 24, 2009, 09:45
That entirely depends upon what you're aiming to gain from doing this.

Batteries being batteries personally i prefer them outside of the passenger compartment.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 09:52
Im just aiming for a better air flow in the engine room nothing more nothing less   s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: onion86 on June 24, 2009, 14:15
I dont' think moving the battery will make much difference at all with the temperature as it is in there, and I'd also agree with keeping it outside.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: loadswine on June 24, 2009, 16:13
Just from a different angle, mine is in the bin behind the passenger seat, mainly due to no room being available in the engine bay for it. I'd prefer it up front if it could be done, but haven't experienced anything adverse yet from its current location.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 17:22
Quote from: "loadswine"Just from a different angle, mine is in the bin behind the passenger seat, mainly due to no room being available in the engine bay for it. I'd prefer it up front if it could be done, but haven't experienced anything adverse yet from its current location.

I think that the driver bin is better than running cables from the front bin towards the engine. and it is easier too as i believe.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: custardavenger on June 24, 2009, 17:44
Have you thought about a lightweight battery? They are much smaller and may be the best bet. If you are going to put it in the bun I would replace the stock batt with a sealed one.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 17:55
Quote from: "custardavenger"Have you thought about a lightweight battery? They are much smaller and may be the best bet. If you are going to put it in the bun I would replace the stock batt with a sealed one.

Lightweight is a good swap but i m going to change the toyota audio in the car and i dont know if a lightweight battery can handle an audio system stable
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: custardavenger on June 24, 2009, 17:57
How much audio are you planning to add?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 19:13
Quote from: "custardavenger"How much audio are you planning to add?

i just ordered a MB quart pvi 216 and later a sub. nothing extreme just adding quality.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: custardavenger on June 24, 2009, 19:26
If your only installing an amp for the sub you should be fine with a lightweight battery, Thats is unless you fit a 500w rms bad boy.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: FuZZy_gr on June 24, 2009, 19:28
Quote from: "custardavenger"If your only installing an amp for the sub you should be fine with a lightweight battery, Thats is unless you fit a 500w rms bad boy.

i think i should finish the audio 1st to see what is my power needs and then decide...
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: custardavenger on June 24, 2009, 19:46
Good plan.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: triz on June 24, 2009, 21:36
I would go with a lightweight battery. Unless ou have really crazy system.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Tem on June 25, 2009, 00:27
Quote from: "FuZZy_gr"
Quote from: "custardavenger"Have you thought about a lightweight battery? They are much smaller and may be the best bet. If you are going to put it in the bun I would replace the stock batt with a sealed one.

Lightweight is a good swap but i m going to change the toyota audio in the car and i dont know if a lightweight battery can handle an audio system stable

Lightweight batteries tend to be better than large ones. They give out more current and some ppl building heavy systems actually use lightweight batteries instead of capacitors these days.

Obviously they run out of power pretty quickly, if you have a habit of listening your system with high volume without the engine running.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: dj2k21 on June 26, 2009, 23:32
hey guys, just to give yet another opinion on this.. my engine compartment is somewhat cramped due to the large exhaist, chargecooler and turbo set-up, as I also have a huge soundsystem I used a SARD battery relocation box to move the standard battery to the front compartment under the bonnett, it looks really well under there, adds much needed weight to the front end for roadsters running big power to help with handling.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: alancdavis on June 27, 2009, 16:19
Off topic I know but is there anybody who does this so called "flocking",,,It may be a good option to cover a center console ??
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: dj2k21 on June 27, 2009, 22:03
autoflock and suffolk flocking services, suffolk did my dash, centre console, door cards, and round my windscreen and things and its fantastic stuff  s:) :) s:)  really pleased with it all
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: SFerrari on February 18, 2013, 15:18
I'm thinking of relocating the battery in front of the car, in terms of cabling, just need to buy additional cable with same section and quality and that's it ?
Not speaking about the box and support for the battery, but just about cabling.
No danger of prolongating the cables, side by side, till the front of the car ?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: StuC on February 19, 2013, 11:54
There was a set for sale here (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=38493&p=491444#p491444). Not sure if they are still.
Ask dyn-evo if they were cut to length.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Zonda_ on February 19, 2013, 16:24
Does anyone have any pictures of their batteries after relocation as I'm planning on doing this myself.  I'm moving the battery to put a direct air feed from the side vent.  A list of parts I need would be very helpful too as I'm a complete novice!
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: trevsmr2 on February 19, 2013, 23:33
There was a post over on spyderchat where the battery had either been lowered in the engine bay ,or moved to the front
unfortunately its an old post and the pics are not there,on this particular thread  

 m http://spyderchat.com/forums/showthread ... ng+battery (http://spyderchat.com/forums/showthread.php?8538-Pictures-and-explanation-of-Battery-Trays&highlight=locating+battery) m
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: onion86 on February 20, 2013, 00:37
This is the moving it down to the rear cross member, may have a similar result to airflow without having to move it to the front and buy extra parts  m http://www.midshiprunabout.org/mk3/movi ... ss-member/ (http://www.midshiprunabout.org/mk3/moving-stock-battery-to-rear-lower-cross-member/) m
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: dj2k21 on February 20, 2013, 08:00
Heres mine

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad124/djoice84426/mr2/20121013_152736.jpg)

Mounted up front  s:) :) s:)

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: dan944 on April 28, 2014, 19:58
To move the battery up front how do you extend the cables? I've not had a proper look at it but its going to I up front for weight distribution. We talking joining the new to old or completely replacing the old?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: mr-ed_smt on August 19, 2015, 12:26
When moving the battery to the frunk, what gauge (thickness) wire have people used to run back to the engine bay?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2015, 12:40
You need to be careful of voltage drop. I used a company on eBay called simply split charge who made them to my length and fitted terminals, I used 25mm2 cable with an inline fuse by the battery (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/19/a44d50be9c4bf3fadc71523fe4a9325b.jpg)
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: mr-ed_smt on August 19, 2015, 12:44
Thanks Mark - so you've had no issue with 25mm2 cable then? I was worried it wouldn't be large enough. What size fuse have you got?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2015, 13:14
No it's been great, and I use a very small battery with no problems starting or anything untoward. I bought a ctek battery conditioner because I thought I'd have issues with the battery but I haven't needed to use it yet. Not sure what fuse size but I'll check for you
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: jonty on August 19, 2015, 13:29
Have you got any photos of how you've joined the cables Mark? I'd be interested to see how it all attaches as I would quite like to do this as well, but want to keep it all neat and tidy, which I'm sure you'll have done!
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2015, 13:50
ill take some.

basically I have a short lead 6mm eye to 8mm eye which goes from battery to fuse holder. Then a long lead with 8mm eye on both ends, going from the fuse holder to a connection terminal in the engine bay where the battery used to be. I routed the cable down the passenger side.

the only complication I have is that I installed a battery master switch in my centre console.
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2015, 20:42
Here are a few pictures

Engine bay connector box screwed down to the engine mount where the old battery was

 (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/b22f837f0584189b7dd047666494c76a.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/a2b356f89a649b0a13c3ba1e65766796.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/6d676bdd3acfb8ac9b99096a72bc15ce.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/f2a4a7b9bfc735315371abc8f3391438.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/149004f63b6f2abb81f2d4915885df39.jpg)
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: mr-ed_smt on August 22, 2015, 12:25
Very useful - thanks Mark. Any idea what size fuse you used?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2015, 16:05
Size as in rating or physical dimensions?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: mr-ed_smt on August 22, 2015, 16:08
Rating - I presume its a "mega" type?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2015, 16:31
Yep it's a mega fuse, I'll go and check the rating, I can't remember sorry!
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2015, 19:09
Think it's a 175A looking at it
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: mr-ed_smt on August 22, 2015, 21:31
Cheers Mark - thought it might be around 170A.
Title: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2015, 21:48
You're welcome
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: jonty on August 24, 2015, 11:58
Just seen your updates... thanks very much Mark, that's good to see!
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2015, 15:21
No problem - any more specific ones just ask
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: dan944 on February 28, 2018, 20:37
Quote from: Anonymous on August 19, 2015, 12:40
You need to be careful of voltage drop. I used a company on eBay called simply split charge who made them to my length and fitted terminals, I used 25mm2 cable with an inline fuse by the battery (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/19/a44d50be9c4bf3fadc71523fe4a9325b.jpg)

What length did you buy out of curiosity? would save me getting a ball of string out.

Also roughly what route did you go? is there anything you would change if you did it again?
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: 1979scotte on March 1, 2018, 08:48
You could do this instead

@dan944 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=14286)
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: dan944 on March 1, 2018, 09:23
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) that's interesting!

I was gonna do the usual and stick a varley red top(or similar) up front with a battery killswitch on the centre console so I don't have to disconnect the batteries every time I take the car off the road.

now Im torn  :-\
Title: Re: Battery relocation
Post by: 1979scotte on March 1, 2018, 11:50
Quote from: dan944 on March  1, 2018, 09:23
@1979scotte (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=20268) that's interesting!

I was gonna do the usual and stick a varley red top(or similar) up front with a battery killswitch on the centre console so I don't have to disconnect the batteries every time I take the car off the road.

now Im torn  :-\

May not be as easy as it looks tbh.
My V6 only uses the bottle as an overflow so wasn't to difficult to move.
Especially as I didn't have to do it myself.