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The Workshop => Audio / Security / Electrical => Topic started by: kanujunkie on November 11, 2004, 10:00

Title: ipod connector
Post by: kanujunkie on November 11, 2004, 10:00
would this work with the stock radio?

http://www.caraudiodiscount.com/acatalog/Product_Toyota_571.html
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Post by: markiii on November 11, 2004, 10:15
I doubt it, as the US head unit is different,  plus teh UK is made by Matsuhita so a Fujitsu changer wouldn't work.
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Post by: kanujunkie on November 11, 2004, 10:28
cheers Mark,

it was only a chance, i thought it may fit as it said it fits a Rav4 and i thought theirs was the same as the fischer-price unit
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Post by: Darth Paul on November 11, 2004, 12:34
Possibly would, but it's nearly £200!  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

Try this (my Xmas pressie... hopefully)

http://www.ghc.co.uk/acatalog/ICE_Link_Car_Connectors_for_iPod.html

Seems exactly the same for ALOT LESS dosh.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: kanujunkie on November 11, 2004, 14:20
agreed  s:D :D s:D  thanx for the tip

but will it work with the fischer price h/u
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Post by: Darth Paul on November 18, 2004, 09:51
Going back to this... those of you with the post 02 Fisher Price head unit might find this useful.

http://www.ghc.co.uk/acatalog/ICE_Link_Car_Connectors_for_iPod.html

To quote the site:

ice>Link:iPod Car Side Connection for Toyota (Stock Code -1546)
Tight integration of the Apple iPod and iPod mini with your vehicle.
This version of Dension ice>Link:iPod is compatible with all head units used in the Yaris, Corolla, Avensis, Picnic and RAV4 that utilise a Fujitsu Ten autochanger, and is the ultimate car kit for your iPod or iPod Mini.
Available for all Apple iPods from the original 5GB model right through to the very latest iPod mini. If your iPod has a dock connector, you can use the attractive Dension-designed active cradles, or, if you prefer to leave your iPod in a protective case, a cabled connection to the dock connector is also available. A remote control connector cable is available for 1st and 2nd generation iPods (select your connection from the options below).
ice>Link:iPod routes iPod audio through the CD changer port and translates head unit key presses into remote control commands for the iPod giving access to FF/RW as if the iPod was an integrated component of your car stereo.
Self installation or fitting service available through Car Phone Warehouse or UniCar (click links for details).
Please note: To avoid compatibility issues, please enter the Make, Model and Year of your vehicle, plus the make and model of your stereo head unit, in the special instructions field when ordering on-line.
 
Back to main ice>Link page...
Price:   £110.00 £129.25 Including VAT at 17.5%
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Post by: markiii on November 18, 2004, 16:00
but the post 02 doesn't use a fujitsu changer!
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Post by: Darth Paul on November 18, 2004, 16:28
I just assumed that as Toyota no longer use Sony, then this must be the new h/u.
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Post by: SteveJ on November 18, 2004, 16:53
Quote from: "Darth Paul"I just assumed that as Toyota no longer use Sony, then this must be the new h/u.

It IS the same HU used in the Yaris / Avensis etc - IIRC the SatNav module is the same as the one in the other cars too.
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Post by: markiii on November 18, 2004, 17:00
it's a matsushita head unit.

It may work work with a fujitsu changer but I'd expect it to be Panasonic
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Post by: Anonymous on November 25, 2004, 07:00
Sorry to resurect this one, but those IceLink cables suggest they work just fine with Sony headunits, as in pre-03 ones (like mine).  Anyone any experience, or know whether they're likely to work or not?
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Post by: Darth Paul on November 25, 2004, 18:42
Quote from: "phil4"Sorry to resurect this one, but those IceLink cables suggest they work just fine with Sony headunits, as in pre-03 ones (like mine).  Anyone any experience, or know whether they're likely to work or not?

Hope so, as my wife has got me one for Christmas...  s:? :? s:?   But I won't know whether it works till after Christmas.  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on November 26, 2004, 10:34
We could both be in the same boat then  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2004, 16:32
Denison have just brought out a new version of the Icelink.... Icelink Plus, that allows amongst other things, song titles to display on head unit.

http://www.ghc.co.uk/acatalog/ice_Link_Plus_Car_Connectors_for_iPod.html

Still no idea if this will work on Pre-03 Sony headunits, as haven't tried.
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Post by: Darth Paul on December 11, 2004, 13:12
Bloody typical!  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:   I'll have to see if Bev can send mine back...
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Post by: crankshaft on December 11, 2004, 13:38
Quote from: "phil4"Sorry to resurect this one, but those IceLink cables suggest they work just fine with Sony headunits, as in pre-03 ones (like mine).  Anyone any experience, or know whether they're likely to work or not?

Well I won't bet my life on it, but (unlike the Alpine) sony have always used their 'Unilink' protocol for comms between devices, so almost certainly whatever Sony head unit you have will work.

Alpine changed to the AiBus from Mbus and there's no compatability at all between them.

Cheers

Crankshaft
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Post by: Darth Paul on December 14, 2004, 12:48
As the Ice Link only has a 90 day (faulty) return policy and as it was sat in Bev's wardrobe, yet to be wrapped for Christmas, she decided to let me install it.

Took ages.  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  There is NO room in the passenger footwell! That is the side that the autochanger port is on. My back is killing me now.  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:   The two phono sockets are on the driver's side of the H/U and are a little more accessible.

Still, I succeeded in plugging the bloody things in, and, IT WORKS!!  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:   It's ace! I've yet to mount the active cradle (will do tonight at home) but it's sooooo nice to be rid of the iTrip. (The iTrip was good for what it was, but it had many drawbacks – aerial always up   s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  , hissing sound quality, mobile phone interference, and de-tuning as you move about the country.)

Now I have volume control, ff/rr function and skip function – all via the stalk on the steering column. I still need to access the iPod for album/playlist choosing. I've just emailed Denison to see if there is a way to upgrade to the Ice Link Plus. I wait for a reply.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 15, 2004, 07:08
That's good to hear.  I hope Denison are accomodating.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 30, 2004, 19:08
FWIW at present the IceLink Plus will not feedback mp3 titles to the Sony head unit.   Dension state they only support a couple of headunits at the moment.
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Post by: Anonymous on January 11, 2005, 13:20
Not sure if you guys are still interested in this but I have just found a news article about an iPod connector that goes into the tape deck.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/11/griffin_smartdeck/

Not actually on the market yet but they think it will be available by Q2 this year. You can get more info from:

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/smartdeck/index.php
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Post by: Slacey on January 11, 2005, 16:51
I installed my ice>link at the weekend and it took in total about half an hour (including the cradle), but I have a single DIN aftermarket Sony, so access was a breeze - I didn't even have to remove any plastic parts.

As Paul said above, sound quality is faultless, and I can control it with my Sony card remote  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Darth Paul on January 11, 2005, 17:25
Quote from: "Slacey"I installed my ice>link at the weekend and it took in total about half an hour (including the cradle), but I have a single DIN aftermarket Sony, so access was a breeze - I didn't even have to remove any plastic parts.

As Paul said above, sound quality is faultless, and I can control it with my Sony card remote  s:) :) s:)

I had problem with mine the other night... or so I thought. I'd just installed the Focals the weekend before, and coming out of the cinema I put the iPod in the cradle and put the music on. No sound from my door!  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:   Only the speakers in the passenger door were working. I turned the music off in disgust and thought about what a ball-ache removing the door card would be....

Next day (in the light) I noticed that the iPod wasn't completely seated in the cradle. So I pushed it in, turned the sounds on, and voila! Stereo service had been resumed!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

So watch for this one – push the bugger in properly!
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Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2005, 20:21
They are really good.  I didn't read the installation instructions, so did plenty of stuff either in the wrong order or when I shouldn't have.  And it all still works (miracle).  

That said the IceLink Plus still seems to be at an early stage of Dev, with them squashing bugs with new firmware quite often, and plenty of strange behaviour, problems with installs and limited support for text display.

For what it's worth you'll find a support forum for it over at:

http://support.dension.com/forum
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Post by: kanujunkie on January 13, 2005, 20:47
my ma and pa have bought me the Alpine/Ipod connector for my birthday on sunday, and with the alpine headunit the wifes bought me and the 700w(rms) of amps(3) to the 11 speakers, this is going to sound like the doggies doodahs!!, problem is i'm gonna need a very big shoehorn for all this gear.  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: so.simple on January 14, 2005, 00:54
Quote from: "kanujunkie"11 speakers
s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:    s:shock: :shock: s:shock:   and   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  
I am speechless.   s:) :) s:)
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Post by: kanujunkie on January 14, 2005, 08:58
ok i slightly lied, some are individual speakers with dual cones, you know the ones that have a midrange speaker with a smaller tweeter unit mounted on the same core. Should sound the dog's when i finnish putting it all in, there's a lot of wiring to go yet though.


THIS IS MY 1000 POST!! YIPPEEEEE  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: Tem on January 14, 2005, 09:20
Quote from: "kanujunkie"i finnish

Nice to meet you, I thought I'm the only finnish around here  s;) ;) s;)


QuoteTHIS IS MY 1000 POST!! YIPPEEEEE  s:D :D s:D

...newbies  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: kanujunkie on January 14, 2005, 09:26
 s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2005, 19:13
Possibly a daft question, but when you refer to an ipod, do you specifcally mean the Apple ipod or MP3 players generally?
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Post by: Slacey on January 25, 2005, 19:15
In the case of this thread, the Apple iPod specifically.
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Post by: Darth Paul on January 26, 2005, 09:15
We're in the process of buying a new Volvo S40 (the C-Max is history) and Denison don't support this car yet. Apparently they're testing on it early this year... we shall see. So it means that the beautiful aluminium 'floating' centre console will have to have wires trailed all over it, as well as the iPod holder stuffed into a cup holder.  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: kanujunkie on January 26, 2005, 10:00
Darth,

go for the Alpine H/U with there ipod link, its the doggies and has loadsa flashing lights  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

no really is good and allows you to search by file/album/playlist/song, it's a really well built piece of kit
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Post by: Hope4Sun on January 26, 2005, 10:10
Quote from: "kanujunkie"go for the Alpine H/U with there ipod link, its the doggies and has loadsa flashing lights  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

Thats what i'm fitting this weekend  s;) ;) s;)  (if i get the time   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  )

Andy
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Post by: kanujunkie on January 26, 2005, 10:19
you'll love it Andy, fitted mine in the week and apart from a software issue, no probs.

Make sure you have the latest software on your ipod or it won't work

Which H/U did you go for?
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Post by: Darth Paul on January 26, 2005, 11:08
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Darth,

go for the Alpine H/U with there ipod link, its the doggies and has loadsa flashing lights  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

no really is good and allows you to search by file/album/playlist/song, it's a really well built piece of kit

It already has an integrated headunit...

(http://www.km77.com/marcas/volvo/s40_04/0primera/med/99.jpg)

So that's not an option.  s:( :( s:(
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Post by: Anonymous on January 27, 2005, 06:56
Dension have closed their support forum with immediate effect.  Their reason is that the support issues raised are better dealt with via support tickets/self-help etc.

My guess, having seen the forums of late is that they're extremely embarrased by the number of problems people are having with the icelink-plus, and would rather the forum wasn't associated with them (as in on their site etc.).

From 1st Feb, there'll be a new place at http://www.hackmycar.com run by someone else, perhaps filling the gap.  The reason for closing the old forum before the new one is open strongly suggets embarrasment, and is perhaps a way of "calming" a few pissed off users.

You can read their message in full at: http://support.dension.com/forum/