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The Workshop => Audio / Security / Electrical => Topic started by: simers on December 29, 2012, 19:29

Title: Dash lights!!!
Post by: simers on December 29, 2012, 19:29
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Anyone else's dash lights look like this??? Is there something up with mine
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Wabbitkilla on December 29, 2012, 19:55
You've got a bulb out there.

From a planet somewhere nearby
Title: Dash lights!!!
Post by: simers on December 29, 2012, 20:40
Cheers wabbit... Easy change???
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Wabbitkilla on December 29, 2012, 21:14
Yeah, order a nee bulb or two.
Knock the steering wheel to its lowest position.
Grab the binacle and pull it off.
Three Phillips head screws and you can lift the instrument cluster out and unplug it.
The bulbs are in holder's you twist 90 degrees to take out.

Nowt scary, easy job.

From a planet somewhere nearby
Title: Dash lights!!!
Post by: simers on December 30, 2012, 00:57
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Yeah, order a nee bulb or two.
Knock the steering wheel to its lowest position.
Grab the binacle and pull it off.
Three Phillips head screws and you can lift the instrument cluster out and unplug it.
The bulbs are in holder's you twist 90 degrees to take out.

Nowt scary, easy job.

From a planet somewhere nearby
Sound for that mate
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Anonymous on January 4, 2013, 15:33
Just had a similar problem with my MR2 dash lights - the bulb behind the 7 and 8 on the rev counter went.  Easy enough to get to as described above, then twist the little black Toshiba branded bulb holder that lines up with the dim area of dashboard out of the back of the panel (I used a set of mini pliers to do this, as not the easiest things to get hold of).

The real challenge comes when you get the holder out - removing the tiny bulb from it a real pig - you can't grip it too hard or it breaks   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  .

I used a drinking straw - cheapo 18p/pack ones from Tesco just the right size - pushed it gently over the end of the bulb, then gave it a pull and it popped straight out.  I then used the other end of the straw to put the new bulb back in - simples!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20559583/20130104_141614.jpg)
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Wabbitkilla on January 4, 2013, 16:02
Quote from: "mrj"I used a drinking straw - cheapo 18p/pack ones from Tesco just the right size - pushed it gently over the end of the bulb, then gave it a pull and it popped straight out.

Brilliant!   s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: simers on January 4, 2013, 20:32
Nice one mate... Haven't had a chance to do anything with mine yet due to starting a new job...
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: dcod on January 5, 2013, 10:17
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"
Quote from: "mrj"I used a drinking straw - cheapo 18p/pack ones from Tesco just the right size - pushed it gently over the end of the bulb, then gave it a pull and it popped straight out.

Brilliant!   s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:

+1

Genius.
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: pill20 on February 2, 2013, 19:42
I gave up the other day trying to find and fit in the bulbs so I got hold of some led bulbs stripped them and soldered onto the dash took a while but it dose look way better and much more brighter then a bulb I have to say
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: simers on February 2, 2013, 21:18
Quote from: "pill20"I gave up the other day trying to find and fit in the bulbs so I got hold of some led bulbs stripped them and soldered onto the dash took a while but it dose look way better and much more brighter then a bulb I have to say
Throw up pics mate... I've same problem with my gsr lancer now
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Markb on February 2, 2013, 21:38
Give the dash a good slap......it sometimes works.
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: StuC on February 4, 2013, 12:15
Quote from: "Markb"Give the dash a good slap......it sometimes works.

If in doubt... be the Fonz!!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

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Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 7, 2013, 16:23
Quote from: "mrj"Just had a similar problem with my MR2 dash lights - the bulb behind the 7 and 8 on the rev counter went.  Easy enough to get to as described above, then twist the little black Toshiba branded bulb holder that lines up with the dim area of dashboard out of the back of the panel (I used a set of mini pliers to do this, as not the easiest things to get hold of).

The real challenge comes when you get the holder out - removing the tiny bulb from it a real pig - you can't grip it too hard or it breaks   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  .

I used a drinking straw - cheapo 18p/pack ones from Tesco just the right size - pushed it gently over the end of the bulb, then gave it a pull and it popped straight out.  I then used the other end of the straw to put the new bulb back in - simples!

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20559583/20130104_141614.jpg)


Cheers for the straw tip as got to that bit and gave up as couldnt get the original bulbs out of the holders!! grrr

All connected back up so will buy some straws and give it a go. Do they push in and then pop out?

Looking forward to getting the LED's in

Cheers

Si
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 15:18
Eventually got the bulbs out. I found the straw trick only worked with 1 of the bulbs so I instead I wrapped a thin strip of sellotape around the buld and they pulled out fairly easily.

After replacing them I put everything back together and only 2 of the 10 now work!!

Do the LED holders have to be a certain way round as I am confused as to why 9 of the bulbs worked before I did this??

Getting pretty arsed off with this now
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 8, 2013, 16:19
yeah you need to get the anode and cathode of the led's the right way round, just pop them out, turn them around and they should work  s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 16:47
Cheers Jason

appreciate that-will let you know how i get on  :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 22:08
Confused.com

I have turned the LED's - some work and others dont. I have then swapped the ED's between different housings and again got random ones working and others not. I then swapped the different housings into different places on the board and got other random results. I can only put it down to a potential issue with the board.

I may just buy a replacement complete instrument set with board, dials, bulbs but not impressed!

I hope the electrics in these are better than the ones I had in my Renaultsport Clio 182!
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 8, 2013, 22:16
did you just buy push fit led's or holders and led's? I doubt you'll need a new set of dials.
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 22:20
I pushed the LED's into the original bulb holders..
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 8, 2013, 22:25
i'd try a few more led's before going down the new dials route, I had a few duff ones when I replaced mine, took a fair bit of firkling to get them working!
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 22:36
Nice one cheers - I only paid £3.99 for 10 so maybe you are right..Do you get balanced illumination or brighter in certain parts?.I would love very bright all over
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 8, 2013, 22:51
you will get brighter areas, they don't throw the light out like the standard lamps, I've found some on ebay that have 3 led's on them and they're better
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 23:07
So whats the pro's of LED's?..I gather its the longevity?..I thought it was the brightness but thinking about it I reckon its the fail factor..
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 8, 2013, 23:18
I changed mine because of the whiter light, shows the true colour of my custom dials
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mavrick007 on August 8, 2013, 23:34
Do you now any links to LED's including holders?
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 8, 2013, 23:49
you just need the push fit led's, the ones in holders don't fit correctly, stick with it, you'll get there, took me a few attempts
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: pill20 on August 10, 2013, 23:36
Just so you know if your putting in LED's you need to make sure the flat bit on the side of the LED is on the negative side of the board or it wont light up! ill try and stick up a pic of mine
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: pill20 on August 14, 2013, 18:11
Ok so here you go!

First grab some LED's off fleebay or any other source you chose!
when you get them you need to check they all work by putting the ends on a 9v battery now sometimes there will be a resistor on the negative side of the LED or a flat mark on the LED now is the perfect time to take note what end is negative / possitive.

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Ok so now we know that they all work rather then fitting them in then finding all the hard work was a waste of time!  s:x :x s:x  

now what i did was replace all the bulbs with led's so go ahead and remove the bulbs that you want to change ( i kept the indicators and high beam light the same ) now go ahead and pull the led out of the holders and bend the ends over like so.

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now hopefully you would have removed the old bulb and holder from the main board all you need next is a solder iron and some solder with flux, run some solder over the connector where the bulb was now this is the tricky part!

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you need to work around the board but be very careful!! This is a Double PCB and one scratch to the board will damage it !!
And solder all the LED on to the board.

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Now the 3 bulbs you see on my board are for the indicators and high beam lights i kept them the same as above

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o754/dicky-p/null_zpsdeec61cb.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/dicky-p/media/null_zpsdeec61cb.jpg.html)

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o754/dicky-p/null_zpsa08a3e30.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/dicky-p/media/null_zpsa08a3e30.jpg.html)

TaDa! now that's done pop out to the car and connect the 3 main looms to the dash and turn you lights on they should work! BUT if they don't you need to take note what one light up! take to board out get a the 9v battery on the led that worked and work around the board spinning the led's around so negative comes positive once done get the 9v battery on a led to see if they all work! Bit of a pain but works a treat!

once done and you know it all works bang it back in to the car ! it will look better then it did !   s:o :o s:o  

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o754/dicky-p/null_zps99738842.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/dicky-p/media/null_zps99738842.jpg.html)

hope this helps anyone wanting to replace a bulb! Mine suit me as i have mixed up colors a bit but what ever suits you !
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Jay67 on August 14, 2013, 18:20
or you could just buy leds that fit directly into the lampholders already fitted and save yourself a whole heap of time and soldering?
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: brianorme1986 on August 18, 2013, 09:05
heres an alternative guys!!

 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290495461485? ... 1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290495461485?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) m
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: srsm on October 3, 2013, 02:18
Quote from: "brianorme1986"heres an alternative guys!!

 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290495461485? ... 1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290495461485?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649) m

I bought and installed this and it's fantastic   s8) 8) s8)  

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Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: andyhull on October 11, 2013, 15:33
Just had my instrument panel out to change the bulbs as one was out, and found that a bulb holder was missing completely   s:x :x s:x  
Looked on fleabay and found none that I am convinced will fit the roadster, so has anyone of you nice people got one I can purchase fom you ??  pretty plzzzzzz   s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Fin on October 28, 2014, 20:37
To resurrect an old thread...
I appear to have killed my PCB   s:scared: :scared: s:scared:  
Do these Plasma-glow kits wire separately, or plug into the existing bulb-holders?
I am thinking that I should be able to (hopefully) wire back to the adjuster knob on the dash?? That way, I can circumvent the problems I am having all together   s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: andyroo104 on October 28, 2014, 20:58
They can be wired in via a switched live or connect to the existing bulbs,there is a second hand set currently on eBay complete with custom switches to fit into dash.
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: andyroo104 on October 28, 2014, 20:59
Quote from: "andyhull"Just had my instrument panel out to change the bulbs as one was out, and found that a bulb holder was missing completely   s:x :x s:x  
Looked on fleabay and found none that I am convinced will fit the roadster, so has anyone of you nice people got one I can purchase fom you ??  pretty plzzzzzz   s:) :) s:)
There is always a vacant bulb space to the rear of all the dash pods I have seen.
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: mrzwei on October 28, 2014, 21:55
The missing one is probably for the SMT which has an illuminated gear position indicator on the rev counter IIRC.
Title: Re: Dash lights!!!
Post by: Mike G on October 29, 2014, 07:34
So does the panel dimmer still work correctly with these LED's as the bulbs are more of a resistive load