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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: GREYMR252 on December 8, 2016, 18:01

Title: Help leak passengerside
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 8, 2016, 18:01
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Hi Guys,  Would be really grateful for any advice anyone can give me re: small leak on passenger side.  Only just noticed  a couple of weeks ago that the passenger side carpet was pretty wet.  However, there was no sign that it'd soaked right through to the pans beneath the carpet so I dried it out and put it down to me going  a bit mental with the hose last time I cleaned it.  

So, last night was the 1st time we've had any significant rain for weeks and low and behold the carpet was wet again this morning.

This time I got my next door neighbor Paul, (cheers mate) to sit in the passenger seat whilst I gave the car a going over with the hose and he spotted it trickling in at the bottom of the door (photograph attached) when I opened the door it also seemed to be trickling down the outside of the fuse box which is located just inside the passenger side door.

All the rubber seals seem to be in place and in exactly same position as the drivers side, which is fine.  The only obvious difference that I can see is that the rubber seals on the passenger side are starting to show their age (slightly perished as per attached photo).

If anyone's had the same problem and been able to sort it I would be really grateful if you could pass on any tips on how I could go about solving this problem.

Cheers,  Guys
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: normanh on December 8, 2016, 18:55
Make sure the roof clasp is tight on the passenger side.

Norman
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: shnazzle on December 8, 2016, 19:24
Make sure to park flat or nose-up if possible.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: Dan MR2 on December 8, 2016, 19:31
Mine leaks in slightly, in the exact same place as yours, it only happens in heavy rain. I think it's the door rubber/seal at the bottom of the A pillar (bottom of windscreen surround), I can't trace it to anywhere else.
Like you have said it's probably the rubbers starting to show their age, I using that rubber treatment stuff to try and bring them back to life abit!
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 8, 2016, 19:34
Thanks Norman.  Had a new Mohair Twillfast hood fitted in late September. So, that was one of the 1st things I had a look at.  Passenger side looks pretty tight and seems similar to the drivers side but if you have had the same problem yourself and that fixed it I'll have it checked out by Paul, at the softtopshop who fitted it for me.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 8, 2016, 19:43
Thanks Dan, did try to revitalize the seals all round with the Gummi Pflege Stick-Rubber Door Seal Restorer.  Worse case scenario I guess it's possible to replace the that seal.
Cheers, Denis
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: Carolyn on December 8, 2016, 19:57
Look up 'Roof Drains'.

Clean them out.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: Dan MR2 on December 8, 2016, 20:07
Gummi pflege that's the stuff, I've been using it every couple of weeks since February and the rubbers are getting much better. I just keep a towel on the carpet where it leaks in, but mines nothing major only small drips in heavy rain.
It's definitely not the roof clasp tightness on mine because I've just had a new roof and the leak is no different and it's not coming from that high up, also I have brand new drain bags fitted so my drains are clear, the leak is from the front.
my A pillar rubber is split slightly in the bottom corner ( behind the wing mirror/top of door panel) from nearly 15 years of the door being opened and closed against it, I would put money on it yours is the same/similar problem.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: MR Roadie 2 on December 8, 2016, 20:48
Had water leak issue with my car last year, managed to stop the leak by rubbing some vaseline onto the frame seals.

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Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: Wabbitkilla on December 8, 2016, 21:45
Are you parking with the car facing down a slope?
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 8, 2016, 22:53
Thanks for all your suggestions Guys, it's given me plenty to go at and if and when I can sort it I'll post the result for the benefit anyone else with a soggy carpet!
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: ptennisnet on December 9, 2016, 11:35
I've taken my carpet out to help it dry quicker and not smell musty.  I found some insulation in the foot well - removing has also had a benefit by increasing the distance between the steering wheel and my knee.

Only seems to leak in heavy rain.  I do need to run some silicone grease over the seals again though.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: PhilzMR2 on December 12, 2016, 19:41
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Are you parking with the car facing down a slope?

My car drips on the passenger side on to the seat when I park facing down a slope. Can you explain why please?   s:) :) s:)
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: keeper2611 on December 12, 2016, 19:59
Because it seems that they leak more if you're facing downhill
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: Wabbitkilla on December 13, 2016, 03:20
Quote from: "PhilzMR2"
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Are you parking with the car facing down a slope?

My car drips on the passenger side on to the seat when I park facing down a slope. Can you explain why please?   s:) :) s:)

Yes, this is actually quite normal, the drip drains are designed to work for when the car is in motion.
They can easily get overwhelmed when a car is parked facing down a slope, so the fix is to park facing up a slope or on the level.
A pita if you are in the habit of parking properly or prefer facing it the way you do, like me.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: ptennisnet on December 13, 2016, 13:40
It is interesting that everyone seems to have the same failure on the passenger side only, with water running down the fuse area.  I wonder if the leak is reversed on cars with the steering wheel on the wrong side?
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: Wabbitkilla on December 13, 2016, 15:54
I used to get it whichever side was facing the wind ... and downhill. Pot luck which side does it but now you know the reason.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: GREYMR252 on December 13, 2016, 18:11
[attachment=1:34cov741] ia1 WIN_20161213_13_09_04_Pro_LI.jpg ia1 [/attachment:34cov741]Hi Guys,  Maybe it's just luck but, hallelujah I seem to have sorted the leak out on the drivers side of my roadster.  I noticed that the rubber seal on the A frame sort of tapers off to nothing after it meets the passenger door and though I couldn't be certain as you can't see this bit when the door is closed when I ran the hose over this section the water began to trickle down over the footwell.  No sign of a leak anywhere on the passenger window where the perished rubber seals are at their worst so I figured out that the the problem must be where the weather seals tapers off.

Luckily I had some rubber weather-seal hanging around the shed one centimeter in depth U - shaped so I was able clip a couple of inches on to the end of the rubber A frame weather seal where it starts to taper off.  In short this seems to force the flow slightly further forward and stops it trickling down over the fuse-box and from there down onto the passenger footwell.

If anyone wants to try this I've got a meter of spare weather seal and I'll happily pop some in the post FOC I've also taken a couple of photos that I'll post if it's of interest to fellow members.
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: keeper2611 on December 13, 2016, 18:14
Pics are always good
Title: Re: Help leak passengerside
Post by: PhilzMR2 on December 13, 2016, 20:38
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"
Quote from: "PhilzMR2"
Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Are you parking with the car facing down a slope?

My car drips on the passenger side on to the seat when I park facing down a slope. Can you explain why please?   s:) :) s:)

Yes, this is actually quite normal, the drip drains are designed to work for when the car is in motion.
They can easily get overwhelmed when a car is parked facing down a slope, so the fix is to park facing up a slope or on the level.
A pita if you are in the habit of parking properly or prefer facing it the way you do, like me.

It's a pain because my driveway slopes downwards and I can't be bothered to reverse in!

In fairness my Alfa GT was worse - park that facing downward with low fuel in the tank and it wouldn't start.