Hi guys
Just got my new toy in the shape of a 2000 mk3 in red (naturally). I would like to get a bit more of a roarty note from the exhaust. I'm not talking Subaru rumble or Civic crackle but just a more sporty sound. With out resorting to a whole load of new plumbing what are my options? Any ideas?.
Hello and welcome.
Your options like most things depend on the budget you have set aside.
Have a poke around using the search facility top right corner.
There is a whole thread on zorsts somewhere.
All exciting stuff, but.
Before spending on shiny bits.
Make sure your tyres are good. same brand correct stagger etc. Check the sub frame for any hidden nasties. Make sure there sis oil in it, and keep checking for the 1st month or so.
And if you can whip out the o2 sensors and check the condition of the precats if they are still there.
All good advice there from Ardent.
As above.
Then go on the look out for TTE Remus or Fox exhausts.
Unless you want to be an ASBO kind of person avoid Cobra too loud.
Nooooooooooooooooo s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
Cobra is cool s:) :) s:) not ASBO. Its the neighbours giving it a bad name - the cat and manifold s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:
The best for a frooty, not frunky sound s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce: s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:
TTE sounds the best bar none.
Janspeed looks the best.
My vote goes to the Remus too, but I'll be looking up the Fox as it IS cheaper. I'd be willing to take the Fox if its almost on par, considering the price difference and comments around these forums.
Remus: m http://www.remusuk.com/model.asp?id=W3% ... man=Toyota (http://www.remusuk.com/model.asp?id=W3%201.8l%20VVT-i%20103%20kW,%202000=%3E&mod=MR-2&man=Toyota) m
Fox: m http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/uprated/ ... r2-w3.html (http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/uprated/fox-exhaust-backboxes/toyota/mr2-w3.html) m
My understanding with these is that on idle or low revs they're not "in your face" so you won't wake the neighbors, but once you boot it they have a nice roar.
Last time someone with a cobra came for a visit I heard him round the block.
Not the sort of noise you want to be making when you set out for Scotland at 5 in the morning.
I know loadswine is very happy with his fox.
Blitz nur s sounds like a suburu lol
I have the Che twin centre exit (lotus style) and love it,not too loud but enough to make people look.
Vote for the Che twin centre exit aswell just fitted mine last weekend (after several months in the shed) and yes please and its a bit different from the norm had to cut the bumper though!!
Jim
The Fox says it has 55mm pipes, is that a bit small if you are going to do some tuning? Does anyone know what diameter the other options are?
Yup s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
OK, let me try again, please will someone tell me what diameter the other options are?
Thanks
Quote from: "topsyde"Vote for the Che twin centre exit aswell just fitted mine last weekend (after several months in the shed) and yes please and its a bit different from the norm had to cut the bumper though!!
Jim
What were you doing in the shed all that time?
Quote from: "lamcote"The Fox says it has 55mm pipes, is that a bit small if you are going to do some tuning? Does anyone know what diameter the other options are?
A single 55mm is enough for a lot more hp than you're likely to get from an MR2.
Quote from: "jeffsimply"Quote from: "lamcote"The Fox says it has 55mm pipes, is that a bit small if you are going to do some tuning? Does anyone know what diameter the other options are?
A single 55mm is enough for a lot more hp than you're likely to get from an MR2.
Well I know Matt/Redline had trouble with the cobra on mine when I went SP200 to SP240. The internals of that exhaust were bottlenecking it a bit. We got 225bhp out of it though.
Quote from: "topsyde"Vote for the Che twin centre exit aswell just fitted mine last weekend (after several months in the shed) and yes please and its a bit different from the norm had to cut the bumper though!!
Jim
Nice one Jim, welcome to the club s:) :) s:) But nerve racking cutting lumps out the bumper but worth it now. Just means it'll be che forevermore lol. Did it take much bracket modifying??
Is this one a che or janspeed?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/525a28ead65d158f790fdd348c15b441.jpg)
Is there any way to tell the difference without finding a brand label?
A janspeed will be stamped on the backbox, get under and have a look....another way of telling....the janspeed will be loud.....proper loud! Also, it looks as if it has tapered pipes (see the shine) which the latest Che doesn't, unsure of previous versions but not like my 1yr Che
Quote from: "Dougster7"Quote from: "topsyde"Vote for the Che twin centre exit aswell just fitted mine last weekend (after several months in the shed) and yes please and its a bit different from the norm had to cut the bumper though!!
Jim
Nice one Jim, welcome to the club s:) :) s:) But nerve racking cutting lumps out the bumper but worth it now. Just means it'll be che forevermore lol. Did it take much bracket modifying??
Hi Dougie no I only took the bottom hanger off the exhaust at the cat and replaced with some wire! managed to fit the exhaust onto the top hangers although its doesn't hang from them its above them if you know what I mean, managed to get 2 sore fingers in the process of taking one of the hangers off though couldn't say anything for a while as the pain was so bad!!
Sounds good now though worth the pain s:) :) s:)
Jim
Depending on what noise you are after, an air filter like the K&N 57i kits will give you some noise when you put your foot down
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Is this one a che or janspeed?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/525a28ead65d158f790fdd348c15b441.jpg)
Is there any way to tell the difference without finding a brand label?
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb158/StueyC07/MR2%20Banana/Exhaust/DSC_0020.jpg) (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/StueyC07/media/MR2%20Banana/Exhaust/DSC_0020.jpg.html)
That one is a che as far as I can tell. The janspeed one has a nice rolled lip. See above.
Looks like its got a sports cat. Don't think the Che would fit on a standard cat without a bumper cut-out s:? :? s:?
Anyhow this is maybe getting away from the initial question s:bowdown: :bowdown: s:bowdown:
Getting back to it s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes: .
Depends what you want, but don't trust recordings because apart from the obvious recording/playback levels a big factor is manifold and cat s:roll: :roll: s:roll: . Also a lot are without the engine under pressure - noisy ASBO's with hormonal problems s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
My quad is (honestly s:wink: :wink: s:wink: ) not ASBO as fitted to de-cat (fleabay) manifold and standard cat. The BMC CDA is not intrusive, but cuts down the chatter from the passenger side of the car s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Having recently done a lot of trawling for myself the Fox is probably currently the cheapest option at about the £350. The hardest bit of your plumbing as you put it s:oops: :oops: s:oops: is getting the old box out s:crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: s:crazyeyes:
Quote from: "Lank"Depending on what noise you are after, an air filter like the K&N 57i kits will give you some noise when you put your foot down
I was thinking this was a good budget option, I've been in several cars with standard exhaust and induction kits. They usually sound a little more aggressive on idle, mental on full bore acceleration, but mostly had a quiet, non-boomy cruising speed.
None were MR2s, and the only exception was a mk5 First that was just painfully loud at all times with a universal stainless steel cone filter.
I have a zero and Janspeed, looks great, amazing build quality (looks like a piece of art -whole system pipe work) but it's bloody loud.
I have a Cobra exhaust on my new 2 (everything else is stock), which gives more volume and a bit of a deeper sound to it, definitely suits the car more than stock without getting the 'wrong kind' of attention. s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Quote from: "StuC"Quote from: "jvanzyl"Is this one a che or janspeed?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/525a28ead65d158f790fdd348c15b441.jpg)
Is there any way to tell the difference without finding a brand label?
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb158/StueyC07/MR2%20Banana/Exhaust/DSC_0020.jpg) (http://s204.photobucket.com/user/StueyC07/media/MR2%20Banana/Exhaust/DSC_0020.jpg.html)
That one is a che as far as I can tell. The janspeed one has a nice rolled lip. See above.
Quote from: "Jock"Looks like its got a sports cat. Don't think the Che would fit on a standard cat without a bumper cut-out s:? :? s:?
I have the Che system fitted to a standard cat and manifold and no cut out is required.I have only ever seen the bumper cut out when an aftermarket manifold is fitted.
Upgraded my exhaust sound the weekend, love it now. Involved no engineering work, no garage and no tools, added bonus was louder indicator relays but on the downside its enhanced the dashboard and roof rattles. Total cost was a tad under £2K had to be done as I needed new ears, yup hearing aids.
Norman
s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Sounds good value to me Norman s;) ;) s;)
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Is this one a che or janspeed?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/525a28ead65d158f790fdd348c15b441.jpg)
Is there any way to tell the difference without finding a brand label?
Looking at posts after this photo was posted, it looks as though it's a Che? I've just bought this actual exhaust from the guy breaking the car in the photo. I've started to clean up the tailpipes, but need to give them some more work with the Autosol. It doesn't particularly show in the photo, but the tailpipes are slash cut, without a rolled tip. Looking forward to getting it fitted!(https://www.dropbox.com/s/wedvp8nidpqrfpo/IMG_20151218_174819.jpg?dl=1)
Can anyone confirm whether or not the exhaust in the photo above is a Che?
That's the one I've got and yes it is and it give a great sound with the odd burble and pop too s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "topsyde"That's the one I've got and yes it is and it give a great sound with the odd burble and pop too s:) :) s:)
+1 to that s:) :) s:)
+1 yup Che - same as me - nice sound form them
Hey Wafers, how much did you manage to get the exhaust for? the breaker was quoting me just under a £100...
Super jealous if you got it for way less!
here is link of mine in action;-)
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Quote from: "jvanzyl"Is this one a che or janspeed?
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/04/525a28ead65d158f790fdd348c15b441.jpg)
Is there any way to tell the difference without finding a brand label?
I have the janspeed and my tail pipes look a little different to yours, and yes its quite loud.
Janspeed has a rolled edge rather than a straight cut pipe.
Janspeed also has the name punched into the top of the pipes.
Box is a bit different on the Janspeed, plus fitment and fabrication is far superior.
Do I remember reading somewhere (probably an old post) that if we could get an order for 5 units Janspeed would consider doing a limited production run again???
Quote from: "SteveMK3"Do I remember reading somewhere (probably an old post) that if we could get an order for 5 units Janspeed would consider doing a limited production run again???
I remember reading that some where on here.
Quote from: "SteveMK3"Do I remember reading somewhere (probably an old post) that if we could get an order for 5 units Janspeed would consider doing a limited production run again???
Few years back now !
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If they'd still do it I wonder if there would be enough interest here to get 5 buyers?