Hi Folks,
Can anyone let me know where I can get a 3 x gauge pod that will fit the centre/top storage compartment lid. I believe its a subaru item? Closest I've seen on ebay is this one;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390477763724?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_673wt_1018
Not the same but might work?
Second I have a 60mm boost gauge and was going to add oil temp and pressure. I have no idea how to fit the sender units though. I dont want to have to drill or fabricate anything in the engine. Anyone know of/installed oil temp/pressure without major hassle? I heard of some that use a fitting that sits between the oil filter and engine?
Thanks David
Im not sure about the gauge pod as mine is a pillar pod.
However you need a sandwich plate for the feeds for the Oil pressure and Oil temperture. You can pick them up from ebay. It sits between the oil filter.
One like this...
(http://image.dhgate.com/albu_345917060_00-1.0x0/new-arrival-aluminum-racing-sport-oil-filter.jpg)
Ive read a few people mentioning issues of them leaking so i got a named brand which was a bit more expensive. Im not sure if it really makes a difference though.
I have disturbed mine recently and ive got a bit i weepage. The pain with them is that you cant really tighten them up without removing the oil filter whereas you'll lose most your oil. Im going to be doing an oil change this weekend and hopefull that should sort things out
Quote from: "nathanMR2"However you need a sandwich plate for the feeds for the Oil pressure and Oil temperture.
That's what I have used. The sandwich plate for my turbo oil feed had places to screw the sensor in to.
As for the cabling, mine runs in to the car through the grommets and down the side, then up into the central gauge pod:
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Purchased from Spyderchat, originally a luxuryparts item if I recall correctly s:) :) s:)
Providing you have enough feeds for both senders you'll be ok. Some only come with 2, whereas mine came with 3. If you only have 2 holes on the sandwich plate and you're already using one for the oil feed you could struggle
Ah I see the plate is generic so it should work with any sender, clever. I should only need 2 x ports right as my TTE oil feed to the turbo is separate, it gets it from the sump IIRC.
Yes mate. The TTE takes the feed from above the oil filter so 2 should be fine. You then just need to tap into the pipe which feeds into the ECU in the drivers side bin. I added a T piece here for the boost pressure
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Yes mate. The TTE takes the feed from above the oil filter so 2 should be fine. You then just need to tap into the pipe which feeds into the ECU in the drivers side bin. I added a T piece here for the boost pressure
Yeah I've done that already. I have the boost gauge running in a single pod for now. It reads 10PSI on full wack much like yours does.
Did you sort out your boost issues?
Quote from: "nathanMR2"Did you sort out your boost issues?
Nope the TTE is not adjustable (or mine isn't anyway) I'm not sure I've got a boost issue either really. The gauge reads 9 to 10psi but so does yours and yours is fine. Its probably more likely these gauges are not accurate at such low boost. I do know my MAF is duff, thats the next thing to sort out but at £120 for a new denso sensor its sickening. I tried a copy ebay one but they dont like turbo's it seems.
That pretty much sucks.
I don't suppose the maf is helping. Have you had chance to try anyone else's to see if that helps?
** Thread Update **
I have the 3 gauge pod fitted now, with my boost gauge wired in. The pod doesn't exactly look OEM but its not too bad until I can get something better.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/TRIPLE-3-GAUGE-POD-60mm-ASTRA-CORSA-VECTRA-CALIBRA-/00/$(KGrHqZ,!hYE2fDU5H2HBNp3N3Bn)!~~0_12.JPG)
Have these on order;
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-60mm-Stealth-Blue-Red-LCD-Digital-Oil-Temperature-Gauge-Evo-Subaru-Nissan-/00/s/Mzg1WDQ2MQ==/$T2eC16FHJGoE9nuQeW8JBQRhM+3g0Q~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-60mm-Stealth-Blue-Red-LCD-Digital-Oil-Pressure-Gauge-Evo-Subaru-Nissan-/00/s/Mzg1WDQ0Mg==/$T2eC16VHJGwE9n)yTd2EBQRfve1Iig~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Sandwich-Plate-Adaptor-Oil-Temperature-Pressure-For-Toyota-Celica-Starlet-Supra-/00/s/NTAwWDUwMA==/$(KGrHqJHJCgFChYviCDYBQvNDHrI,w~~60_12.JPG)
The cars due an oil change so will kill two birds with one stone and fit the sensor plate during the oil change.
Also with a bit of luck will have "Mel's MAF" going in to replace my iffy one. Which should hopefully make it run better.
Got any pictures of the final install Stargazer? I've got 3 gauges and an almost identical pod (albeit just in back not carbon effect) to fit this week hopefully.
Quote from: "mr-ed_smt"Got any pictures of the final install Stargazer? I've got 3 gauges and an almost identical pod (albeit just in back not carbon effect) to fit this week hopefully.
Where did you get the black pod from? I wanted black but could only find stock of the carbon effect ones. It does kinda go with the dotty trim on the MR2?!
Not final pics but work in progress s:D :D s:D
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/dashpod2.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/dashpod1.jpg)
Thanks - looks good, exactly how I'd imagined. Loads of black triple gauge pods on eBay! How did you run the wires and tubes - through the bulkhead and under the carpet or under the car and then up under the dash?
Quote from: "mr-ed_smt"Thanks - looks good, exactly how I'd imagined. Loads of black triple gauge pods on eBay! How did you run the wires and tubes - through the bulkhead and under the carpet or under the car and then up under the dash?
No tubes, I used an electronic boost gauge. It has its own MAP sensor which is plumbed in at the same point as the toyota MAP my TTE turbo uses. So whatever toyota's ECU sees my gauge sees the same.
So its a straight run of 3 wires from the rear passenger side bin (thats where the wiring comes in from the engine bay), across the back, down the drivers side, under the steering column and then up under the dash where the pod is. Thats an easy route as the trims just clip off and the existing stock wiring provides an anchor to zip tie the new wiring to. Only took an hour and a half to do it.
Oil pressure and temp sensors and gauges arrived today. Need a little help.
The Oil pressure sender is pretty big, about 48mm diameter. The sandwich plate it screws into is smaller about 30mm thick. Does anyone know if the engine where the oil filter screws onto is flat or if that section protrudes any? If its flat I am stuck as the oil pressure sensor won't fit due to the extra width.
On the plus side the gauges do look very snazzy.
It does protrude but if the thread is bigger than the hole in the sandwich plate I'm not sure how its going to fit. Unless you mean something else.
Maybe you can upload pictures of the sender and plate
Quote from: "nathanMR2"It does protrude but if the thread is bigger than the hole in the sandwich plate I'm not sure how its going to fit. Unless you mean something else.
Maybe you can upload pictures of the sender and plate
The thread size is fine, the pic below shows it better.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/sandwichplate.jpg)
As you can see the oil pressure sensor is thicker than the sandwich plate. So if the mount point on the engine is totally flat (like my work surface in the pic) its not going to fit.
It is a bigun. But there should be enough space for it to fit, there's a fair bit up there. Best thing to do is get your head up there and take a look s;) ;) s;)
A bit late now but I used one of these instead of a sandwich plate when fitting my oil pressure gauge and it works just fine.
m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OIL-GAUGE-FIT ... 1e7c977ed3 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OIL-GAUGE-FITTING-T-PIECE-1-8BSPT-FIT-HONDA-TOYOTA-/130939322067?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e7c977ed3) m
On the pod, I think it looks better if you cut the skirt off it and shape what's left to bond it to the lid. It stands a bit tall otherwise. IMHO.
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6109/1004419.jpg)
Looks goods - are those 52 or 60mm gauges?
60s in a 52 fleabay triple pod
Yeah I'm not too chuffed on my pod. It will do for now.
I found this one on the bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-TRIPLE-60mm-3-GAUGE-CENTER-METER-DASH-PILLAR-POD-/321005476663?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4abd6adb37
But its slightly too wide. I am thinking to taking a gamble seeing if I can cut it down and bond it to the lid.
That's the one I wanted, but I'm too impatient to wait for it from Taiwan s:oops: :oops: s:oops: ! I think its the same one that this chap has used: l viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39739&p=472789&hilit=gauges#p472789 (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39739&p=472789&hilit=gauges#p472789) l but trimmed to fit, and blended with the dash??
Well did my first DIY oil change in years today and fitted the oil pressure and temp sensors.
First job prepare the sensors and plate. I used heat proof braid (off ebay) to protect the wiring in the engine bay.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/sensors2.jpg)
Then jack up the driver side, remove the under tray off the car, and carry out the normal steps for doing an oil change. ie drain out oil from sump and remove oil filter. The sensor plate screws onto where the oil filter goes, then the new filter screws onto the sensor plate.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/sensors_fitted.jpg)
I ran the wiring along the underside of the car to the passenger side then up the engine bay and into the passenger side bin gromet. 3 Wires (next to the large red wire off my amp in the pic). Ground (blue) and sensor (red) for the temp, and just the one wire (black) for the oil pressure sensor.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/wiring_entry.jpg)
Heres the boost sensor tapped off the TTE MAP sensor and ECU, I did a few weeks back.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/boost_sensor.jpg)
The 3 sensor wires run across the driver side bin and along the driver side sill to the gauges.
The sensors work well but I have one problem to solve. I have an oil leak which looks like its comming off the oil temp sensor. I need to get a 10mm spanner to tighten it up see if it cures it. I have an adjustable spanner but I can't get enough torque on it without it slipping. Can you buy any sort of heat proof thread seal for problems like this?
I've used Granville 'blue' gasket sealant on a number of occasions, resistant to all fuels, withstands high temps. and suitable for metal to metal joints'
m http://www.granvilleoil.com/product_info.php?prod_id=51 (http://www.granvilleoil.com/product_info.php?prod_id=51) m
I'm sure there are other products out there.
Quote from: "mrzwei"I've used Granville 'blue' gasket sealant on a number of occasions, resistant to all fuels, withstands high temps. and suitable for metal to metal joints'
m http://www.granvilleoil.com/product_info.php?prod_id=51 (http://www.granvilleoil.com/product_info.php?prod_id=51) m
I'm sure there are other products out there.
Do I have to slacken the sensor to use this and put it on the thread? Its as tight as **** to the point where I rounded it off a bit. Still weaping when the engine runs s:cry: :cry: s:cry: Or can I put it round the exposed thread at the joint and still stop it.
Ideally you would have to slacken the thread, I don't think it will work as a filler on the outside.
It is designed for use during assembly really as surfaces should be dry.
Quote from: "mrzwei"Ideally you would have to slacken the thread, I don't think it will work as a filler on the outside.
It is designed for use during assembly really as surfaces should be dry.
I tried it on the edge and your right its not working. DAMN!!!! So now I have to drain off brand new oil just to take the plate off so I can seal it. s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:( s:( :( s:(
Been reading up and apparently you're supposed to use PTFE tape on the threads (like plumbing) Whoops! So things that have me worried now;
Once the plate comes off will the rubber seal still work as its been compressed once, do I need a new plate?
Should I used PTFE tape or use the gasket sealer?
You can reuse the oil - just make sure you drain it into something clean. Shouldn't be too difficult to drain it off and refit the sensor?
Useful write-up by the way, thanks.
Right, what a pita that job was. Oil drained off, filter off, plate off and sensors out. Cleaned it all down and used liquid gasket on the threads. Put it all back together again, refilled it with oil and no more leak on the plate or sensors s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
So big watchout for any one doing this job, put liquid gasket on the sensor and bung threads!
Right its took a month to get it from overseas but the new dash pod arrived this week from eBay. Much better looking than the UK carbon fibre ones I got first off and almost a direct fit to replace the centre lid once I dremelled off the lip around the edge. This is still a work in progress as I need some trim to cover the front and some black foam or the like maybe at the back.
Excuse the crappy phone pics, I'll do better ones once its done properly s:mrgreen: :mrgreen: s:mrgreen:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/IMAG0023.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/m03ppz00/Blue%20MR2/IMAG0022.jpg)
Looks good mate s:) :) s:)
Which sandwich plate did you use? I'm looking to do some thing similar
This might be of interest, MWR now make a pod : m http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/produ ... ts_id=2362 (http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/product_info.php?products_id=2362) m
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Do they only cater for the left hand drive positioning?
I'm going to email them and ask actually
LHD only - sorry s:( :( s:(
Ah, looks like we need someone to get inventive on here, and design something similar for us.
Yes indeed. I'm toying with the idea of trying myself. I've got a spare lid and might buy a pod to try and bled it in.