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The Workshop => Performance Related => Topic started by: dcod on February 19, 2011, 15:56

Title: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 19, 2011, 15:56
Hi,

I'm new and this is my first post.  s:D :D s:D  

Firstly, I want thank Mr2roc staff and members because I have learn so much about my car. Thank you.   s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:  

I have a Black MR2 X reg, currently totally standard (except for pre cats   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  ) which I bought new and imported from Holland as a UK car (has slight differences). It's done 58,000 miles and uses 1 litre of oil every 1000 miles   s:( :( s:(   (when I start posting questions about a 2zz conversion you'll know I'm starting to get worried).

I want a Janspeed twin exit exhaust, they seem very hard to get hold of.  m http://www.dcperformance.co.uk (http://www.dcperformance.co.uk) m  sell the exhaust for £410 but you have to order 5   s:x :x s:x  .  m http://www.europerformance.co.uk (http://www.europerformance.co.uk) m  seem to sell the exhaust for £445 but I havn't checked if they have them in stock or they have to order 5 from Janspeed yet. The alternative would be the Che twin exit centre exhaust. $360 + $155 shipping (~ £320). Seems good value but the quality?

I would love to hear some advice for the following:

Which is best for quality?
Which is best for fit? (Che seems to need rear valance chopping?)
Which is best for performance?
Which is best way to get hold of a Janspeed?
How many fibres are intertwined in a Shreaded Wheat biscuit?
Is there a God?

Thanks listening,

Dave.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: Wabbitkilla on February 19, 2011, 19:54
Apparently there is a God and she has a great sense of humour.
I've yet to see any concrete evidence she exists, but I can understand the sense of humour.

Anyway, the Janspeed is a nicely put together exhaust, but remember it removes your main catalyst and doesn't have one built in (a Janspeed salesman lied to me). Have you tried contacting them directly to see if you can order one?

The Che exhaust is a cheaper manufacture and there have been problems with fitting, but Che is a great guy to deal with and gives after sales service second to none. But does allow you to keep your main catalyst and/or change to a sports catalyst.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2011, 19:58
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Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 19, 2011, 21:29
Hi WabbitKiller,

Thanks for the info ... replaces the cat!? That surprises me, even on the europerformance site they call it a full/catback exhaust. I always thought a catback attaches straight to the existing cat. dcperformance have the SS513 and SS513R. The SS513 being a full system and the SS513R being a backbox. Unfortunately they use the same picture for both. Tried asking them, even specifying the exact type of exhaust I wanted, and they were very wooly and didn't really make anything clearer. Maybe I'll talk to Janspeed themselves ...

I saw the Che for sale by  w www.Monkeywrenchracing.com (http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com) w  in the US. Who is this Che guy? Does he work there? Is he God? or does he have his own website?

Once again thanks for the info WabbitKiller.

Hi Life of Bryan,

Thanks for the link. I notice it was your post ... and what very good one it is too, I'm surprised noone did it before.

"I'M BRYAN AND SO'S MY WIFE!"

Dave.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2011, 21:41
cat back would be true the way your thinkin if u stil got ur pre cats in. lol but the janspeed does replace the main cat but you can weld a sports cat in place of one of the boxs.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: uktotty on February 19, 2011, 21:47
Che is a real guy and can be contacted on SpyderChat, like Nic said, dubious quality but great after sales, just bear in mind we are a long way from the USA for for returns.
Janespeed is great but loud, constantly loud.
Nice tune and good construction
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 19, 2011, 22:04
Hmmm, my last post just disapeared. Does that happen often?

Hi rbuckingham, lol, I see where your coming from! I like the cut of ya jib.

Hi uktotty, thanks for that info, looks like I'll probably go for the Che. Do you know if any have been returned before? Going by my general luck there will probably be something wrong with it!

Thanks everyone for all the info!

Dave
Title: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: AmeR on February 19, 2011, 22:27
Quote from: "dcod"How many fibres are intertwined in a Shreaded Wheat biscuit?

Why has nobody answered this yet? I'm so intrigued!!

Sorry, not much advice on the exhaust front although the Che twin centre does look great IMO, and sounds lovely!!
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 19, 2011, 22:33
Hi AmeR, thanks for the response about the Che, for that I shall go buy a box and count how many fibres. BTW just if you didn't know, there are 342 in a box of normal Shreddies ... not including the toy.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: mrzwei on February 20, 2011, 13:37
There was a guy on here about three years ago who had trouble fitting the Che twin centre outlet exhaust because it had been wrongly jigged. iirc Che told him to keep the old one and sent him a new replacement. His name was Tom Deas and it was 2008 I think. It was a bit of a saga but it had a happy ending and I think he even posted the sound on utube. I only remember because he bought a couple of bits from me. I had a quick search but I cant find the thread.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: Wabbitkilla on February 20, 2011, 13:48
Here you go
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Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 20, 2011, 13:54
Thanks for info mrzwei and WabbitKiller, will read through the topic. This Che guy sounds like a decent guy to deal with.

Just found this:  m http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0561949808 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230561949808) m

It's being sold by a one "Jen Che Lin"  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: Wabbitkilla on February 20, 2011, 13:57
That's the guy, may be worth contacting him through Prolex Dave or Spyderchat to see if a deal can be done   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 20, 2011, 14:01
I've sent him a message on ebay to find out about shipping ... I happened to mention he was highly recommended by some great people on mr2roc.  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: custardavenger on February 20, 2011, 14:19
I have the Janspeed. I can probably show you it one weekend when I'm in salisbury. I contacted them direct and they were very good. It is loud.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 20, 2011, 14:34
Hi custardavenger, I would love to check that exhaust out. My question now about that exhaust is the impact of losing the cat. Do you have no cat (emissions?) or do you have a replacement cat (sport cat?). Cheers for the response.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: custardavenger on February 20, 2011, 19:32
The best bet would be to contact Janspeed and ask them to build one with a Cat in it. Not sure on cost for that though.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 20, 2011, 19:52
Hmmm, an idea but the Janspeed to me is expesive enough as it is. Looking like a Che to me.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: custardavenger on February 20, 2011, 20:49
Just noticed your first post. Buy from them direct, much cheaper and less hassle.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: WillsSayers on February 21, 2011, 08:36
I don't think the Janspeed is that loud. Certainly not as loud as my old Haywood & Scott, and at the last north-west meet we had here, most other cars put mine to shame! Granted I think (altho not confirmed, just going by what Andy told me when I bought his car) that my car has sports cat on.

It is a nice exhaust for sure though, some nice burbles and pops. Although I'd prefer an exhaust with exhaust tips on either side rather than the central tips.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 21, 2011, 08:48
Thanks for the info WillsSayers.

Had a reply from Che, exhaust is $360 +$135 shipping = $495 (~£305). Very happy with that. After sorting some rather important s**t out and buttering my wife up, I shall be placing an order.

Thanks everyone for your information and advice.  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: WillsSayers on February 21, 2011, 08:53
Also bear in mind that you may get slapped with an import tax. Can't remember what percentage of the value that is though, although I'm sure someone else will know!
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 21, 2011, 09:05
Good point! I wonder if I can get Che to stick some shiny stars on it and wrap it in birthday paper ... you don't have to pay import tax on gifts!
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: Wabbitkilla on February 21, 2011, 09:21
Tax is charged at vat rate plus handling fees our end.
  s:scared: :scared: s:scared:
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on February 21, 2011, 09:44
In the immortal words of Rik mayall "Who'd be me!"  s:( :( s:(
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: jam sarnie on February 28, 2011, 15:55
Hi folks, just joined the forum a few days ago and read this thread with interest.  I've just got myself a 2003 roadster totally stock other than the rear tyres are 225's rather than 215's.  just fitted a new performance filter from TRD (many thanks to Ascended Saiyan for a previous post detailing what's involved).   Booked in for tomorrow Tuesday for a s/s catback exhaust from Longlife,  has anybody on here used them and are their products good?  Will I get much of a gain in BHP, torque etc with their products?

Many thanks in advance.  Dave.
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: *andy* on February 28, 2011, 17:10
 m http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-impor ... lculation/ (http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/) m

You would need to pay £81.66 on top after Duty and VAT giving a total of £403.15

Plus the shipping company usually charge a fee for sorting this for you (Maybe another £20)

Probably not worth it imo, you could have one made up here for that!
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on March 1, 2011, 10:56
Hi Andy,

yeah, that's how much I worked it out to.  s:( :( s:(  Curently I have the idea on hold because I have a feeling my oil consumption has decided to increase. Currently monitoring it and checking out prices for a 2zz conversion  s:) :) s:)  (£3000 by woodsport currently)

Dave
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: nathanMR2 on March 1, 2011, 11:20
Quote from: "dcod"Good point! I wonder if I can get Che to stick some shiny stars on it and wrap it in birthday paper ... you don't have to pay import tax on gifts!

I think they are 'cracking' down on this. I just had a parcel from the US which was marked in a import friendly way and it still got stopped. The item was just over £100 yet i get charged another £28ish for the privilege of customs getting their sticky fingers on it  s:( :( s:(
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: WillsSayers on March 1, 2011, 13:03
Quote from: "dcod"Currently monitoring it and checking out prices for a 2zz conversion  s:) :) s:)  (£3000 by woodsport currently)

Dave

I didn't think Woodsports were overly keen on doing non-V6 swaps? Perhaps they're branching out, or you really pushed the 2zz idea  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on March 1, 2011, 13:24
[quote="WillsSayers"

I didn't think Woodsports were overly keen on doing non-V6 swaps? Perhaps they're branching out, or you really pushed the 2zz idea  s:lol: :lol: s:lol: [/quote]

Nor did I, maybe times are hard!

I sent him:
My MR2 Roadster is slowly eating itself due to oval bore syndrome and I'm looking to convert to a reliable engine. Can you tell me if you do a 2zz conversion for the Roadster and the sort price we're talking?

He sent me:
Hi Dave, yes i could convert it to 2zz, the engine bundle will cost around £1800 (subject to supply) and you would be looking at around £1200 labour with all of my detailing included and new parts supplied.

Hoping to get some info from Rogue aswell seeing as they are a lot closer!
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on April 7, 2011, 14:48
Hi,

Just an update,

1. Che exhaust delivered to my work.
2. FedEx used my company's account number to bill import duty.
3. Got slapped wrists by my company.
4. 2ZZGE engine bought and sent to Rogue.
5. 2ZZGE engine delivered to garage somewhere in Rochdale.

Next
4. Tomorrow, engine picked up and hopefully delivered to correct garage (Rogue Motorsport).
5. Book car in in a few weeks cause Rogue is very busy over the next two weeks.
6. Happy days.  s:) :) s:)

Dave
Title: Re: Janspeed/Che exhaust info/advice.
Post by: dcod on April 7, 2011, 14:49
Hi,

Never was very good with numbers  s:( :( s:(

Dave