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Title: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on December 31, 2011, 22:44
getting my mr2 in a week from now. I have no idea what the standard fit hu is.

car is registered jan 2006, does anyone have a link so I can download the hu manual please?

cheers in advance.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: VVT-i on December 31, 2011, 23:45
 m http://audio.manualsonline.com/manuals/ ... s=16700343 (http://audio.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg/fisherprice/72777.html?idRes=16700343) m

That should pretty much cover it m8.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 1, 2012, 01:00
Quote from: "VVT-i"http://audio.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg/fisherprice/72777.html?idRes=16700343

That should pretty much cover it m8.


well thank god I have found a forum which is good humoured as well as being technical. thanks for making me smile.

any more suggestions? if someone can give me the make and model number then that will be appreciated. cheers
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 1, 2012, 01:11
The reason why everyone refers to it as Fisher Price is because it's a non-descript thing that no-one can identify.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: markiii on January 1, 2012, 01:15
its made for toyota by matsushita
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 1, 2012, 01:21
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"The reason why everyone refers to it as Fisher Price is because it's a non-descript thing that no-one can identify.

that's as funny as heck, you guys are cracking me up  s:D :D s:D   s:D :D s:D   s:D :D s:D  no one knows.......um........why am I getting the distinct impression that next week I will be showing my mates my new fisher price sing-a-long  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
Title: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: AmeR on January 1, 2012, 01:39
Remove and replace
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 1, 2012, 10:47
Id give it a try first. A lot of money gets spent on car audio, which is a complete waste IMHO. A car isnt an ideal listening environment, and louder isnt necessarily better.

The pre facelift unit is better looking, but still unattractive compared to the latest fashion. Sounds fine to me though.

Get your precats and service sorted takes priority.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 1, 2012, 11:58
I wasn't being funny!

It's an odd machine that has no clues of its origin anywhere upon it, believe that or not.

I replaced mine as the CD kept jumping and it was silly money to get an iPod adaptor. Probably the best improvement you can make is replacing the speakers with better units and crossovers. If you want iPod or memory stick compatability then replace the HU. Be aware though that it uses specific brackets that fit no other double din HU so you would need to get bracketry for a new one.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: markiii on January 1, 2012, 14:04
you mean other than the big clue MATSUSHITA on the label at the back?

  s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 1, 2012, 14:12
Doh  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Matsushita Graphics Corporation own many companies, most notably Panasonic.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: stargazer30 on January 1, 2012, 14:54
I thought the fisher price was a micky take on the hugh baby style buttons.

Back on topic standard HU and speakers are junk, remove, replace  :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 1, 2012, 18:02
It's funny how I'm getting an 06 next weekend too (if all goes well anyway!) and my biggest worry also seems to be the hu and how I'm going to get my iPod connected to the car without spending £400 lol.

Never realised no one really knows exactly what it is!
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: stargazer30 on January 1, 2012, 20:32
Quote from: "HodJay"It's funny how I'm getting an 06 next weekend too (if all goes well anyway!) and my biggest worry also seems to be the hu and how I'm going to get my iPod connected to the car without spending £400 lol.

Never realised no one really knows exactly what it is!

You can pick up a half decent double din HU for under £200 these days JVC do some decent ones.  Then all you need is a wiring adaptor for about £6 off ebay.  Changing the HU in an MR2 is a pretty easy task too so I wouldn't let this worry you.  It only starts to get more complicated once you start adding amps, sub and aftermarket components.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 1, 2012, 21:59
Thanks for all the info, its greatly appreciated.  s:D :D s:D  

I would very much like to be able to get into my MR2 once I have him/her (haven't looked under the car yet  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D  ) and for my iPhone to instantly connect via blue tooth or wire so that I could make and take calls and listen to music.

I am rubbish around cars and can barely inflate a tyre,  s:scared: :scared: s:scared:   can someone let me know what size hu I should be buying. Better still, if someone could recommend a hu and the appropriate wiring adaptors (or list of hu's) then that would be great. I just need something that will work well, tried and tested.

Cheers
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 1, 2012, 22:58
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"I wasn't being funny!

It's an odd machine that has no clues of its origin anywhere upon it, believe that or not.

I replaced mine as the CD kept jumping and it was silly money to get an iPod adaptor. Probably the best improvement you can make is replacing the speakers with better units and crossovers. If you want iPod or memory stick compatability then replace the HU. Be aware though that it uses specific brackets that fit no other double din HU so you would need to get bracketry for a new one.

Sorry Nic don't like saying this but you are wrong as my double din Kenwood uses the stock brackets. Most HU'S have m4 holes on the side for fixing
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 1, 2012, 23:10
Just an idea, dont bin your old unit. I regularly get requests for them. Only got one pre in at the moment.

Keep it for "back to stock" or pop on ebay.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 2, 2012, 01:34
Quote from: "stargazer30"You can pick up a half decent double din HU for under £200 these days JVC do some decent ones.  Then all you need is a wiring adaptor for about £6 off ebay.  Changing the HU in an MR2 is a pretty easy task too so I wouldn't let this worry you.  It only starts to get more complicated once you start adding amps, sub and aftermarket components.

Thats good to know! Thank you  s:) :) s:)  Most of the threads about what to get and do are from 5 years ago, so as I just said on a post to NathanMR2, review reading time I guess!...unless as Deadmanwalking asked, any hints of what we should get? Guess ill start with JVC!

I think i'll plan to do this as my first Mod...then when the HU is sorted I'll think about getting a dash sub box, upgraded speakers and amp etc.

Oh and I'll definitely keep the standard HU for if I ever need to return it to stock!

Thanks again everyone  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: stargazer30 on January 2, 2012, 17:59
Here you go, heres an old old thread of mine showing the double DIN I put in my first MR2;
http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=28259
Theres a how to guide on here somewhere but basically you need to remove the heater surround and the side pillars (which clip open first) to get the stock unit out.  Can be done in 30 mins or less if your used to it.

Heres a link to the unit I have in my current MR2
http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/kwxr811-double-cdmp3wma-stereo-ipod-ready-with-front-auxin-p-15817.html

Under £200 to buy new and it has USB, iphone friendly and handsfree calling all built in.  Also what I really like about this HU is the variable colour display so you can match it exactly to the MR2s dial colours so it looks more OEM.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Fatbloater on January 2, 2012, 18:40
As D2S says, whack your old one on ebay, I got £60 for mine. I only paid £100 for a Clarion USB/Bluetooth stereo on there.
So for £40 diference I went from rubbish stock stereo to quality kit...alas it didn't improve my choice in music lol
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 2, 2012, 23:20
Thats great guys  s:D :D s:D  Thank you Stargazer for so much info! Ive read your thread and it looks good! It is a bit worrying that people still want to steal stuff out of cars  s:( :( s:(  But covering it up with some draws like I've seen on here somewhere sounds like a good idea!

That definitely does do everything I want at a really good price! Probably smarter than spending over double that just so I could have a reversing camera haha..bit pointless, but funny to show off to people  s:P :P s:P  

Quick question though, if you put a single din in...ive seen everyone have a little shelf/cubby hole thing under the single HU to put iPod or whatever in. Is that a part you have to get off eBay or something? Is it part of a Celica..or am I way off?

And if money gets tight it is very tempting to sell Fatbloater (brilliant name btw  s:P :P s:P  )
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 2, 2012, 23:24
Oh is it something like this???

 m http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/autolead ... -9511.html (http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/autoleads-fp1103-toyota-roadster-previa-facia-panel-adaptor-p-9511.html) m

Thanks again guys....and sorry for the take over of the Thread, sure its interesting for you too though David  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Treboeth on January 2, 2012, 23:25
that thing that sits in my dash and rarely gets used  s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: uktotty on January 2, 2012, 23:26
Quote from: "HodJay"Oh is it something like this???

 m http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/autolead ... -9511.html (http://www.dynamicsounds.co.uk/autoleads-fp1103-toyota-roadster-previa-facia-panel-adaptor-p-9511.html) m

Thanks again guys....and sorry for the take over of the Thread, sure its interesting for you too though David  s:) :) s:)

Exactly that and you need the surround tooo
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 2, 2012, 23:36
Cool! Thanks  s:) :) s:)  

I need to start making a list and add up how much money I'm going to need to do everything I want to do :/

First you have to buy the car....then insure it.....tax it....buy the petrol.....Service it.....THEN spend the same again Modding it hahaha, what have a gotten myself into!?  s:P :P s:P
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 3, 2012, 16:15
HodJay

4 days and counting......................tick tock........tick tock...............  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 3, 2012, 16:22
Set up insurance today  s:P :P s:P  I can drive it from 12pm on Sat  s:D :D s:D   s:D :D s:D   s:D :D s:D  Please nobody ask prices hahaha...seriously, never ever ask me  s;) ;) s;)
Title: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: AmeR on January 3, 2012, 16:38
Quote from: "HodJay"Set up insurance today  s:P :P s:P  I can drive it from 12pm on Sat  s:D :D s:D   s:D :D s:D   s:D :D s:D  Please nobody ask prices hahaha...seriously, never ever ask me  s;) ;) s;)

Good stuff. So.... How much was it?  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

By the way, the surround that goes around the autoleads adaptor (or the one in my for sale thread!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  ) is the facelift panel that goes around the facelift stereo. Jut clip it on afterwards since it's an 06!
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 3, 2012, 17:44
Quote from: "AmeR"By the way, the surround that goes around the autoleads adaptor (or the one in my for sale thread!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  ) is the facelift panel that goes around the facelift stereo. Jut clip it on afterwards since it's an 06!

Ohhhhh yhhhhhh...you guys have far too much stuff, I'm a bit worried I'll end up being just as bad.......or worse :O hahaha.

Depending on what happens with the car, I'll keep my eye on that AmeR!

Also referring to the Insurance....shush, I'll never say Mwahahahaha  s;) ;) s;)
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 3, 2012, 19:11
Quote from: "HodJay"Thanks again guys....and sorry for the take over of the Thread, sure its interesting for you too though David  s:) :) s:)

Jonny hi, it very interesting for me and I appreciate you asking questions.............answers from which I shall personnally be benefitting from.  s:D :D s:D

Anyone know where i can buy a double din false draw front  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Fatbloater on January 3, 2012, 19:21
"And if money gets tight it is very tempting to sell Fatbloater (brilliant name btw  )"

Thanks, its the wifes little pet name for me. Not sure why...ahem...

You'll need a toyota to ISO lead when swapping stereo too, they're a couple of quid off ebay, I bought the full lot, surround and ISO cable from a company called liquid ice for about 15 quid. It takes some chopping so you'll need a dremel or similar tool.
When you come to do it feel free to ask what all the spare connectors are that went into the old stereo...its a secret only known to Toyota apparently  :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 3, 2012, 20:07
You mean the plate that hides your expensive stereo?
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: HodJay on January 3, 2012, 20:26
Quote from: "Fatbloater""And if money gets tight it is very tempting to sell Fatbloater (brilliant name btw  )"

Thanks, its the wifes little pet name for me. Not sure why...ahem...

Haha Lovely name  s:P :P s:P .....my girlfriend just calls me a dumb arse lol

Thats cool, If I get to a stage where I'm actually going to go ahead and mess with the HU i'll be sure to ask for some advice when I get lost with what plugs where when i have a load left over haha. I'll probably end up asking exactly what wiring i'll need to get off ebay..read so many threads about removing them, I should be able to do it with my eyes closed!  s:P :P s:P

And yh I think thats what David means...I'd quite like to know too  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 4, 2012, 00:01
Quote from: "dick2ski"You mean the plate that hides your expensive stereo?

Indeed I do.  s:D :D s:D  

I'm looking to buy 200 to 300 sobs worth of head unit that gives me:

Radio (pref dab/FM)
CD
bluetooth connectivity for iphone so that i can stream music
bluetooth connectivity so that i can make and take calls through the sound system.
usb connectivity to charge iphone

Any suggestions?

Also can I just buy some new speakers to upgrade existing system and it make a real difference? I dont need subs behind my seat etc, just want a decent bit of quality sound that can handle metal on high volume  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 4, 2012, 00:16
Ive got the cover plate, but it may not clip onto every HU. Might need a little modification. £12 incl pnp.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 4, 2012, 01:03
Quote from: "dick2ski"Ive got the cover plate, but it may not clip onto every HU. Might need a little modification. £12 incl pnp.

Yes please assuming its the false draw looking one. Cheers  s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: stargazer30 on January 4, 2012, 13:01
Quote from: "Deadmanwalking"
Quote from: "dick2ski"Also can I just buy some new speakers to upgrade existing system and it make a real difference? I dont need subs behind my seat etc, just want a decent bit of quality sound that can handle metal on high volume  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D

Sorry no.  Probs to deal with going that route;
1. The stock HU will not drive decent or even half decent aftermarket components at high volume without clipping, especially on saturated music like metal.
2. The MR2 needs move audio volume than a normal car as it has more road noise to mess with your audio.
2. Sub bass needs even more power so we are talking 4ch amp to drive the sub and components (JBL 4ch amp about £90 new)
3. The MR2 is a fine handling car but it has terrible accoustics especially for sub bass.  You'll find even with a sub the bass bleeds away as the road noise increases with speed and with the roof down it just goes out the window (well erm out the roof actually)

The best compromise I've come up for sound quality vs weight/cost with in the MR2 after several installs is..
4ch amp and JVC HU (£90 + £180)
half decent components (expect to pay ~ £100)
small 6" DIY mid bass/sub (£30 off ebay! after trying several expensive subs!, box built for free by me)
and most importantly - £20 B&Q flashing tape to fully sound deaden the doors, really can't emphasize that enough, decent speakers are totally wasted on stock/undeadened doors.

I actually found with fully sound deadened doors you could get away without a sub if you have decent components and a amp driving them.  You will still get decent mid bass.  The problem is power at high volumes, components can't do bass and high frequencies at once without some loss of quality.  A sub or separate mid bass in a sealed box takes the load of the components which cleans them up at higher volumes.
Title: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: AmeR on January 4, 2012, 13:14
I've got a unamped components in the (flashing taped) doors and an amped 6" underdash sub. All run from a decent headunit and I find it to be pretty good!

I don't agree that you need amped components unless you want it very loud.

Just don't skimp too much on elements that you buy or you'll end up paying twice as much when you swap them out again!!!
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 4, 2012, 19:40
stargazer30 thanks for taking the time to explain all of that. AmeR many thanks too.

I guess that i am not looking to start stripping the car apart in order to achieve the ministy of sound in the cabin  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D  

It would be nice to get in the car and automatically connect my iphone via built in bluetooth so this will mean replacing the HU. If its possible to swap out the existing speakers during hu install time and obtain an improved sound then that would be great, if It sounds the same then i still have my bluetooth connection and music streaming which is a big plus for me. Very loud clear music would be nice but not essential I guess. Anyone know of a HU unit that fulfils my needs but must be in the sales   s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Don of Croy on January 6, 2012, 14:31
Search the threads on fitting the JVC type - I did mine last spring and it was easier than I thought, although it required a bit of plugging in and out to get it sorted. Been working AOK since and I've not bothered with the speakers as the quality at present is acceptable.

Bluetooth hands free telephone - ha ha ha - wait 'till you get a call with the top down, they cannot hear a word! Tell them later you were caught in a vortex and they'll believe it from the sound effects.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: stargazer30 on January 6, 2012, 16:02
Quote from: "Don of Croy"Bluetooth hands free telephone - ha ha ha - wait 'till you get a call with the top down, they cannot hear a word! Tell them later you were caught in a vortex and they'll believe it from the sound effects.

Why on earth would you want to take a call on a roof down day   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   Agree I put the mic near the sun visor and its hopeless with the roof down but hey I hate calls whilst dirving anyway so I just didn't move it.
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: filcee on January 6, 2012, 21:30
Quote from: "stargazer30"Why on earth would you want to take a call on a roof down day   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  
Pfft.  Answer it.  Sound smug.  Go on and on and on and on and on about how hard it is to hear with the roof down (pref. on a good A road/motorway) on such a lovely day.  Rinse.  Repeat.

They'll get the message and stop calling you in the car.

(You can also look forward to being mercilessly ribbed about this at every possible future opportunity.  Small price to pay.  s:-D :-D s:-D  )
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Deadmanwalking on January 10, 2012, 22:46
Quote from: "Don of Croy"Bluetooth hands free telephone - ha ha ha - wait 'till you get a call with the top down, they cannot hear a word! Tell them later you were caught in a vortex and they'll believe it from the sound effects.

Never even thought about that one, oops  s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D    s:D :D s:D  

Perhaps i should just get myself a nice looking head unit with SD card or similar. Really like the idea of a reversing camera as every time i get out of the car, the end of the parking space is still 20 feet away!  s:? :? s:?    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:? :? s:?  

thanks for all the ideas and thoughts posted up, its really helping me.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: Re: standard audio, what is it?
Post by: Anonymous on January 10, 2012, 23:30
Quotethe end of the parking space is still 20 feet away!

Should have gone to specsavers!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink: