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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 09:16

Title: Parts asap!
Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 09:16
Hi guys,

Need new airfilter ( not a paper one ) and some plugs and leads for my 2, ASAP as I forgot to pick them up car being tuned on Friday this week. Any websites that will stock these products ?

Ta...

James
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Post by: markiii on March 9, 2004, 09:53
the roadster has individual coils per plug, so doesn't have spark plug leads in teh conventional sense. Likewise teh plugs are irridium, so you may not see much benefit from changing them. Should you need to replace the wires (assuming it's not part of the loom, I;ve never checked) the only source will be Mr T that I know of.
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Post by: DAZ400 on March 9, 2004, 10:01
As far as I know the plugs fitted by Mr T are platinum and I have bought Iridium to swap them out. I bought them from Hyper sports & Racing.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 10:02
Ta, m8

what about the filter, k+n will take 7 days to arrive, now any place that will stock a good filter for the 2, might have to go paper for now
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Post by: Peter Laborne on March 9, 2004, 10:08
Quote from: "j80rjo"Ta, m8

what about the filter, k+n will take 7 days to arrive, now any place that will stock a good filter for the 2, might have to go paper for now

I ordered my Blitz late on Friday afternoon. It was supposed to arrive yesterday but came this morning. Now that is efficient...a wait of 1 working day!!!
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Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 10:12
Where did you order from ?
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Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 10:17
Sorry m8,

should have seen the Hyper sports & Racing bit, phoned them they might be able to do by friday ??????? Guy there is checking stock
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Post by: markiii on March 9, 2004, 10:20
Quote from: "DAZ400"As far as I know the plugs fitted by Mr T are platinum and I have bought Iridium to swap them out. I bought them from Hyper sports & Racing.

nope definately irridium, on the offchance I';'m wrong though I'll be interested to see what you take out.

one point worth bearing in mind though is that iridium, whether fitted or not are used for their durability, i.e ability to never need changing (in theory) for performance platinum or even a very good copper will be better.
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Post by: Peter Laborne on March 9, 2004, 10:24
I ordered it from Blitz UK (which is Racelogic actually). What you will need (if you need the full IK) is the Blitz SUS Power Air Filter LM - part no 56066 - price before discount £120 inc VAT

It comes in black, blue or yellow. So make sure you sate which one you want when you order, otherwise it will be luck of the draw.

Their phone number is 01280 823803. Try to talk to Darren Saunders or Caroline and make sure you state that you wish to take advantage of the 10% MR2 Roadster Owners Club discount.
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Post by: Tem on March 9, 2004, 10:37
Quote from: "markiii"nope definately irridium, on the offchance I';'m wrong though I'll be interested to see what you take out.

There was some talk about this in SC early days...I actually had to check one of mine and it wasn't Iridium  s:? :? s:?

Apparently US had Iridiums, but EU doesn't...no idea about UK, but I'd guess they are similar to EU. Anyone feel like checking?
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Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 10:45
Well done, m8

spoke to darren and im getting them by Thus. Ow you a pint
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Post by: Peter Laborne on March 9, 2004, 10:51
Where abouts in the world are you. I'm off on Thurs if you need a hand fitting.
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Post by: DAZ400 on March 9, 2004, 10:55
Checked and Toyota fit platinum plugs ...........  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 10:57
South Wales,

Being fitted by a good friend done all my jobs for years. Thanx for the offer though.
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Post by: Peter Laborne on March 9, 2004, 10:59
Quote from: "j80rjo"Well done, m8

spoke to darren and im getting them by Thus. Ow you a pint

Don't forget to have a quick look at my post on keeping an eye on how dirty it is:

 m http://www.mr2roc.org/viewtopic.php?t=2944 (http://www.mr2roc.org/viewtopic.php?t=2944) m
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Post by: markiii on March 9, 2004, 11:29
Quote from: "Tem"
Quote from: "markiii"nope definately irridium, on the offchance I';'m wrong though I'll be interested to see what you take out.

There was some talk about this in SC early days...I actually had to check one of mine and it wasn't Iridium  s:? :? s:?

Apparently US had Iridiums, but EU doesn't...no idea about UK, but I'd guess they are similar to EU. Anyone feel like checking?

Quote from: "DAZ400"Checked and Toyota fit platinum plugs ...........  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

I stand corrected, not all have irdium plugs.

got me curious now, thats EU and J - spec, anyone ever checked a UK motor?

I still reckon they aren't a performance improvement though  :-) :-) :-)
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Post by: Tem on March 9, 2004, 11:34
Quote from: "markiii"I still reckon they aren't a performance improvement though  :-) :-) :-)

I agree on that, they just last longer and cost more  s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: Jap GT300 on March 9, 2004, 11:53
I have some standard panel filters available or are you after a cone?  Ebay has loads of them available with next day delivery.
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Post by: DAZ400 on March 9, 2004, 11:58
Electric Field, The smaller that electrode the more concentrated the electric potential at the electrode. The stronger the electric field, the lower the required voltage.  As a result, combustion is good for all types of driving, the engine starts easily, and acceleration improves.  There was a difference of 0.7 seconds between Iridium Power and normal spark plugs in the times taken to reach 150 km/h. There was also a difference of 6 m in the distance covered to reach that speed. Fuel Consumption is also improved with more efficeint combustion.
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Post by: markiii on March 9, 2004, 12:01
well you won't feel 0.7 secs to 150,

but thats interesting

however lower required voltage doesn't necessarily mean more power dos it>

you then get into all sorts of theory regaridng flame fronts e.t.c
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Post by: DAZ400 on March 9, 2004, 12:06
Read again stronger electric field gives better stronger spark which leads to better ignition and combustion. Also with a small diameter core and the v grove of the HKS plugs I have will not let the performance tail off like in other conventional type electrode size and construction.
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Post by: markiii on March 9, 2004, 12:14
point taken, though now we're talking about plug design as much as the material they are made from.

like for liek would an iridium be better than a platinum? I don't know.

Would the design of these plugs be better than teh design of teh platinum you removed. possibly.

How do they define a stronger spark, bigger? or longer? because that seems to be an area of dissagreement between plug manufacturers as well.

some argue more powerful bang fom bigger shorter sparks? others that a longer spark means a more complete burn and a longer power cycle, other that a single electrode gives more bang, others that split design like splitfire or bosch super 4's give a more complete burn.

I've not seen anything conclusive yet.
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Post by: mph on March 9, 2004, 12:22
..and no one's even mentioned temperature ratings yet...   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: DAZ400 on March 9, 2004, 12:38
Iridums are harder wearing than other materials and can stand much higher temperatures so it makes sense to use in my turbo car......  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 9, 2004, 12:52
I got the Iridums plugs the same time, darren from blitz said they are better, time will tell. Good debate guys
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Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 11:49
Induction kit + iradium plugs arrived today, only sent for them yesterday,
only thing is instructions are in jap and no nice blitz sticker like k+n used to give you. Sure new induction noice will keep me happy though
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Post by: Peter Laborne on March 10, 2004, 12:02
Step 1 - throw instructions away

I'm being honest. They are of no use as putting the induction kit together isn't exactly rocket science. You will spend 20 mins trying to read the instructions and working from them or 5 mins just using common sense. Either way you will be able to construct it.

So 5 mins building the kit and another 10 mins swapping it with the old air box.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 10, 2004, 14:08
Have you got a cold air pipe by yours as so many posts on here say that the stock box is better as an induction kit will let in hotair ?

James