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The Workshop => Audio / Security / Electrical => Topic started by: Jubal on June 30, 2012, 21:19

Title: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Jubal on June 30, 2012, 21:19
Anyone know how to wire it up? It's one of these:

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/centre-rings-accessories/simoni-racing-airbag-warning-canceller-kit
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Anonymous on June 30, 2012, 22:43
It just a resistor to make the system think the air bag there. One wire to point 1 on the connector and the last wire to the last point on the connector. Personally for me I would buy the correct resistor off of rs components and cut the plug off and solder the resistor onto the wires.
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Stephster on July 1, 2012, 08:53
Won't it invalidate your insurance in case of a crash though ?
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: FGrob on July 1, 2012, 09:35
Quote from: "Stephster"Won't it invalidate your insurance in case of a crash though ?
What about the MOT, certainly with changes in recent times with regard to warning lights, no air bag then your warning lights should come up as a fault, but if you have done a fix and the MOT station sees no airbag - what happens then???? A can of worms I think.

Rob.
Title: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: AckersMR2 on July 1, 2012, 10:23
Am I correct in thinking (too lazy to check) that on our cars the airbag warning light comes on with all the other lights and then goes out?
Reading the description on the above product it seems to me it disables power to the light and airbag altogether?
If that is the case then it will fail the MOT, because new rules now state that all warning lights if fitted to the car from the factory, must be working, ie when the examiner tests it they must come on and then go out again, if they don't come on or if they stay on then it's a fail.
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Anonymous on July 1, 2012, 10:26
No ackers it really is just a resistor with two bits of wire
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: stupink on July 1, 2012, 10:34
Quote from: "rbuckingham"No ackers it really is just a resistor with two bits of wire

and a fuse.. dont forget the fuse :p
Title: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Jubal on July 1, 2012, 11:38
Quote from: "Stephster"Won't it invalidate your insurance in case of a crash though ?

I'll worry about my own insurance thanks. One more mod will not be a problem.
Title: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Jubal on July 1, 2012, 11:41
Quote from: "rbuckingham"No ackers it really is just a resistor with two bits of wire

Either way, if it's a simple fit it can go back to stock for MOT should I run into hassles. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Steve Green on July 1, 2012, 13:00
As has been said elsewhere it's a minefield.

Your insurance will specify that cover will ony apply if the car is in a roadworthy condition. They could therefore invalidate a claim if your tyres were bald at the time of an accident, even if the car had previously passed an MOT. The same might be applied if the airbag had been disconnected as it is a safety feature designed to protect the driver.

If your insurance company were to invalidate your insurance, in the case of an accident, any third party could make a claim against you personally for injury or damage to their car. You probably do not have the personal resources to cover such a claim.

You can worry about your own insurance, but your insurace is also there to compensate others for your errors, omissions, faults or shortcomings.
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Jubal on July 1, 2012, 14:37
Quote from: "Steve Green"As has been said elsewhere it's a minefield.

Your insurance will specify that cover will ony apply if the car is in a roadworthy condition. They could therefore invalidate a claim if your tyres were bald at the time of an accident, even if the car had previously passed an MOT. The same might be applied if the airbag had been disconnected as it is a safety feature designed to protect the driver.

If your insurance company were to invalidate your insurance, in the case of an accident, any third party could make a claim against you personally for injury or damage to their car. You probably do not have the personal resources to cover such a claim.

You can worry about your own insurance, but your insurace is also there to compensate others for your errors, omissions, faults or shortcomings.

Thanks for the lecture, I'll try not to read it in as condescending a tone as you appear to have written it in. We're mixing up two things. Specialist insurance on a track car, with mods declared is not going to be invalidated under those circumstances. And regardless, third party costs are always covered with redress sought from the insured by their own insurer (or MIB) if such extreme circumstances did occur. There is no direct relationship between the MOT and insurance, it's just one way they judge whether it is roadworthy. Which it will be if they have accepted the mods onto cover and regular maintenance occurs. The MOT itself is a minefield granted and is only going to get harder with the new rules for cars which do not have a standard interior. Lots of chatter about it on other more track focused fora.

For the record, I'm not some barry fitting random parts to his sheddy old motor. If you search my posts you'll see it's a nicely prepped track car and I was just about to embark on the interior as funnily enough, my wife thinks it's unsafe as standard because every other track car I've had has been far more modified inside. I take your general point but you don't fully understand the rules and you seem to judge me by some pretty low standards.
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Stephster on July 1, 2012, 19:42
Quote from: "Jubal"
Quote from: "Stephster"Won't it invalidate your insurance in case of a crash though ?

I'll worry about my own insurance thanks. One more mod will not be a problem.

Right you are........ talk about being patronising/condescending, as you do incidentally in a later post. It was a genuine question.
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: Jubal on July 1, 2012, 19:57
Quote from: "Stephster"Right you are........ talk about being patronising/condescending, as you do incidentally in a later post. It was a genuine question.

In which case I apologise. It didn't come across that way at this end of the question. But I was being dismissive, not patronising   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Title: Re: Airbag warning light cancelling
Post by: mrzwei on July 1, 2012, 22:11
Ah well, I might as well throw some petrol on it!

'Communication is what you hear, not what I say'.

(Don't take that too seriously   s:D :D s:D  )

You might have said that it was for track car application though because most people were wrong footed.
Did you actually get an answer to your question?   s:lol: :lol: s:lol: