Hey guys,
I was wondering what the preferred discs and pad combo was these days for a car that will be used on track days? (note: not racing, just normal track days).
I used to use Mintex 1144's which I liked and I developed a liking for EBC turbo Groove discs as well. I just thought it might be worth checking to see what people were running these days s:) :) s:)
Thanks,
-Mark.
I would reccomend either yellow stuff or carbotech pads.
Wouldnt go for slotted or grooved discs just buy from a quality source.
the slotted/grooved work better imo.. but.. you really do eat pads with them... normal discs don't eat the pads anywhere near as much (i'd say 60% less pad wear). but they aren't quite as bitey.. so I think my choice would be dependant on the tracks in question.. slower tracks you wont eat pads anyway.. slower cars also.. aka better cornering less power... mine was the wrong way round, cornered badly went quick down the straights.. ate a set of yellowstuff in a few sessions around Bedford.. same sort of track time at coombe on plain discs was better, probably only 1/3rd worn.. and that was before I got the cornering sorted, can probably carry 10mph or more extra per corner now.
Hey guys,
Thanks for the feedback. I really like running grooved discs, they just seem to perform better for me on track (at least they did on my last car). From past experience I'm not a fan of EBC pads at all, really didn't like them and they felt very wooden. I've never tried Carbotech so may took a look there.
I main track at Croft and Knockhill, both are more 'momentum' circuits with only really one big stop at each track, plus it will be a stock 2 in terms of engine so the speeds wont be too high.
Chances are I might just stick to Mintex however!
Thanks again s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "Stifler"Hey guys,
Thanks for the feedback. I really like running grooved discs, they just seem to perform better for me on track (at least they did on my last car). From past experience I'm not a fan of EBC pads at all, really didn't like them and they felt very wooden. I've never tried Carbotech so may took a look there.
I main track at Croft and Knockhill, both are more 'momentum' circuits with only really one big stop at each track, plus it will be a stock 2 in terms of engine so the speeds wont be too high.
Chances are I might just stick to Mintex however!
Thanks again s:D :D s:D
LEt me know what Croft is like in the stock 2. It's closest to us as well (although Knockhill is close too). But seeing as Croft has very long straights, I didn't think it'd suit.
I can't fault my brakes (mtec, grooved, slotted). Haven't tried on track though. THey;'ve seen some pretty damn intense use though
carbotech pads. non slotted/grooved discs. brake air duct. That's my next step.
Plenty of opportunity to make up time in the corners at Croft Patrick so you are able to offset the loss on the straights with a bit of bravery s;) ;) s;)
However, I've not tracked a 2 for about 3 years so will take a little re-adjustment before I get comfortable enough to push, but I'll take some video next time I'm there!
I've done croft in a few cars but not a 2, its not really as straight as it looks imo.. plenty of fun to be had s:) :) s:)
I hear ferodo pads can be pretty intense too.
My brother uses them with solid discs on his 328 e36 - I know each car behaves differently though, before I get shot down
I see GT-4 have some discs by M-Tec, does anyone have any experience of them? They are substantially cheaper than the EBC discs they have on their site.
If they were good it would represent a decent saving!
Thanks.
I am not convinced expensive disks are worth the money.
Have used black diamond and mtec not noticed any difference.
More and more I'm thinking of just replacing with standard discs and pads, at least for the first few track days and see how they get on. I never like to scrimp, but I also don't want to over pay. The parts spend on the car is getting a little out of hand, new hoses, discs and pads all round + tyres is mounting up s;) ;) s;)
Stock disks.
Rear pads stock.
Uprated front pads of your choice.
Could be a good compromise between price and performance.
Good thinking, thanks for the input!
from memory Toyota have an eBay store, I'll head there at lunch and have a look at their prices.
I find front and rear pads wear about the same on track, so suggest (kinda, on a basic level at least) that they both work as hard, so not sure i'd put lesser on the rear or you'll just burn the fronts out more.. standard pads are very cheap though..
Going to take a punt on these:
https://mr2-ben.co.uk/products/637
I'll run them for a couple of track days (only got 2 left this year) and if they are no good, look to swap in the new year s:) :) s:)
Quote from: "stupink"I find front and rear pads wear about the same on track
Interestingly, I chomp through back pads twice as fast as front on track...
Quote from: "Alex Knight"Quote from: "stupink"I find front and rear pads wear about the same on track
Interestingly, I chomp through back pads twice as fast as front on track...
That is interesting... and strangely when I had grooved discs I did find I wore the rear faster.. now I have plan discs its more about 50/50...
I run 205 and 225.. so not a huge stagger.. do you have more stagger?
Quote from: "stupink"Quote from: "Alex Knight"Quote from: "stupink"I find front and rear pads wear about the same on track
Interestingly, I chomp through back pads twice as fast as front on track...
That is interesting... and strangely when I had grooved discs I did find I wore the rear faster.. now I have plan discs its more about 50/50...
I run 205 and 225.. so not a huge stagger.. do you have more stagger?
195/50/15 front and 205/50/15 rear, so less stagger. I am
very hard on brakes on track though, harder than most from my experience.
Stock discs (blueprint) and Yellowstuff pads all round.
I've just gone with Toyota discs and pads all round to start off with. Might as well start at an OEM base and then tweak from there s;) ;) s;)
Anyone know why euro car parts had two different sizes for front and rear discs in the performance section?
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Quote from: "jvanzyl"Anyone know why euro car parts had two different sizes for front and rear discs in the performance section?
Because they are different sizes, front to rear.
I would recommend Pagid discs with stock pads, Pagid pads are very prone to dust. The discs are great - very resistant to rust.
Norman
Quote from: "Alex Knight"Quote from: "jvanzyl"Anyone know why euro car parts had two different sizes for front and rear discs in the performance section?
Because they are different sizes, front to rear.
Hey Alex, sorry I wasn't clear- they actually have two different sizes for front and then another two different sizes for rear.... All the same performance brand but a difference in price... Never mind anyway. Bought the Pagid set!
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Quote from: "jvanzyl"Quote from: "Alex Knight"Quote from: "jvanzyl"Anyone know why euro car parts had two different sizes for front and rear discs in the performance section?
Because they are different sizes, front to rear.
Hey Alex, sorry I wasn't clear- they actually have two different sizes for front and then another two different sizes for rear.... All the same performance brand but a difference in price... Never mind anyway. Bought the Pagid set!
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I think they where the same sizes just grooved or plain for the price difference?
Ah yes, the more expensive ones were dimpled and grooved! Didn't spot that!
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I have used standard EBC brake discs and yellowstuff pads for a number of years and been really impressed with them.. although haven't used the car on track.
I had new Toyota discs and pads on the back of mine in the spring, pads seem fine, but the disks were looking really rusty after a matter of weeks. Not impressed.
I need to do the fronts now, and bought some of the Pagid disks when ECP had a 30% offer, but not decided what pads yet, although I'm swaying towards Carbotech XP8s. Does anyone have experience of these pads on a Roadster?
I believe them to be a top track pad not so sure about their on road manners.
Bumping this, as I really need to get the pads sorted. Any feedback on Carbotech pads and/or a good place to get them from?
Quote from: "Craikeybaby"Bumping this, as I really need to get the pads sorted. Any feedback on Carbotech pads and/or a good place to get them from?
Road or track use? How many HP?
Road and track, car otherwise standard.
From what I have been told, the Carbotech pads are really good. But for stock ish power, I would think Toyota OEM or Yellowstuff would be fine. Carbotech have to be installed with new or skimmed discs for them to condition the disk surface IIRC.
I've got a new set of Pagid discs ready to go on.
I've seen a lot of good things about Carbotech, but can't find much from anyone who actually runs them, everyone seems to be using Yellowstuff, so will likely do the same.
I run Yellowstuff at the moment, I'm sure they will be well up to the job on stock power. Carbotec do provide very nice pedal feel and will last for more track days. Personally, I'd want to match the front and rear pads to keep balance.