Hi all,
My car is going back into the garage tomorrow, so i've created a 'Jacking Procedure Guide' for the garage and / or local tyre fitter.
As you may know, my car was damaged by jacking the car up on the rear wing, so I'm not keen for it to happen again.
As I hate explaining it to the service girl (while she looks at me with a blank expression), I've created a JPEG MR2 Bulletin for the correct jacking procedures and also included a few photos to help explain the consequences.
Can one of the admin team please PM me with there e-mail address and I will send them the file for posting in this thread.
cheers,
Puggman
I'm no admin, but if you bung the file over to e
aaron@mind-design.co.uk e , I'll host it & post it for you.
Aaron
I have a label maker at work that I use to print "DO NOT LIFT HERE" stickers that I then stick under the relevent panels....
Quote from: "aaronjb"I'm no admin, but if you bung the file over to e aaron@mind-design.co.uk e , I'll host it & post it for you.
Aaron
I've e-mailed it to you.
cheers,
Puggman
Okedoke, jacking guide received and hosted s:) :) s:)
(images linked as they're sized for printing, so quite large)
http://www.mindserv.co.uk/mr2-images/MR2-ROC_Jacking_Guide_1.jpg (small version)
http://www.mindserv.co.uk/mr2-images/MR2-ROC_Jacking_Guide.jpg (large version)
http://www.mindserv.co.uk/mr2-images/lift_points.jpg (jacking diagram)
s:) :) s:)
Can anyone actually lift the car from the front jack position? s:o :o s:o
Quote from: "Tem"Can anyone actually lift the car from the front jack position? s:o :o s:o
I do. Theres a "Horse-shoe" shaped location marker in the underbody plastics, place your trolley jack on this and you are lifting on the front suspension member.
Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Tem"Can anyone actually lift the car from the front jack position? s:o :o s:o
I do. Theres a "Horse-shoe" shaped location marker in the underbody plastics, place your trolley jack on this and you are lifting on the front suspension member.
Ditto!
I was a little worried at first that I might damage the plastic / that the jacking points on pdf that I'd got (see here! (http://spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=6278))were wrong!
But alas there's no marks / it's not lying - front suspension member as GSB said s:D :D s:D
There's no substitute for a trolley jack if you need to put the car on jack stands - and a lot of work on the Spyder requires jack stands. When I tried to use the emergency jack to accomplish the job, I was able to manage it, but just barely and with many moments of grave concern.
The best procedure I've come up with is to set the brake, put the car in gear, chock the rear wheels, lift the front at the "horseshoe" indentation, and set stands under the side front lift points. Then repeat the process at the rear of the car. With practice, it doesn't take long.
Thanks to all the write-ups online, I've found it's always important to explain the lift points to the mechanic when taking the car to a garage for service.
Quote from: "southerneditor"set stands under the side front lift points. Then repeat the process at the rear of the car. .
Just to confirm..does this mean you can put axle stands onto the jacking points on all 4 corners or should axle stands be confined to the axles?
Jack stands (axle stands?) of the 2-ton variety fit nicely under the side panel jacking points. I fold up a pair of shop towels into a rectangular pad and place them atop each stand for added safety against marring and to get a more secure fit. Got the idea from looking at photos of other Spyders "up in the air."
Quote from: "roger"Just to confirm..does this mean you can put axle stands onto the jacking points on all 4 corners or should axle stands be confined to the axles?
As others have said, on the side jacking points - on a modern day car you almost certainly
don't want to put axle stands under the axles (or driveshafts/stub axles as we have now) - you'd snap them and end up with your car on the ground..
In the days of cars with huge great live rear axles, axles stands went under the axles (or more specifically, the axle tubes) s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "southerneditor"There's no substitute for a trolley jack if you need to put the car on jack stands - and a lot of work on the Spyder requires jack stands. When I tried to use the emergency jack to accomplish the job, I was able to manage it, but just barely and with many moments of grave concern.
The best procedure I've come up with is to set the brake, put the car in gear, chock the rear wheels, lift the front at the "horseshoe" indentation, and set stands under the side front lift points. Then repeat the process at the rear of the car. With practice, it doesn't take long.
Thanks to all the write-ups online, I've found it's always important to explain the lift points to the mechanic when taking the car to a garage for service.
until you lower it of course and then you'll be very lucky to find a trolley jack that will fit under there.
Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Tem"Can anyone actually lift the car from the front jack position? s:o :o s:o
I do. Theres a "Horse-shoe" shaped location marker in the underbody plastics, place your trolley jack on this and you are lifting on the front suspension member.
I meant I can't fit anything down there s:oops: :oops: s:oops: I have to drive the car on 2" thick wooden blocks before I can get the jack in there s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "Tem"Quote from: "GSB"Quote from: "Tem"Can anyone actually lift the car from the front jack position? s:o :o s:o
I do. Theres a "Horse-shoe" shaped location marker in the underbody plastics, place your trolley jack on this and you are lifting on the front suspension member.
I meant I can't fit anything down there s:oops: :oops: s:oops: I have to drive the car on 2" thick wooden blocks before I can get the jack in there s:? :? s:?
Ahh, is your car lowered?
Quote from: "GSB"Ahh, is your car lowered?
Just with the Sportivo, it shouldn't be that much, should it? s:? :? s:?
I even bought the lowest trolley jack I could find and removed the spinning plate from it for extra 1/2", but still no...
(that was before the Stage1 bodykit, now I'm now even trying)
I also hjave teh sportivo and exactly the saem issue. that was one reason for the inspection pit.
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Quote from: "markiii"I also hjave the sportivo and exactly the saem issue. that was one reason for the inspection pit.
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Same here. Could just about reach the front jacking point before I fitted the Sportivo springs (-25mm at the front -15mm at rear). I use two thick planks of wood under the front wheels ... works fine for the trolley jack.
Coming back to the main thread, I am not surprised that mechanics can jack up the car in the wrong place. After all, the jacking points at the rear are pretty far forward.
However, I am very surprised that a mechanic working in a TOYOTA garage can screw up something as basic as jacking up a car! Scary!!
I find, "Not there pillock" is a great help.
Quote from: "Hunsch"I find, "Not there pillock" is a great help.
Brilliant!
Why would you produce a guide to help a garage steal your car s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Seriously. having seen the damage at the NW meet I would advice people to use it.