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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: fstsven on May 17, 2004, 18:34

Title: Vandalized soft top
Post by: fstsven on May 17, 2004, 18:34
Yesterday afternoon, great weather, I go outside to take the '2 for a spin, I discover that some f***ing a**h*le has very carefully put a burning cigarette at the exact middle point of my roof!    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  

Result: the soft top material has melted, bulged and cracked.  So now I have a small hole in the outer layer of the hood!  REALLY p*sses you off, I can tell you that!!   s:x :x s:x  

Has anyone any experience with this?
Will I get water ingress, and how bad could it be?
Would there be some kind of repair possible?

PLEASE don't tell me I have to change the soft top...    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:  

Any answers will be greatly appreciated!

PS: If I only knew the sc*mb*g who did this...  I'd be in jail by now!    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:     s:x :x s:x      s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: fstsven on May 17, 2004, 18:36
PS2: Sorry for the rant, but my sense of humour has left the building now...    s:( :( s:(
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Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2004, 19:02
don't worry about that mate, I'm afraid I cant help with the roof repair knowledge, but can say I share your sympathy, not sure how I'd react upon finding this happened, but am quite sure it would be rather ugly.
Sorry mate
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Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2004, 19:13
Jealous mother f*ckers.  Its always been a bit of an urban myth about damage to softops, but some w*nkers are out there.

I wonder if these people get home and think about the distress and upset it causes, not to mentioned financial implications
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Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2004, 20:06
Quote from: "cstevens"I wonder if these people get home and think about the distress and upset it causes

Of course not: they're far too busy having sex with their mothers.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2004, 20:13
Harsh but true
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Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2004, 20:15
I believe you can get repairs done, not sure by who, MR2blue may be able to help I'm sure he has knowledge of someone who can repair your hood.

Oh, sorry it happened in the first place these kind of scumbags want the balls snipping or if a female snip the clit off very very slowly.

You see I'm not prejudice.
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Post by: Anonymous on May 17, 2004, 20:22
 s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  Just realised where your at. Still I'm sure you have someone in Belgium who can repair your hood, good luck.
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Post by: heathstimpson on May 18, 2004, 06:44
Sorry to hear that news; I just can't understand the mentality of some idiots. I'm sure that there must be a company that can do repairs due to the cost of a full replacement, and the demand they would get because of this.
Title: Re: Vandalized soft top
Post by: Tem on May 18, 2004, 06:54
Quote from: "fstsven"Will I get water ingress, and how bad could it be?
Would there be some kind of repair possible?

If you have a hole in the outer layer, water will get in. Do a quick repair with black duct tape to keep the water out. I have no idea about a real repair though...  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2004, 08:59
Just had a look on the net and there is a company based in Southampton. Now I know your in Belgium but it might be worth a phonecall/email to these people and they could point you in the direction of one local to you...

 m http://home.freeuk.net/caradan/index.htm (http://home.freeuk.net/caradan/index.htm) m

Really sorry to hear what's happened... I dread to think what would happen if someone defaces Sean's car...   s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: heathstimpson on May 18, 2004, 09:38
Quote from: "AnnMarie"Just had a look on the net and there is a company based in Southampton. Now I know your in Belgium but it might be worth a phonecall/email to these people and they could point you in the direction of one local to you...

 m http://home.freeuk.net/caradan/index.htm (http://home.freeuk.net/caradan/index.htm) m

Really sorry to hear what's happened... I dread to think what would happen if someone defaces Sean's car...   s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
What they do on the MX's hood looks to be alright. As ours are black it should not show as much  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: fstsven on May 18, 2004, 19:14
Thanx for the sympathy guys, makes me feel a little bit better...    s:) :) s:)  

Contacted a local Toyota dealer today and they said the small hole wouldn't be a serious problem (aesthetics apart) since, according to them, it is the second, rubber layer of the hood that is waterproof, not the outer layer...  Do they for once know what they're talking about, or not, as usual?   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:    Any ideas?

They also said a repair wasn't possible, and should I decide to replace it, they weren't going to do it themselves since they have no experience whatsoever in that area  s:!: :!: s:!:    s:?: :?: s:?:     Typical!    s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

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Post by: Tem on May 18, 2004, 21:20
Quote from: "fstsven"Do they for once know what they're talking about, or not, as usual?   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:    Any ideas?

I guess you should pour some water to it and see what happens  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: SteveJ on May 18, 2004, 21:22
The outer layer is sealed (mainly to prevent it getting dirty) and stops most of the water, but they are correct that the inner rubber layer stops the water getting right through (the hood material is called DoubleDuck)
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Post by: kanujunkie on May 18, 2004, 21:26
really sorry to hear about what happened mate, there really are some bas***ds out there  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  , you can always try this company.

http://www.autohoods.co.uk
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Post by: Tem on May 18, 2004, 21:29
Quote from: "SteveJ"The outer layer is sealed (mainly to prevent it getting dirty) and stops most of the water, but they are correct that the inner rubber layer stops the water getting right through (the hood material is called DoubleDuck)

Makes me wonder where the water goes, once it gets in there?  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Anonymous on May 18, 2004, 22:10
Quote from: "Tem"Makes me wonder where the water goes, once it gets in there?  s:? :? s:?

Into the luggage bins ?
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Post by: fstsven on May 20, 2004, 17:13
I'm kinda worried too where it'd go...   s:? :? s:?  
It could dry out on its own, I guess...  or it could be wedged between the two outer layers and keep the whole top permanently wet     s:( :( s:(  

Anyway, still trying to find a company that can do a repair, and, in the meanwhile, hoping for the best...   **fingers crossed**
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Post by: Tem on May 20, 2004, 22:30
Quote from: "fstsven"Anyway, still trying to find a company that can do a repair, and, in the meanwhile, hoping for the best...   **fingers crossed**

Why don't you uncross your fingers and just put black duct tape (or similar) on it...it's not too visible, it works and gives you time to find a company to do the job properly  s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: spyderman on May 21, 2004, 07:54
ok, here is a good solution i did to my vandalised soft top i had.

just go and visit a place where they replace the windshields. they use a special black glue(silicone). use that silicone to cover the hole. it works perfectly, and its water and heat resistant. i guarantee you that it works.
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Post by: fstsven on May 21, 2004, 18:48
Okay, duct tape in place!    s8) 8) s8)  

Next step, calling a few places to try out Spyderman's solution    s:D :D s:D  

Ahh, the joys of a good owner's forum    s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

Thanx for the support all you guys.  Cheers
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Post by: Anonymous on May 21, 2004, 22:32
Quote from: "spyderman"ok, here is a good solution i did to my vandalised soft top i had.

just go and visit a place where they replace the windshields. they use a special black glue(silicone). use that silicone to cover the hole. it works perfectly, and its water and heat resistant. i guarantee you that it works.

On my old '2 I had some cracks in the soft-top where it folds. Used the black silicone to fill these in (from the local DIY shop). It lasts well, and is elastic enough to cope with daily folding etc...

Before you visit a windshield replacement centre - you may want to try fixing it yourself. As the silicone is drying, rub/pad it gently with a towel or similar cloth to set the 'stippled effect'.  

Hope this helps.

M
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Post by: SteveJ on May 22, 2004, 06:19
I've been trying to remember what my father and I used for sealing around the screen on our kit-car (along with sealing all sorts of other stuff) and it finally came to me at about 02:00 this morning - there are 2 manufacturers - Sikaflex and TigerSeal - that produce a caulking/sealant compound that is positively evil-sticky but once cured (approx 24 hours) forms an extremely flexible waterproof seal.

This stuff would be absolutely ideal for repairing small holes in our hoods as once cured it takes on a similar matt black finish, and given a little artistic flair it should be possible to get the course-woven cotton look as well.

HTH

PS. They are NOT silicone based - silicone based sealants are prone to breaking down under UV light and should be avoided for obvious reasons  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: fstsven on May 22, 2004, 19:15
Hmm, Sikaflex...   That rings a bell... somewhere...     s:) :) s:)  
I think I heard of this before ( in a different context however).

I'll see if I can get hold of that.
Thanx!
Title: Found this I think it could help some people like me
Post by: Anonymous on August 6, 2005, 03:05
How to fix rip in convertible top...

http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=20166
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Post by: Anonymous on August 6, 2005, 11:17
yea today someone slashed my top. im so F****8 pissed
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Post by: philster_d on August 6, 2005, 17:34
You guys are scaring me.

Im already a major curtain twitcher when it comes to the car.

Phil
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Post by: Anonymous on August 6, 2005, 22:07
haha i know what you mean i usually go ake sure its fines every 20 minutes im not around it. but last night i missed the guys that did it. but i know who they are and its coming  s:) :) s:)   s:) :) s:)

laterz

mike
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Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 15:36
Hi,

Sorry to resurrect this old thread but a guy from work has just had his soft top vandalised. It looks remarkably like the first picture from the guy on Spyderchat.

He found this kit at Halfrauds:
http://www.halfords.com/opd_product_details.asp?id=20740&type=0&cat=61

It looks ok to me, anyone got any ideas if it is ok for our cars?

Ta,

Fraz.
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Post by: karlus972 on September 30, 2005, 08:32
Try this, it could be of help instead of replacing it or going through costly repairs.....

http://www.zjstech.net/SpyderTop/repair.htm
Title: Re: Found this I think it could help some people like me
Post by: karlus972 on September 30, 2005, 08:33
Quote from: "rainmen23"How to fix rip in convertible top...

http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=20166

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didn't see the 2nd page   s8) 8) s8)