Right: I picked the Roadster up from Woodsport on Wednesday!!:driving:
We decided to spend a few days "up norf, like" prior to the 300 mile trip back "dahn sarf".....!
I have to say that comparing it to the Mk1 with AE101 SC engine, it just feels / sounds / IS, far superior...
I must also say that the Mk3 is a far better drive than the MK1, too.....the handling, comfort, brakes, ragtop,etc, just make it a......better car, basically....!
With the sorrowful 1ZZ, its not bad, but with the 1MZ bad-boy fitted, its just great..!
I found the gearing a little short for my liking: this is using the Mk2 5-speed box with the MK3 LSD fitted.
After a chat with Paul, I reckon the conversion would benefit from a longer final drive, possibly?
I dunno: maybe its just the way I drive currently??
I basically found that I was doing the majority of my driving in 4th and 5th gear: there was no need to change down most of the time, even on the moors....
Just push the loud pedal and you're off.....!
We did 250 miles over 3 days, and it never missed a beat: the noise is just AMAZING!
Even starting it up, it SOUNDS like it means business: we were in Whitby in some car park and the local saxo / corsa bods were milling around when we returned to the car.
When I started her up, heads turned, believe me...rotflmao
It will be SO easy to get banned in this: it cruises on the M-way in 5th @ around 3k rpm doing around 70.
When you apply a little pressure to the pedal, suddenly you're doing 90 @ only 4k.......
I was taking it easy, but I reckon if you really floored it, it would be quite scary...!:D
I'm going to sort the brakes and suspension...then it'll be just perfect, I reckon..?
The engine is very relaxed: its hardly doing any real work.
After lugging a 10-ton Camry around, it must think all its xmas's have come at once.....?
I was considering possibly removing the ABS / PS..but I'll DEFO keep both now: it makes sense, I think..?!
Oh..before I forget: another bonus is the fuel economy!!
Can you believe on the way home, I got the best part of 300 miles out of a tank of regular unleaded..!!!!!!!!
Its a 3L V6, ffs...!?
Happy days!
However, if driven a little "harder", I reckon it'll be possible to empty a tank in under 100 miles, easy! I WAS being careful, after all.....!
But it goes to show, big engines dont ALWAYS have to be gas guzzlers.....!
Conclusion...?
SO far; loving it....!:thumbsup:
Well done on pushing the boundaries of what is possible. s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:
bet nigel is jealous, he will have to amend his sig now. good work chap! i only wish i could have done this to mine whilst i had it.
Nigel (dad) is soooo going to crack and bung a V8 in the back now!
DO IT!!!!! DO IT NOW !!!!
I made the BIG mistake of looking in the back of PW's Mk1 AUdi V8 conversion when I was up there...and the mind started having naughty thoughts.... s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Last year, I was planning on buying a Mk3 non-runner, buying PW's 1UZ-FE / gearbox, and getting to work with the angle-grinder...!
....but then sanity set back in, and after much deliberation went for the (then new) 1MZ-FE conversion.
Its easy to get starry-eyed about the "bigger is better" engine syndrome: indeed i was talking with Paul in 2007 about sticking a BMW V12 in the back of a (SEVERELY MODDED) Mk1.......££££££££££££££! (which I cannot really justify)
Personally, I think anything over 300hp in a Mk3 is simply too much...?
Sure...it'll shoot off like a bat out of hell.....but then you have to stop it (brake upgrade), redress the balance of the car (suspension upgrade)....and then theres the question of getting the power down onto the tarmac efficiently to be able to USE it....
Another overlooked factor is the gear ratios.....My car defo could do with a longer final drive (IMHO!)
With the effortless power available, you dont need to rev over 3k (unless your in a hurry / racing!), so basically 2nd gear ratio could really be 1st....?
This does present a problem (unless you have VERY deep pockets).
The various conversion options available all use a certain engine / gearbox-that-fits combination....
The bigger / more HP the engine, the more noticeable / critical this will surely become?
My car would be perfect if it had a 7-speed gearbox, or even a longer final drive....but then it gets costly, and finding one that is compatible, etc....... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Dont get me wrong...a V8 in a Mk3 sounds good...but consider the cost and the required extra mods required / desired to make it a good drive......... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Or you could buy a better car in the first place
*runs* s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "Dan M"Or you could buy a better car in the first place
*runs* s;) ;) s;)
LOL!
........keep runnin'..! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Thats a good point, though...
A V8 conversion like that is gonna be getting on for £15-20k when all is said and done.....?
..And you can buy an awful lot of car for that sort of money.......worth bearing in mind...? s:D :D s:D
Ah, life would be incredibly dull if we all just saved up and bought the best cars instead of modifying our own, and places like this wouldn't exist. Given that I'm still considering an LS3 conversion on the Zed in the future, it's hypocritical of me to be too critical at this point.
If you truly love your car, and accept that you're basically throwing money away you'll never get back, and know you're going to love the end result, then why not? Life's too short to worry otherwise.
You would have to sell the wife, the kids, re-mortgauge and probably go on the game....but come on...V8....that sound is all kinds of worth it!
It is a pipe dream to all of us but one day someone will have the funds (crazyness) to do it properly and we will LOVE IT! :-) :-) :-)
Until then the V6 is one HOT car and very good value for money.
(PS I have just come back from the festival of speed, so at this point I would happily sell my soul for a ridiculous car!) :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "Dyn-Evo"Another overlooked factor is the gear ratios.....My car defo could do with a longer final drive (IMHO!)
With the effortless power available, you dont need to rev over 3k (unless your in a hurry / racing!), so basically 2nd gear ratio could really be 1st....?
We put a taller final drive in our 1MZ-FE equipped mk3 as part of it's initial build, you'd be welcome to give it a go if you're anywhere near Coventry. I'd be interested to see what it's like with the standard final drive! Have you used the S54 gearbox?
Patrick
As far as I'm aware, yes: Mk2 N/A box......
However, Paul has fitted the LSD (3.94:1?)from the UK Mk3, which will alter things somewhat....? perhaps this is the cause....?
Looking a little closer, the E53 diff (3.625:1) would have been more comfortable for me, perhaps..? But I have got LSD.... s:? :? s:?
I suppose I could simply run larger rear wheels..!? s:D :D s:D
Interesting read! I should be picking mine up next week I believe s:) :) s:) Did you go for the extended 5th gear as well?
Quote from: "WillsSayers"Interesting read! I should be picking mine up next week I believe s:) :) s:) Did you go for the extended 5th gear as well?
Wills is yours no the cast iron block 3vzme or something? not the aluminium block of the 1mz-fe? Or am I missing something?
Alex
Quote from: "northernalex"Quote from: "WillsSayers"Interesting read! I should be picking mine up next week I believe s:) :) s:) Did you go for the extended 5th gear as well?
Wills is yours no the cast iron block 3vzme or something? not the aluminium block of the 1mz-fe? Or am I missing something?
Alex
And why haven't us fellow Geordies been invited to the Picking Up and Grinning Like a Loon Party at Woodsport? Or to the last one for that matter! s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Phil
Quote from: "WillsSayers"Interesting read! I should be picking mine up next week I believe s:) :) s:) Did you go for the extended 5th gear as well?
Unfortunately, the 5th-mod was an up-and-coming mod at the time that WS re-built the gearbox.... s:( :( s:(
The box / 1MZ were installed in the car by the time it was proven to be a goer...... would have been a lot of work to rebuild the box again to fit the Avensis cogs....!
Quote from: "northernalex"Wills is yours no the cast iron block 3vzme or something? not the aluminium block of the 1mz-fe? Or am I missing something?
Alex
Missing something indeed, me ol' mucker! I've got the 1mz (alloy lump) sat in my car at the moment. The kindly Mr. Woods has also done a bit of headwork on it as I understand, so the final figure should sit at 220 - 225 bhp I believe, with extended 5th gear and LSD. He's also fixed a bit of rust on the subframe (created a thread about that a while ago) and he should be slopping some underseal under the car too!
Quote from: "evileye_xc"And why haven't us fellow Geordies been invited to the Picking Up and Grinning Like a Loon Party at Woodsport? Or to the last one for that matter! s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
Phil
Ofc everyone's welcome! I was actually going to send a few PMs out last night but I was at the missus' house doing some holiday hunting! I think Paul's expecting it to be done by end of next week latest, but I'm planning on going on holiday next week so won't be around to collect it until Saturday (17th) or during the week. When is more convenient for you lads, I can tek a day off work if needs be. Altho I do need to get the car tax'd and MOT'd once everyone's done abusing it xD
Quote from: "Dyn-Evo"Unfortunately, the 5th-mod was an up-and-coming mod at the time that WS re-built the gearbox.... s:( :( s:(
The box / 1MZ were installed in the car by the time it was proven to be a goer...... would have been a lot of work to rebuild the box again to fit the Avensis cogs....!
Now lad,
Greg, isn't it? Well I'll let you know how long motorway cruising feels when I pick it up. Can't be much worse than my mk2, that always feels like it's reving high!
I'd definitely like to have a ROC dyno day some time, would be good to see how our V6s compare with consistancy (spesh with Nige's there too), as well as how they hold up to the turbo lads and ladies!
I've tried both versions of the box now and although the original configuration was a little short on the motorway, ( superb acceleration in fifth though s:) :) s:) ), the rest of the gears were fine for my engine. My engine is , of course ,the older cast iron block 3VZ-FE, whereas Greg's , Wills' and Patrick's all use the 1MZ-FE with an alloy block, that probably has a bit more power and torque as well, plus being lighter. ( the alloy lump wasn't available to me for my swap).
I find the longer fifth gear that is now on my box gives pretty much the perfect mix for me now, though first is a little short, its not a real problem. Acceleration is excellent on mine, so should be outstanding on the 1MZ cars.
I'm pleased you are enjoying yours Greg, thought you would s8) 8) s8) . I certainly wouldn't swap my Roadster for anything this side of very exotic, its just so much fun for the use I put it to. s:D :D s:D
Always a pleasure to see my mates in the area whenever I'm up at Woodsport. Looking forward to the treasure hunt and seeing you guys again. s8) 8) s8)
So what is the hp&tq output of these badboys? Are you guys all running the original ecu from the donor car? What do they rev to? Im guessing revs are irrelevant and it just goes s:D :D s:D
I think as standard they're 205bhp and about 200ft/lb! And I think they rev to 6 - 7k, cant' remember off the top of my head......!
Nice s:D :D s:D
Yeh: as above...around 200, both figures.....Mind you, Pauls done a bit of headwork on mine, too.... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I recommend the Cobra quad-exit, too....sounds / looks A1..!
The cars running the 1ZZ ECU for dash, alarm, etc.....
The 1MZ ECU is handling engine stuff: I'm going to be "playing" with ECU stuff: trying a US Lexus ECU, and ultimately a (severely modded!)Megasquirt 2.
The overall plan is to ditch BOTH ECUs amd run MS2 for everything, but theres a long way to go before thats a reality..... s:D :D s:D
Nigel: interesting you say the 1st is short......thats my main bugbear......!
I'm tempted to just pull off in 2nd: I had a BMW in the early '90s which could rev to 5k in 1st, and you'd only be going about 8mph..!! s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
5th in the Mk3 IS sublime, mind you...its almost like driving an auto...!? s8) 8) s8)
Greg, where abouts in England ya from?
As I said before, I wouldn't mind a rolling road day! Glad to see you're enjoying it that much though, definitely a good sign. Any more thoughts now you've been testing for a while?
Darn now I raelly one one even more. So jelous of you all!
Thing is .. spend several thousand on a V6 conversion?, OR spend that money 'upgrading' the car to a clio V6, Scooby, or S2000.. its always such a hard decision!!!
Alex
If its going to come down to resale values, then changing over to a different car might be the best way to go for a lot of people, as you can't perform the "back to stock and sell bits on routine" with the V6.
We have no real yardstick of how much one is worth seliing on, as they are so rare and will only ever be purchased by enthusiasts. Anyone who has driven one usually likes it though.
I've always liked the Clio V6, but would never swap mine for one.
Just had a look on the Woodsport webcam. There is a silver one there on the ramp, come on fess up, who's having the next V6 then?
TBH, last year I was considering a VX220 or V6 Clio as my "new" car.....
But looking at the weight of the Clio, and the fact that most £10k VX turbos have most likely been stacked on track and had front/rear clamshells, etc replaced (and I didnt wanna go to £14k for a "decent" one!), the Mk3 / V6 combo was a no-brainer, really.... s:D :D s:D
As I'll probably have the Mk3 for , ooh, 3 -4 years...I reckon I'll probably get an R32 or Megane F1 next (or something along those lines.......!)
Something you can put a few cases / passengers in, basically..but still a bit "special"... s8) 8) s8)
Quote from: "loadswine"Just had a look on the Woodsport webcam. There is a silver one there on the ramp, come on fess up, who's having the next V6 then?
Oooh, does that mean mine's off the ramps? Or is it t'other ramp?
I did see the silver one there t'other day though, although it was just parked up. Didn't cross my mind to ask!
Quote from: "WillsSayers"Greg, where abouts in England you from?
Worthing, Sussex...! s:D :D s:D
See you're...erm...close..to Woodsport..?! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
There have been times over the last 5 months where I wished I lived a little closer, too.......! s:D :D s:D
RR days are not my bag, really..... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I'll drive the car for the rest of the year as is, planning the next mods in the meantime.......
Then over the winter /spring I'll fit the TRD stuff, sort the brakes.........
Then..its off to the 'Pod and the 'Ring next summer......! s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Ha, no way - I used to live in Brighton and I've been to Worthing a fair few times s;) ;) s;) Still got a big dirty Southern accent despite living oop noorth! Yeah Woodsport's about a 10 minute drive from work! Convenient s:) :) s:) Not that I've been able to go as often as I'd have liked.........!
Can't say I'm a huge RR fan, but I'd love to get a figure for pub bragging rights, y'knar!
Sounds good, fancy creating a project thread some time? I'd love to see what's planned and how it goes when it's happening s:) :) s:) Only thing I've got planned for mine at the moment is to try and source some performance 'zorst manifolds, as the stock ones look quite restrictive to me.........?
Rumours abound of me and the lads going to the 'Ring next year too.........
Quote from: "WillsSayers"Oooh, does that mean mine's off the ramps? Or is it t'other ramp?
I did see the silver one there t'other day though, although it was just parked up. Didn't cross my mind to ask!
Yes. Wills, yours is off the ramps and is standing on its wheels in pole position by the doors now by the look of it.
Probably just a bit of fettling and its ready for you to add your impressions as well. s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "loadswine"Yes. Wills, yours is off the ramps and is standing on its wheels in pole position by the doors now by the look of it.
Probably just a bit of fettling and its ready for you to add your impressions as well. s:D :D s:D
*Jumps up and down in an excited state of giddyness!*
Wills...
Prepare for lift-off..!! s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "loadswine"Just had a look on the Woodsport webcam. There is a silver one there on the ramp, come on fess up, who's having the next V6 then?
GUILTY s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: spoke to paul today says it should be ready in 2 weeks
Good for you, you will absolutely love it! s8) 8) s8)
was gonna do the mk1 if i could stop it rusting but then i saw ur mk3!
A mk1 would be lovely tbh!
Picking up mine tomorrow................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg, if you want this to be in a seperate thread, just let me know and I'll get a mod to split 'em......!
Right, so I got mine back! Must say, it's a different beast. It doesn't half shift, it's crazy, and the noise is just beautiful......... Picked it up from Woodsport just after lunch on Friday, and slowly tip-toe'd it round the corner to the petrol station (something I'm beginning to feel will be a regular occurance)! Not really in the mood for a proper write up as I'm bare tired, but feel free to ask any questions.
Things I like:
- The way the nose of the car seems to point to the air under heavy accerleration.
- The sound. Oh my God it's just lovely. Granted mine is through an Apexi induction kit, but it just sounds beautiful. With the 1zz, I had to hit about 5k revs til the sound really began to sound good, where-as this just roars from 2k and up. Being bright yellow, the car's a bit eye-catching as it is - but now people turn around to have a look when they hear me coming!
- It is rapid. I've never driven a V6 before, and the 1zz is in fact the fastest car I've driven in the first place (except for the 2zz Celica I test-drove for my brother), so I don't really have a huge basis for comparrison. But dear Lord, you touch the Go Faster Pedal, and it does what you expect it to.
Things I'm not so keen on:
- The car's going to be making it's way back to Woodsport! It seems the drive shaft from the gearbox to the drivers side rear wheel has just completely popped out. The gearbox has always been a bit clunky since I got it back, so I wonder if it was never fitted in perfectly? But one Saturday afternoon phone call to Paul and he's more than happy to take it back in to get it fixed! Really can't fault this guy's services!
- I THINK it's tramlining like a bitch. Now, this could be one of three things, or even a mixture of all three........? Firstly, I know the passenger side front shock absorber is leaking oil. Secondly, I've had wider tyres fitted (205 and 225/45/16 Toyo T1-Rs), so maybe my tyre pressures aren't helping? It's currently set to 30 front, 34 rear - any ideas? Thirdly, I'm wondering if the above problem with the drive shaft has caused an issue? Now, the gearbox has the LSD from the mk3 gearbox in it. What I'm thinking is, could the drive shaft not being correctly in place caused the LSD to be freaking out, and doing all sorts of weird things in regards to power delivery?
As I said, any questions please fire them over s:) :) s:) )))
Its cool, Wills..! This can be a general "first impressions" thread..! s:D :D s:D
Funny..my gear select is a little clunky, too: I put it down to me being used to the Mk1 gate, and reckoned that its just gonna take some getting used to..?
Mine is at the gate end, not the box end, though.....?
Does your passenger side window work..? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I dont think you'll be visiting the petrol station QUITE as often as you may expect: on a run, its really quite good, I reckon....?!
Mind you, i also think that you could use a whole tank on a couple of laps of the 'Ring........? s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
Have you got a "Blitz" coolant system cap, by any chance? Mine had (has?) a coolant pressure problem which Paul puts down to a dodgy cap.
He sent me a Blitz 1.3bar race cap which he reckons will sort the problem....jury's out...! s:D :D s:D
Problem was coolant being ejected into the expansion tank at higher revs (4k+). Obviously, assuming everything else is working ok, and the system is sealed, the coolant gets sucked back into the system again under vacuum, but say you constantly boot it, or your on a long straigh on track....? it could be a problem then..?
I have done 800 miles in mine and its ok so far, but I was keeping revs sub-4.5k..?
Just one to keep an eye on.... s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Sounds good to me!
I don't mean clunky as in a bit stiff or anything like that, I mean I could audible hear a clunk occassionally when I slipped it in to gear. Sometimes 3rd, sometimes 4th...... Not particularly consistant. But this may well be due to the issue I've had with my driveshaft popping out of the gearbox for a rest........! Could well be at the gate end, not really had it long enough to find out ;D
Haha, my passenger window does work.....! Does yours not?! I do however have a big red button for my aircon now (if my system didn't have a new leak, I'd use it too s:( :( s:( ) which floods the car with a red light comparable to the power of three suns!!
Well I do quite a bit of quick driving, so not sure how economical it'll be.......? But should be fine on long journeys, 'spesh with the extended 5th gear! Saying that, maybe I'll just boot it along the motorway in 3rd gear to enjoy the sound...............
Hmm, don't remember the cap being any different? What are the symptoms of the coolant issue like.....?
Overall - and especially once I get the car back - I must say I'm happy as that lad called Larry. It's a huge change, and completely warrants the price in my opinion! Would definitely recommend Woodsport to anyone else around here!
Yeh..Paul is totally uncompromising when it comes to getting the job done 100%...!
Rare these days: someone prepared to go the extra mile for their customers, not just a rip off..?! s:D :D s:D
I spoke to Paul this morning re: the coolant issue.....
Its really nothing to worry about: yours DOES have the Blitz cap.....
Its just a case of the seal not being 100% on my car when subjected to excess pressure from the coolant pump.
Yours was fine: the cap on my car had a "weak" spring...should be ok now...!
The check is to disconnect the small hose on the coolant cap housing 9which goes to the expansion tank), allow the engine to idle up to temperature, then give the throttle some decent revs......
No coolant should come out of the outlet on the coolant housing if things are a-ok!
As I say..it was just a quirk on my car, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it...!
Re: pass window...the connector was directly over the gear linkage, so Ollie "forgot" to plug it back in when putting things back together again!
Paul did a "mod" at the roadside to enable fitment...! s:D :D s:D
Aiye totally agree with you. Hmm, maybe I should be paid commission for every new customer I send his way......? ;D
Ha, cheers man! Good to know s:D :D s:D Looks like my issue has been caused by the drive shaft reaching the end of its life....... Looks like a bearing's bust or something, the drive shaft's ended up outside the gearbox, and smashed in to the Timing belt tensioner...... s:( :( s:( So Paul's gunna be sorting out a new belt and tensioner, as well as a new drive shaft! He's also said this is more than likely causing the car to feel so twitchy on the road! Could be another 2 weeks til I get the car back, which is a bit gutting s:( :( s:( But will be worth the wait s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D
Haha, what did the roadside mod include?! I like to think a coat hanger, wire cutter and a bit of electrical tape..........!
Quote from: "WillsSayers"Haha, what did the roadside mod include?! I like to think a coat hanger, wire cutter and a bit of electrical tape..........!
Think along the lines of a large lump of wood and a decent sized hammer, and you're not far off.........!! s:D :D s:D
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!
Got it back for an hour.... And the immobiliser's packed it in :
Mr. Woods is yet again being fantastic about him, top marks to him.........!
Hope you get it all fixed quickly Wills, I'm looking forward to the vids mate. Once the little teething troubles are sorted these things are just so much fun. I am so enjoying mine, it is superb.
Every time I get to drive it, it brings a ridiculous ear-to-ear smile to my face, so I know it's all worth the wait. It's just devastating getting the car back for such short times s:D :D s:D
Off to collect it at 4pm........... Again ;D
Enjoy mate! s8) 8) s8)
Whooooooooooooosh!
Two days and not broken down yet! Being reasonably gentle with the car at the moment, especially since one of my shocks is looking a bit sorry for itself, but my God, if I need to overtake on a straight stretch, nothing can stop it! And the sound is absolutely breath taking. I'm hoping the sun stays out til 4:30, as I'd love to drop the top for the run home!
Makes ya feel sort of "invincible", does it not.....?! s:D :D s:D
There's just so much torque compared to those old "4-bangers"..... s8) 8) s8)
Glad its going well Wills. Interesting to hear what you think of the way it goes and sounds. That's pretty much how it grabs me. Each journey in it is such an event. Trouble is, not many folks would not get it, unless they had driven or been out in one.
It is a superb way to enjoy the Roadster!
what is the rough cost of one of these conversions?
Start at around £4.5k for the most basic 1MZ setup.
If you want the LSD transplant, extended 5th gear, Fidanza etc, then your looking at £5.5k.....
You need also to factor in a decent exhaust system: I have the Cobra quad jobbie, which looks / sounds nice!
There are a lot of small custom jobs which Paul does, including mating your exhaust up to the engine (every one is a custom job, obviously!), etc....
jesus...so double what my car's probably worth as trade in then. nevermind...i'll see how i get on with the car stripped out & braced first.
The best value for money swap , V6 wise, now emerging is the 2GR engine that is fitted to the new Lotus Evora. There is a GB going on over on TwoBrutal now to bring over the engine package from the States. I'd be surprised if the whole thing worked out much more than about £6.5K all in. That's worth more than a lot of our Roadsters, but what a car you'd have at the end!
If resale value is a big factor , then something like a turbo install might be better, as the car can be turned back to stock. Nobody has yet to sell a V6 Roadster, so we don't know for sure, but I doubt you'd get a vast premium for it.
( sorry for the slight thread drift here)
I am a fan of the V6 and wouldn't have my car any other way. I think we need some more vid posted , to help get the experience across. s:) :) s:)
Oh yes! vids lots of them please s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "Kool PT"jesus...so double what my car's probably worth as trade in then. nevermind...i'll see how i get on with the car stripped out & braced first.
I reckon it would be less than half that DIY, thats Woodsport costs
were I to do it DIY would be teh way to go
Rogue also do the V6 swap, may be worth looking into it, all the v6's they have done seem to be faultless as well.
Which is the V6 from the lexus 4x4?
yeah because Patricks going to be cheaper NOT
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Price out the equation (as its a shit load of money from either to be fair), if you've got good service from somewhere you'll go back. I'm sure thats why we all have our preferred specialists.
If you have the skill set, time and motivation, Littlerocket is working on a v6 DIY swap kit like he did for the 2zz, which would bring the cost down, although f**k that! s:D :D s:D
The 2g engine is around 2k on its own before shipping and im guessing to get it working in a mk3 will be harder than the current engine selections if anything to go by.
What engine did the GT300 MR-S run? was it a tuned 3sgte?
Think that was the 2gr... without the bolt on TRD TVS supercharger kit for the Aurion s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
Quote from: "Ilogik"Im guessing to get it working in a mk3 will be harder than the current engine selections if anything to go by.
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I reckon it could actually be easier as the electronics are of much teh same generation
Quote from: "markiii"Quote from: "Ilogik"Im guessing to get it working in a mk3 will be harder than the current engine selections if anything to go by.
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I reckon it could actually be easier as the electronics are of much the same generation
I thought it would of been harder due to the different electronics having to be sorted to work with it along with clocks ect. Would you use the ecu for it, or would you go stand alone?
roadster is newer than most of the old v6 engines so for example teh 3vz won't talk to our clocks without running both ecus,
2gr probably would
that said if I'd dropping this kinf of money on a V6 I'd go for a standalone ecu and stick a set of ITBs on there anyway :-) :-) :-)
Quote from: "markiii"roadster is newer than most of the old v6 engines so for example the 3vz won't talk to our clocks without running both ecus,
2gr probably would
that said if I'd dropping this kinf of money on a V6 I'd go for a standalone ecu and stick a set of ITBs on there anyway :-) :-) :-)
Ooo ITB'S!
Whenever i think of itbs i always think of this nsx
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