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The Workshop => Performance Related => Topic started by: LeeUK on November 30, 2004, 22:35

Title: Pictures of fitted TRD front strut brace
Post by: LeeUK on November 30, 2004, 22:35
As titled!  I used some door edging strip from halfords, with a little help from a hot air gun I got a real neat finish!

(http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/strutb1.jpg)

(http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/strutb2.jpg)

(http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/strutb3.jpg)

(http://www.spydermagazine.com/files/strutb4.jpg)
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Post by: Bongo on November 30, 2004, 22:38
Looks awesome man...

Roll on April   s:( :( s:(
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Post by: Anonymous on November 30, 2004, 22:46
Nice work Lee, that looks a hell of a lot better with that strip around!



BTW, any chance of borrowing that hot air gun at all? I've got some chrome edging stuff I've got plans for, but the glue on it is desperate for some heat to make it stick. I'd use a hairdryer, but since the missus left and took it with her, that could prove problematic...   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: so.simple on December 1, 2004, 12:33
Looks awesome. I've been thinking about one myself but am still curious about what happens when it rains. In the owners manual, there is a warning about the possibility of objects stored in the bin getting wet, and that is with the bin lid on. What is your experience?
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Post by: mph on December 1, 2004, 12:40
Quote from: "so.simple"I've been thinking about one myself but am still curious about what happens when it rains. In the owners manual, there is a warning about the possibility of objects stored in the bin getting wet, and that is with the bin lid on. What is your experience?
I haven't had the bin lid cover on for years. Never ever had anything get wet in there.
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Post by: so.simple on December 1, 2004, 12:43
Quote from: "mph"I haven't had the bin lid cover on for years. Never ever had anything get wet in there.
Thanks for the info.
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Post by: Tem on December 1, 2004, 12:46
It doesn't get wet even after removing the plastic cover...
(I don't mean the lid, but the one that covers the strut tops etc)
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Post by: so.simple on December 1, 2004, 13:06
If it is ok for Finland and the UK, it surely will be ok for Portugal.   s:D :D s:D    s8) 8) s8)
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Post by: Anonymous on December 1, 2004, 13:37
Here in the states we don't have that container off to the left (what is that thing?) and so my TRD STB doesn't have that cutout.  That's something to keep in mind if you see one for sale in the US.  I think my frunk is more centered, too.
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Post by: roger on December 1, 2004, 13:55
Nice fitting Lee. Just one question, where did you put the clear spirally plastic thingy. Around the screen wash pipe was the last thought - did you find anywhere else?

A warning to other potential fitters:

Unfortunately when I did mine I cut some plastic from the windscreen motor "bump" (just behind the TRD sticker), but when the bar was fully bolted in position, it didn't need as much cut out (if any at all) as I had done. So I have a little black hole through which I can see some wires.

I tidied it up with door edging, but am thinking of adding some sort of "blanking plate" to disguise it more.

roger

PS I got some soft rubbery pre glued door edging from Motorists Centre that easily took the curves, so no need for heat guns. IMO it looks just as good, though is perhaps slightly smaller in size.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 1, 2004, 14:08
Quote from: "Beanie"Here in the states we don't have that container off to the left (what is that thing?) and so my TRD STB doesn't have that cutout.  That's something to keep in mind if you see one for sale in the US.  I think my frunk is more centered, too.

Right hand driving car in UK! it's the steering fluid.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 1, 2004, 17:53
Good job Lee, now I'll have to do the same afetr seeing how much better finished it looks.  s:P :P s:P
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Post by: Anonymous on December 1, 2004, 17:57
Quote from: "roger"Nice fitting Lee. Just one question, where did you put the clear spirally plastic thingy. Around the screen wash pipe was the last thought - did you find anywhere else?

A warning to other potential fitters:

Unfortunately when I did mine I cut some plastic from the windscreen motor "bump" (just behind the TRD sticker), but when the bar was fully bolted in position, it didn't need as much cut out (if any at all) as I had done. So I have a little black hole through which I can see some wires.

I tidied it up with door edging, but am thinking of adding some sort of "blanking plate" to disguise it more.

roger

PS I got some soft rubbery pre glued door edging from Motorists Centre that easily took the curves, so no need for heat guns. IMO it looks just as good, though is perhaps slightly smaller in size.

Roger,

I've lloked at the spiral thingy and I just can't see the point in sticking round the screenwash pipe - I've stuck mine around the winscreen wiper wires that are exposed when you cut the rectangular bump out. I'd say there more chance of damage to these wires rubbing on the cut edge and possibly the brace itself than to the washer pipes. Anyway, if you edge any cut areas the chances are minimised and I guess it's down to personal preference.
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Post by: LeeUK on December 1, 2004, 23:22
Quote from: "RUSTY"I've lloked at the spiral thingy and I just can't see the point in sticking round the screenwash pipe - I've stuck mine around the winscreen wiper wires that are exposed when you cut the rectangular bump out. I'd say there more chance of damage to these wires rubbing on the cut edge and possibly the brace itself than to the washer pipes. Anyway, if you edge any cut areas the chances are minimised and I guess it's down to personal preference.

If memory serves me correctly this is what I too did.  Can't remember, must be gettting old!   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

Yeah, Dan you can borrow the hot air gun anytime, give me a ring at work and I'll sort it out for you.
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Post by: Anonymous on December 2, 2004, 07:48
Quote from: "Beanie"Here in the states we don't have that container off to the left (what is that thing?) and so my TRD STB doesn't have that cutout.  That's something to keep in mind if you see one for sale in the US.  I think my frunk is more centered, too.

there are two, the wiper fluid and the brake reservoirs.....c'mon beanie, you should know that!! and the u.s. STB is available with or without the cutout for the brake fluid.....from what i've seen, i think trd has stopped making them with that cutout......


what i want to know is, what's that blister/bulge next to the frunk??

kev
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Post by: Tem on December 2, 2004, 07:51
Quote from: "kulprit"i think trd has stopped making them with that cutout......

Maybe TRD USA has stopped importing them to US? It seems to be available over here and in Japan...
(though I wouldn't know for sure before ordering one)
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Post by: roger on December 2, 2004, 14:09
Quote from: "Tem"
Quote from: "kulprit"i think trd has stopped making them with that cutout......

Maybe TRD USA has stopped importing them to US? It seems to be available over here and in Japan...
(though I wouldn't know for sure before ordering one)

Both Lee and I bought these from TRD through Dieamond only a couple of months ago. So certainly they have not stopped making them. Obviously exports to US might be different.

roger
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Post by: Anonymous on December 3, 2004, 08:12
Quote from: "Tem"Maybe TRD USA has stopped importing them to US? It seems to be available over here and in Japan...
(though I wouldn't know for sure before ordering one)

that's exactly what i meant....my apologies for the confusion....

but, again, what is that squarish blister/bulge underneath the plastic?

kev
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Post by: Jap GT300 on December 3, 2004, 08:48
Quote from: "kulprit"but, again, what is that squarish blister/bulge underneath the plastic?

kev

That is our Power Steering unit.  We have to remove all the plastics to check the level or top it up  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on December 3, 2004, 09:08
that's horrid!!!  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:  

kev
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Post by: Anonymous on December 6, 2004, 00:05
I got rid of that ugly plastic cover as it was trapping sand and dirt between it and the strut towers and badly scratching the paint away.

Its sole purpose is to hide the (beautiful) mechanics underneath. Or maybe it's to prevent idiots from fiddling and breaking something there?   s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  

Anyway, I really hate this fashion of wanting to hide everything behind plastic covers... (ever checked a "modern" car lately? Makes you wonder whether the engine actually exists or is it too embarrassingly ugly or low tech to be exposed?)   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  

The lid over the bin however is useful, particulary at keeping dust and dirt out of the bin.

I wonder how many people still keep the spare wheel in there? I replaced it a long time ago with a puncture kit and compressor (like you get with the Lotus Elise and other sports cars) and found it to be a *relatively* good sized storage area (especially for trips).
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Post by: Anonymous on December 6, 2004, 00:31
I kept the bin, but ditched the spare, lid, and surrounding plastic.  This was before installing the TRD STB.
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Post by: Tem on December 6, 2004, 13:47
Quote from: "phat"Anyway, I really hate this fashion of wanting to hide everything behind plastic covers...

It does have one major bonus...you can pretty much swap any engine that fits under the covers and no one will ever notice it  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  That's pretty useful in countries, where any reasonable swaps are illegal  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  


QuoteI wonder how many people still keep the spare wheel in there?

Mine has been on and off...you lose quite a lot of grip from the front end when you remove it  s:? :? s:?
Title: TRD front strut brace
Post by: Anonymous on December 17, 2004, 23:45
Hello mate, how much was your strut brace and where did you get it from? As you may have heared my '2 exploded but im thinking aboiut the insurance payout.....!!
Think that steering / stopping mods should come before performance

any advice would be great

keith
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Post by: roger on December 18, 2004, 17:08
A cusco on e-bay for £105. I reckon thats a good price. Have to decide fairly quickly. There is also a rear one (well two of each infact so no squabling necessary).

I have the TRD and you have to lose the wheel lid, but I reckon you can still havee it with the cusco - somebody should be able to confirm.

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roger
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Post by: LeeUK on December 18, 2004, 17:13
I bought mine from dieamond @ http://www.mrs-passion.com

He's a very nice bloke to do business with and his prices are good too.  Blimey that don't half sound like a radio advert!   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

The braces are very good although like most parts for the "2", quite expensive.
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Post by: Ernie Ball on April 17, 2006, 19:49
Reviving this old topic to ask this question:

Did you all take off the under-bonnet plastic in order to cut it with a Dremel?  Or did you just Dremel it on the car?

Seems like it would be less hassle to do it while it's on the car.  And if you make sure the top of the brake fluid bottle goes in the cutout in the bar, you have a pretty good idea of where to cut the holes above the struts.
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Post by: LeeUK on April 17, 2006, 19:59
I took it off the car to cut as it's pretty straight forward.  Cut a small hole first to see where the hole lies in comparison with the strut first before cutting the final hole.
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Post by: jarod on April 18, 2006, 07:45
BTW, I too have a TRD front strut tower bar, and with a little modification you don't necessarily have to remove the plastic lid:

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  s8) 8) s8)   Claudio
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Post by: edward.carter on April 18, 2006, 09:13
i left all my plastic off, looks a mess in comparison but can always put the car back to normal when i sell the trd fsb
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Post by: Ernie Ball on April 18, 2006, 10:26
Quote from: "jarod"(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8417/dscn50739fc.jpg)

Wonder why the bar on your LHD car is able to go directly over the brake fluid container (I assume) without the need for a cutout....  Hmmmm.

So did you cut the plastic over the struts while it was still on the car?
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Post by: mg on April 18, 2006, 10:35
The best way I found was to remove the plastic and as suggested above, cut guide holes centred on the half moon ridge in the plastic (this is the true centre of the strut mount.)  Then mark and cut carefully the outline of the brace.  Cut less that you think as the plastic sits proud of the bar and will look better with smaller gaps.

As for the frunk lid, I simply cut it and added a rubber bead to the lid.  The front clasp buckles on the lid hold it down with no problem.

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Post by: Ernie Ball on April 18, 2006, 13:03
OK, I've got the plastics out for cutting.

Quick question: the stuff underneath the plastic is really quite filthy.  How would you clean under there?  If I take the pressure washer to it, any danger that I'll damage some electrics?
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Post by: mg on April 18, 2006, 13:20
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"If I take the pressure washer to it, any danger that I'll damage some electrics?

I would imagine you could if not careful.  I have done it.  Short bursts, not pointing at anything obvious like the fuse box and then wiped down with a rag.
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Post by: Ernie Ball on April 18, 2006, 20:00
Fitted the strut brace today and all I can say is: wow!

OK, maybe I can say a bit more.  I thought the car felt great yesterday after I put in the Che's and the Corky's.  It certainly felt a lot less wobbly than it did stock.  But the addition of the front strut bar today has made a world of difference, adding at least as much improvement again as the other two.  The car feels so much more solid on the road now.

I was heading to the supermarket on the first drive after installing the bar and, I just said "f*ck it, let's go to the mountains."  So I went straight to the wicklow mountains on some roads I know well.  Well, the car handled the twisties so much better than it did in the past that it was like having a totally different car.  Before, the front end felt like the wheels were not firmly planted on the road.  Now it's just rock solid.

I'm addicted to modifying and driving this car now.  Someone please stop me before I order a Sportivo I can't afford right now.  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:
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Post by: Tem on April 19, 2006, 05:34
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"Wonder why the bar on your LHD car is able to go directly over the brake fluid container (I assume) without the need for a cutout....

The container sits lower on LHD cars.
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Post by: Ernie Ball on April 19, 2006, 17:01
By the way: the addition of the FSTB would appear to have banished the creak from my steering wheel when stationary.  So I guess I won't be replacing the top mounts right away...