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The Workshop => Performance Related => Topic started by: Tem on June 8, 2004, 10:22

Title: Cat(pipe)less exhausts
Post by: Tem on June 8, 2004, 10:22
I mean exhausts that connect to the manifold and only have a muffler after it. Are there any other choices than Top Secret? Apparently Ricoh Racing doesn't exist anymore  s:? :? s:?

Here's a pic of the Top Secret one:
http://www.japanparts.com/New_web/TOYOTA/MR-S/pic2012/06001pic.jpg
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Post by: GSB on June 8, 2004, 10:24
That appears to be for a turbo application...  s:?: :?: s:?:
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Post by: markiii on June 8, 2004, 10:26
not that I now ofprobably easier tohave one made.
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Post by: Tem on June 8, 2004, 10:39
Quote from: "GSB"That appears to be for a turbo application...  s:?: :?: s:?:

Not really, though Japanparts pictures it with the turbokit. It mates with the stock manifold. Just like their turbokit mates with the stock catpipe.

(http://www.turboclub.com/topsecret/products/mrs.jpg)


Quote from: "markiii"not that I now ofprobably easier tohave one made.

Could be...any idea for a fair price for the stock cat-pipe? That should make a good starting point..
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Post by: Anonymous on June 8, 2004, 12:32
Tem,

You might want to try and contact Japanparts.com.  Even though they didn't list Ricoh Racing's exhaust, I was still able to get it through them.  The downside was I ended up waiting about 2-3 months after I paid to get it.
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Post by: Jap GT300 on June 8, 2004, 12:51
Zees also make one in Japan if you can get hold of them.  Amuse have a complete straight though system available as well which I have on one of my cars.

Markiii, had a straight pipe made out of the CAT  by H&S and it cost about £50 Which I now have on my 2ZZ!

Perry190 has also done this!
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Post by: Tem on June 8, 2004, 13:15
Quote from: "143hawaii"You might want to try and contact Japanparts.com.  Even though they didn't list Ricoh Racing's exhaust, I was still able to get it through them.  The downside was I ended up waiting about 2-3 months after I paid to get it.

Oh...I guess I'll mail Graham then. Remember how much it was?



Quote from: "Jap GT300"Zees also make one in Japan if you can get hold of them.  Amuse have a complete straight though system available as well which I have on one of my cars.

No idea about Zees and can't seem to find anything with Google. Any links?

Got pics of that Amuse system? I thought they only had a catless pipe between the manifold/muffler.
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Post by: Anonymous on June 8, 2004, 13:35
its a case of finding an oem cat section from scrappy and seeing what they want for it? I paid £80, not cheap but worth it to be able to put my existing one back on come MOT time
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Post by: Tem on June 8, 2004, 13:51
Quote from: "perry190"its a case of finding an oem cat section from scrappy and seeing what they want for it? I paid £80, not cheap but worth it to be able to put my existing one back on come MOT time

Already have a WTB here  s;) ;) s;)

There are no 2's on local breakers...I wonder if the start from any other car would fit..?
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Post by: markiii on June 8, 2004, 13:59
so are you going to use teh cat as teh silenceer and just go straight out to teh exhaust tip? there isn't room for both it ana silebcer is there?
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Post by: Tem on June 8, 2004, 20:30
Quote from: "markiii"so are you going to use the cat as the silenceer and just go straight out to the exhaust tip? there isn't room for both it ana silebcer is there?

Definitely no room for both. I was thinking of cutting the pipe before the cat and welding some light muffler in there. So I'd just use the connector to the muffler and the flex part from the pipe anyway.

Nice idea about using the cat though, never thought of that. I guess I could just route the output of that straight out...that would even be legal  s:idea: :idea: s:idea:
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Post by: Jap GT300 on June 9, 2004, 09:40
Quote from: "Tem"
Quote from: "perry190"its a case of finding an oem cat section from scrappy and seeing what they want for it? I paid £80, not cheap but worth it to be able to put my existing one back on come MOT time

Already have a WTB here  s;) ;) s;)

There are no 2's on local breakers...I wonder if the start from any other car would fit..?

Tem, I sold Perry his CAT and have another for the same price if you're interested?  Shipping shouldn't be too much from the UK.

I'll get some photos of the amuse hosted!

Adam
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Post by: Jap GT300 on June 9, 2004, 09:56
Also.....   w www.zees.co.jp (http://www.zees.co.jp) w

Hows your japanese?

You need to go to the bottom tab under Zees Lineup


(http://www.zees.co.jp/zees/images/cyber_ex_photo01.jpg)
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Post by: mph on June 9, 2004, 14:51
It may well be as cheap to get one locally custom made as to ship one in.

The price I paid for mine to be custom built to spec in stainless was comparable to the TTE exhaust, and that included making the wastegate collection & flange to mate directly to the turbo.
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Post by: Tem on June 9, 2004, 22:07
Quote from: "mph"It may well be as cheap to get one locally custom made as to ship one in.

It would be cheaper...local racing shop can do a manifold AND full exhaust for 300 euros...bloody good place, but they are booked full to the end of September  s:? :? s:?

Same with most local places now that the racing season has begun...
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Post by: Anonymous on June 9, 2004, 23:30
Quote from: "Tem"
Quote from: "143hawaii"You might want to try and contact Japanparts.com.  Even though they didn't list Ricoh Racing's exhaust, I was still able to get it through them.  The downside was I ended up waiting about 2-3 months after I paid to get it.

Oh...I guess I'll mail Graham then. Remember how much it was?

I don't remember exactly (the quote was in yen and the exchange rate has changed since then) but it's around $400 + shipping from Japan.  There are a couple variations, single or dual, mild steel or stainless.  The construction is outstanding!  I could only dream of any local exhaust shop being able to put together something with that quality.  While it's perfect for any turbo application, it's definitely not necessary.  I sold my Ricoh exhaust to "SpoiledBoi" who's NA and loves it.
Title: PPE???
Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2004, 22:03
If you haven't allready heard many Spyder's here in the US (me included) are running headers and straight pipe from a company in Arizona called PPE Engineering.  I'm not affiliated, I just think they have a good product.  

http://www.ppeengineering.com/

Jap GT300: Did you say you have a stock cat for sale?  I live in California and need to get my SMOG certification soon.  Any idea what shipping to the US is like?
Title: CAT
Post by: Jap GT300 on June 10, 2004, 22:17
QuoteJap GT300: Did you say you have a stock cat for sale? I live in California and need to get my SMOG certification soon. Any idea what shipping to the US is like?

Whats your address?  I'll send you a quote.

Thanks Adam
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Post by: Anonymous on June 10, 2004, 22:56
Address:

126 E. 18th St.
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
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Post by: Tem on June 11, 2004, 06:43
Yeah, I know PPE. I don't like it cause it doesn't mate with the stock manifold-pipe -seam.
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Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2004, 13:47
I bought a used cat for $80 (USD) and plan to have someone weld in a straight pipe in place of the cat.
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Post by: Anonymous on June 11, 2004, 22:26
Not sure what your intentions are (turbo/NA) but I was suggesting a new exhaust manifold (header) and straight pipe.  It puts 11 hp to the wheels.  If you were looking to save money I would go with Beanie's sugestion.
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Post by: Tem on June 12, 2004, 00:14
Quote from: "Drifter"Not sure what your intentions are (turbo/NA)

That's the problem, I'm not sure either...that's one of the reasons I'm not getting a header at least for now. But an exhaust that bolts to stock manifold will also bolt to possible future NA header of turbokit...
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Post by: Anonymous on July 7, 2004, 23:12
i thought the PPE header with high flow cat and PPe header with downpipe is a direct bolt on? thats what the PPE salesman told me.
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Post by: Tem on July 8, 2004, 07:04
Quote from: "sonar"i thought the PPE header with high flow cat and PPe header with downpipe is a direct bolt on? thats what the PPE salesman told me.

It is.

But the header itself doesn't bolt to the stock cat/downpipe. You need the PPE cat/downpipe, which do bolt to the stock muffler.