As per the title, really! Looks in really good condition, only 48k miles from new with all old MOTs, etc.
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I'd love to hear if the former owner is a forum member.
Hoping to pick it up next weekend - can't wait...
Edited to add - I did not pay £1000 for it!
Wow! That looks like quite a find! Well done!
Hello and welcome
Happy and sad at the same time.
Good find for you. A grand for a TTE turbo MR2 makes me weep.
A grand for that? Come on!
Welcome. The £1k didn't meet the reserve so I'm assuming the OP bought it for a bit more than a grand and the auction was finished early!
Yes, it had a buy it now of £4k and the auction ended early, it's clear op did a deal and it did not go for a grand!
It looks a very tidy car I was tempted myself. Was the previous owner a member of the ROC?
Will done on your new purchase, hope you really enjoy. s:D :D s:D
I saw this car advertised on a MR2 Roadster FB page for£3999.
Personally at £3999 I thought this was still a great buy.
The seller is a dealer from Leeds...i bought a tte roadster off him a couple of months ago... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Not stargazer's old tte? Or was that the SP turbo?
Quote from: "skippa"The seller is a dealer from Leeds...i bought a tte roadster off him a couple of months ago... s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
There rarely come up for sale and this dealer has sold two in the last month.
Quote from: "shnazzle"Not stargazer's old tte? Or was that the SP turbo?
He owned both but he sold both kits separately to the cars.
this is mine ...trying to find so info about it
Yours looks a nice example and I'm sure the previous owner was on here many years ago.
Quote from: "skippa"this is mine ...trying to find so info about it
Wasn't that one advertised by the guy on the FB group? I only ask because it's got the TTE front bumper and those are RARE.
Think it had about 70+k on the clock?
Quote from: "jvanzyl"Quote from: "skippa"this is mine ...trying to find so info about it
Wasn't that one advertised by the guy on the FB group? I only ask because it's got the TTE front bumper and those are RARE.
Think it had about 70+k on the clock?[/quote
it was on UK MR2 Roadster owners FB page... pretty good nick for age of car, 86k, carbon bonnet and boot, tte boomerang, tte front brace, SP exhaust, extra chassis bracing, BC coilovers, trd oil pressure, water and oil temp guages, engine seems fit pulls very well, no smoke, leaks etc..handles great on its Yoko ad08's....was some history with car but it would be nice if anyone knew some details about it!
I had a bog standard roadster 5 years ago and this feels twice the power of the previous car!
Sadly I didn't get it for a grand! We agreed to end the auction early for £3900. Still, it seems like a good deal to me - I was contemplating doing a 2zz conversion to my car and this will work out no more expensive, plus the car is a couple of years younger and has done 30k fewer miles.
Interesting that he sold another TTE turbo recently - he claims it's a private sale...
Well done you.
Youll love it but you will want more power eventually.
Quote from: "1979scotte"Well done you.
Youll love it but you will want more power eventually.
What's the sweet spot for power?
Quote from: "Rubber Ducky"Quote from: "1979scotte"Well done you.
Youll love it but you will want more power eventually.
What's the sweet spot for power?
I think most people would say 200-250
Me i think you need at least 280 lol
200bhp is the sweet spot but you always end up wanting more lol
Quote from: "Rubber Ducky"Sadly I didn't get it for a grand! We agreed to end the auction early for £3900. Still, it seems like a good deal to me - I was contemplating doing a 2zz conversion to my car and this will work out no more expensive, plus the car is a couple of years younger and has done 30k fewer miles.
Interesting that he sold another TTE turbo recently - he claims it's a private sale...
The only reason he would say that would be to avoid any after sales warrenty stuff. I would question that or be prepared to drive away with no come back if something goes wrong
Quote from: "s12vea"200bhp is the sweet spot...
That's what I'm hoping. 138bhp certainly isn't the sweet spot! I really don't know why Toyota didn't offer the 2zz from the factory...
Just to add, the car I'm buying was previously registered as Y2PDR if that helps anyone cast any further light on it. Now registered as Y595HVY.
Quote from: "Rubber Ducky"he claims it's a private sale...
He can claim what he wants, unless the car is registered in his name & there is no trace of it through the books either coming in or going out then it's a commercial sale & you have his nads in your grip if anything goes wrong, he could try putting sold for spares/repairs on the invoice if he does walk away, in fact run away.
But I hope it's as good as it looks & my half empty glass is wrong.
Quote from: "Rubber Ducky"Quote from: "s12vea"200bhp is the sweet spot...
That's what I'm hoping. 138bhp certainly isn't the sweet spot! I really don't know why Toyota didn't offer the 2zz from the factory...
Once you have driven a TTE turbo you won't mention 2zz unless it has a turbo or supercharger attached s8) 8) s8)
Quote from: "phaeton"Quote from: "Rubber Ducky"he claims it's a private sale...
He can claim what he wants, unless the car is registered in his name & there is no trace of it through the books either coming in or going out then it's a commercial sale & you have his nads in your grip if anything goes wrong, he could try putting sold for spares/repairs on the invoice if he does walk away, in fact run away.
But I hope it's as good as it looks & my half empty glass is wrong.
We have agreed that the car is being sold as described in the eBay advert. I have downloaded a copy and saved it offline.
It looks a nice example, I'm sure it will be fine.
Quote from: "s12vea"It looks a nice example, I'm sure it will be fine.
I hope so too - maybe he's just claiming it's a private sale so that he can "shelter" a few quid from the taxman...
Just look forward to collecting car and report back.
P.s when you have car can you let me know what boost it's running.
Great find!
A real unicorn.
I'm curious what changes to original TTE set up were made to reach 200 HP?
Do you have any idea?
The sp exhaust and boost controller should do it.
Insurance sorted out - £400 for the year, which seems pretty good to me.
Starting to get really excited now...
Adrian flux?
Quote from: "s12vea"Adrian flux?
Yep - they seemed very mod friendly.
Good choice I've been with them for past three years.
Quote from: "s12vea"Good choice I've been with them for past three years.
And you always seem to get a better deal.
I need to put more effort in.
Haggle haggle haggle that's all can advise.
Well, I've got it. It's over boosting on full throttle - up to 1 bar indicated on the boost gauge. Could be a cheap, inaccurate boost gauge, of course... However, the car surges forward best when on part throttle and about 0.5 bar indicated boost. I'm sure it can be sorted relatively easily, and it runs fine off boost, so no melted pistons or anything...
Electronic boost controller or a cheap fixed adjustable?
Quote from: "Rubber Ducky"Well, I've got it. It's over boosting on full throttle - up to 1 bar indicated on the boost gauge. Could be a cheap, inaccurate boost gauge, of course... However, the car surges forward best when on part throttle and about 0.5 bar indicated boost. I'm sure it can be sorted relatively easily, and it runs fine off boost, so no melted pistons or anything...
Just replaced a cheap ebay gauge for a quality plx item.
Old gauge somtimes showed 12psi new gauge has peak hold feature which hasnt gone above 9.7.
0.5 bar is 7 something psi which is probably about right for a tte 1 bar is seriously bad for a stock 1zz.
The current boost controller is a Turbosmart adjustable manual one. I've backed it right off, but the initial boost spike is still there - could this be due to the excessive length of piping..? My next course of action will probably be to just bypass it altogether and let the wastegate actuator spring control the boost. Hmm...
I think that is false economy, if you want to control it properly I know they are not exactly cheap but you need to use n electronic one, they are far more consistent.
Sounds a lot like Helen's car. Be careful. I've seen a 13psi spike, which is not good at all.
A good boost controller I'd say is pretty much the most important part of a turbo setup.
The spike will always be there on a manual controller.
I found this when I was explaining how boost controllers work to Helen.
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Quote from: "phaeton"I think that is false economy, if you want to control it properly I know they are not exactly cheap but you need to use n electronic one, they are far more consistent.
Agreed - to a point. At the lower end of the market, manual boost controllers are a bit of a lottery, but Turbosmart products are well regarded. For set-and-forget boost adjustment, a decent manual boost controller should be all you need.
My first priority is to sort out the boost spike on initial throttle application. 1 bar of boost (transient) is way too high!
Quote from: "shnazzle"Sounds a lot like Helen's car. Be careful. I've seen a 13psi spike, which is not good at all.
A good boost controller I'd say is pretty much the most important part of a turbo setup.
The spike will always be there on a manual controller.
I found this when I was explaining how boost controllers work to Helen.
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Thanks for the link. I think the best thing to do initially is to bypass the boost controller altogether and see how it runs with just the actuator spring regulating boost.
Watch this space...
That's what we've done s:) :) s:) runs strong, but obviously missing a lot of potential boost/power.
Solid 7psi on the gauge, in guessing resulting in about 190ish hp
I've just fitted a manual turbo smart boost controller on mine and I'm having a similar issue. Mine spikes up to 1bar I'm going to shorten the actuator as mine is at the shortest length already. That should give me a solid boost without using the manual boost controller.
About 10 years since I played with any turbo's MR2 making around 240-250 I wouldn't have trusted that engine with a bit of brass, a spring & a ball bearing,
Quote from: "s12vea"I've just fitted a manual turbo smart boost controller on mine and I'm having a similar issue. Mine spikes up to 1bar I'm going to shorten the actuator as mine is at the shortest length already. That should give me a solid boost without using the manual boost controller.
That's reassuring (for me) that I'm not the only one with this issue. Looking at page 3 of the Turbosmart installation instructions, it mentions removing the ball and spring to stop boost spikes - worth a try...
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Boost spike sorted! I removed the spring and ball from the boost controller and the spike had gone - very relieved. It now pulls cleanly on full throttle at just over 0.5 bar of boost. There's a slightly funny noise above about 5500RPM where the engine sounds like a buzz saw - is this normal? Could it be something like the timing chain tensioner on its way out?
Excuse my ignorance but by removing the ball and spring from the valve, aren't you negating the purpose of the valve? Without the ball/spring it's always leaking boost isn't it?
You might as well just remove the boost controller.
Between 3-4K it should be making 0.67 bar as a guide
Or 9.72 psi
Quote from: "shnazzle"Excuse my ignorance but by removing the ball and spring from the valve, aren't you negating the purpose of the valve? Without the ball/spring it's always leaking boost isn't it?
You're removing the gate feature, but the valve still restricts the flow, allowing you to raise the boost. There's no boost leaking.
Quote from: "s12vea"Or 9.72 psi
My gauge isn't that accurate!
Well after 10 days of ownership, I've done quite a bit. The high RPM rattle was just a heat shield - easily sorted. I've replaced a few bits - steering column lower UJ, camchain tensioner, a lambda sensor, the stereo and aerial. The annoying alarm (for which I only received a single fob) has been ripped out. New rear tyres too. And I've changed the boost gauge.
It's all coming along quite nicely except for one thing - it likes a drink of oil. The main suspect is the piston rings (it's an early 1zz, after all), but it could be valve seats or turbo bearings. Anyway, it's off to Bonsai Garage in Weston Super Mare next Friday - fingers crossed...
Good luck...it sounds like your gradually sorting things out
How many miles have you done to suspect high oil consumption?
You shouldn't be noticing oil consumption so early. How much have you used in ten days?
Turbo oil seals
Turbo oil return or feed.
Thats what i would be looking at.
Initial oil consumption rate seems to be about a litre every 250 miles. I'll see what the garage say on Friday, but I'm fearing the worst. Not a happy bunny...
Best of luck
You could always put the kit in a different car and sell off body, chassis and interior parts to recoup some funds.
Fingers crossed for you.
Removed for now.
Just wondering what happened with this? Did Bonsai sort it out?
It was sold last week on eBay. I imagine the problem was resolved s:( :( s:(
Nope, he sold the car on - to me, wish I had found this thread earlier, and I did scour the internet for threads on TTE mk3's didn't find anything typical. Just found this today when I registered to look for some background info on TTE conversions in general.
*REMOVED ADD*
No mention of any issues in that add, sounds great right? He said it just wasn't for him, I did think only a few months ownership was suspicious, but I liked the little thing and he seemed an honest gent at the time. I now I find out it's his second MR2 roadster so clearly he did like them and thought they were for him!
I asked before purchase about the motor and if it lost oil, he said it didn't. Also lied to me about a few other things I asked about such as boost and the controller (he said he never touched it since purchase and it was always running stock), as it raised some suspicion about running high boost and I was concerned, he also claims to have changed the valve stem seals at the end of May along with the chain tensioner. However, in this thread he changed the tensioner in March, so I doubt he even did the valve stem oil seals like he told me. When I went to drive the car away after doing the deal, he threw the rocker cover gasket in the car and said he didn't use it, I thought it odd. Change the valve seals and replace a 16 year old gasket with a 16 year old gasket when you already bought a new one? Clearly it would suggest he didn't do any further work on the car and just decided to pass his misfortune onto an unsuspecting punter. So all in all I am not too happy. What was supposed to be a fun time having a cool little runaround to save my daily driver and for the wife and I to use has turned into something all together sour and ruined the experience. It's a shame because I do love the little car, but now I don't know. I might just get the engine sorted and then sell it on, I'll obviously take a loss, but now it's taken away the enthusiasm and fun out of it all. All this in just one week s:( :( s:(
I never sell rubbish or fob people off, I seriously look after my vehicles and possessions and always get them sorted, so it seriously bugs me when someone does it to me, you expect things to go wrong with an old car, hence not even bothered about the suspension and other bits. But to outright lie to me and deceive me to buy the car is low.
I paid £3600 for the car, the rear suspension needed sorting so I've changed that already and fitted new Sachs OE shocks on the TTE springs. Had some tidying of body work and interior which I am working through but, the plugs are black, it had lost oil just getting it home and there is oil on top the pistons. Either it is the valve stems and he didn't change them or it's sticky oil rings I guess from the research I have done.
Bansai did a leak down test, smoke pro test on the turbo (whatever that is) and it all came out ok, they advised him valve stem seals to which as I said he told me he had done (provided a receipt for parts, but as we know I have the gasket here, maybe the seals are still sat in his garage too).
My best guess is, he either bought the seals and decided it was too much effort to change them, then decided to sell it on. Or maybe he had a go at fitting them, genuinely did use the old gasket (why?), found out it was still burning oil three weeks later and decided to pass it off to someone else.
I sent him a message saying about the problems already and it was a bit off, I just asked for a goodwill gesture from him for clearly fobbing me off with a duff car, he couldn't even admit it though, he just came back and said he was honest about the car and this must be a new fault since my ownership (within 5 days, 150 miles, and a few of those sat in the garage having the suspension sorted and some other bits and bobs tidied).
Seems RubberDucky *EDIT* was no more than a common crook, much like the person that sold it before him, that chain will end with me - I've actually got morals.
I do kinda feel for the guy, in one way I mean he bought a car with issues, looks like he paid £3900 and probably did spend a few hundred on it. But passing it on to me and trying to cover things up and just outright lying is pretty low, and that's what has got my back up. If he'd have said sorry and sent me like a small gesture I would have said ok, but he basically blocked me and ignored me after the message I sent. (*Edit, he did say he sent me a message, I never received it for some reason)
I'm now looking for someone decent to do a reasonably priced rebuild or overhaul of the engine. First price I got was from rogue and it was more than the car was worth lol, so if anyone knows of anyone, let me know.
There is a local chap that builds race engines that a friend knows, I might ask him to do some work on it on the side, might help keep the costs down. I mean the other option is that I could pull the valve cover and change the seals (again or for the first time who knows) and see if it does resolve it. I could also do a soak on the pistons to see if that helps in the interim. Another option is buying a second hand 1zz and just rebuilding it on a bench then getting it swapped one weekend.
There are some positives at least, the car's mileage (just under 52k), and MOT's stack up, 2 owners and it has service history, and the interior cleaned up well. Now the suspension is sorted if I get a few marks on the bodywork done, refurb the wheels to a high standard it will be looking very nice. If I can get the oil issue sorted for a reasonable cost then it will save a nice little mr2 roadster before it is too late.
wow... man I'm sorry to hear about this... I saw the add on eBay and thought it strange that another Turbo had come up for sale again, just didn't realise it was the same one!
First up, location! If you let people know where you are based, I'm sure a fair few people will come out of the woodwork to lend a hand!
I can provide you with a decent shopping list for a soft rebuild courtesy of Carolyn (all the prices are the best you're likely to get) comes to about £300 but pretty much everything is new then.
I think "Ilovejapcrap" also bought new pistons with his rebuild from MAG, and they weren't too much at all really when you think of what you're getting.
You can take comfort in the fact that your turbo kit alone is work £2000 minimum. So if you ended up taking off the car and then selling the car stock (as an oil burner) you may not do too badly. But in all honesty I think most of us would love to see it carry on with a rebuilt engine :-) :-) :-)
Unlucky, that's sh1tty to be fair and a lot of dough for a pre facelift. As jvanzyl says the turbo kit is worth a few quid so if you decide to cut your losses it will get you a chunk of your cash back. I will throw my hat in the ring and say if you do sell the turbo I may be willing to make you an offer for it. But getting the car back on the road would be the preferred option....
Thanks guys.
I'm in Swindon, Wiltshire.
Appreciate that Jvan, if you could PM me some more info re the list and where to get it from that would be really appreciated.
I guess you guys are right, at least the genuine TTE kit is worth a bit of cash, it also has an SP exhaust apparently. I'd like to get it sorted really rather than parting out the turbo kit and selling the rest spares or repair. It could be such a nice little fun car. I was well chuffed when I bought it as it ticked quite a few boxes (RWD, convertible, small engine, not bad on fuel, turbo fun s:) :) s:) ). Now though, when I see it, it just gives me a bad feeling, that excitement and fun that I should be having went down the pan in just a few days of ownership. I don't want to go on but to be fair I am gutted. I even sold my mint motorbike that I'd built and replaced everything on over 5 years to make way for a new toy / runaround, and this is how it ended up. So yep, I've given up biking and ended up with an old oil burning toyota in the garage :/
Alarm bells did ring in my head when he mentioned valve stem seals, and the receipt for Bansai only a few weeks prior, that with the three month ownership thing should have sent me running. But like I said he showed me a receipt for them diagnosing to valve stem seals, and a receipt for the seals and claimed to have done them. He seemed like a well spoken, honest / decent chap - lesson learned I guess.
The other thing is I checked for smoke when driving it, couldn't see any noticeable smoke under boost or when ticking over. I later found out it only seems to smoke if you rev it at standstill and the turbo spools up a bit and you let off. Something I am not in the habit of doing to be fair. I took it for a spin, knew the handling needed a little work and the body and that was it. I was in two minds, was on my way to go and see a mk2 turbo up north when he accepted my offer, now I know why.
Anyhow, these motors are all new to me. Any help or advice would be super appreciated. If I can get it diagnosed and a plan sorted then I will have some options I think.
Thanks.
*edited due to typos on phone*
Might as well rebuild the engine you've got. It's the same amount of work and you save £3-400 on buying another engine for rebuilding. It's a lot of work, but very rewarding.
If you've got what it takes to take the engine out, then you'll manage a rebuild too.
I've rebuilt a few and now I'm actually enjoying my own rebuild in my own car. The car was a bad oil burner (like yours) when I bought it. I put in low mileage 04 engine. It also went through oil but at nothing like that rate. I rebuilt the original MR S engine and then it sat for several months as I was able to live with the 04 engine. Ding Day gave me the impetus to get on and put the original back in.
I'm 66 and I do find the heavy work onerous these days, but I did it single-handed. Mind you, we've got a massive workshop and enough tools to sink a battle ship.
It's worth taking off part of the turbo outlet and seeing of it's oily inside. However, at that rate of consumption, it will probably need valve seals and piston rings.
Measuring oil use would be good start. They can actually drink oil but still be with Toyota tolerance, but from reading this thread I don't think your going to be that lucky s:( :( s:( . 2zz engine swaps are becoming quite popular, so a post on here may get you a known 1zz engine for reasonable money.
Thanks for the reply Carolyn, the only thing is I really could do with having the car movable, it's still moderately usable / movable in it's current state as it stands. Maybe if I can just find a dirt cheap 1zz to build beside the car.
I haven't removed the pipes on the cold or hot side of the turbo yet, I'll see if I can take a look later thanks. The only sign of oil at the moment is on the plugs (threads and base of the plugs) and damp pistons in the plug holes. Also I took it round the block just now to collect my daughter from school. The slight hesitation / misfire is back occasionally when poodling around at low RPM.
Wotugonado, true, I emptied out the old black rubbish that was only half full, and put fresh 5w40 fully synth in last night with a new filter (shell helix ultra). I've only taken it down the road, still as clean as it was when I put it in, so I guess no lose nasty sludge kicking around that's drained straight to the sump. I guess I'll use it a few times to pick my daughter up this week then check oil again at the end of the week.
Another thing too, the plugs in it are the wrong ones, it's running vk16's the stock ones for a non-boosted engine, Toyota recommend colder 20's to stop detonation. Not that it will do much good changing them right now as they will be gummed up within a few miles.
Hi Steve.
Just open up the pipe from the turbo to the throttle body, (or to the intercooler). You might just be suffering from blown oil seals in the turbo!! The turbo can be resealed. That's an awful lot of oil of you can see it on top of the pistons.
Thanks I did this and it is clean, only sign of oil is a spot on the turbo return feed into the sump, it's damp and mucky.
Sounds like it is either Valve Stem Seals or Oil rings.
Sorry to hear you have purchased without knowing all the issues, your car has some nice bits fitted and I'm sure for a few quid spent you can resolve the oil consumption and you will have a cracking car.
Then the planned fun will begin. As a fall back you can break for parts and get your money back (ideally repair)
Not many TTE turbo 2's left Now.
If you do decide to part it out I will be very interested in the complete TTE turbo kit.
Thanks S12 and Bugster, I'm not sure what to do at the moment, like I said the excitement and fun has all gone now.
To top it off I've also just received a phone call and some bad news from a family member, so I have more important things to think if right now.
Park the car and deal with your family issues. Then come back to it knowing you've got a nice solid platform that will pay you back either in pleasure and satisfaction or in cash.
The turbo kit is very desirable and the sp exhaust as well. But importantly, they make for a great car to drive.
You have all the support you need from us as well! We'll get you there if you're willing to put in the effort.
All the best with the family things s:( :( s:(
I notice that the seller isn't coming back to defend his actions, because he can't, it's disgusting what he has done, sorry I had sympathy with him when he bought it, but not now.
Quote from: "shnazzle"Park the car and deal with your family issues. Then come back to it knowing you've got a nice solid platform that will pay you back either in pleasure and satisfaction or in cash.
The turbo kit is very desirable and the sp exhaust as well. But importantly, they make for a great car to drive.
You have all the support you need from us as well! We'll get you there if you're willing to put in the effort.
All the best with the family things s:( :( s:(
Agreed.
Thanks for the replies, appreciate the support.
I had a message last night, I've been told to stop (in his words) 'harassing' him and to remove the 'defamatory comments' on this forum.
I did say he is welcome to respond, it's a free world and he has as much access to this thread and site as I do, so is more than capable of putting his comments on here about the situation.
As far as I am concerned this is an open forum, I believe in freedom of speech, and I haven't said anything that isn't true, merely that he was dishonest on certain points and lied to me on certain points (such as the boost the engine was running and whether he had touched the controller) which is indeed true based upon what he told me and what he stated on here before speaking to me, and he knows it. He hasn't clarified why he told me he fitted a new cam chain tensioner on 27th May with valve stem seals, yet on here he states he fitted a new cam chain tensioner before 10th March, some simple answers to these questions would have been nice, he could have said he replaced it again for some reason for all I know as silly as that may sound, but why not answer? Define 'crook' - a person who has been dishonest, again true in my opinion based on information I have discovered, and, he has not said anything to the contrary to prove or convince otherwise, there has been zero justification from him on my other points, what am I then expected to believe? It obviously makes me question other things he had told me, wouldn't you feel the same? Also he could just as easily be called Donald Duck on here for all anyone else knows, I am just stating my thoughts and feelings subjectively which I am entitled to based on the information I have discovered. He however just continues to comment about the stem seals being done, not addressing any of my other concerns, and considers me pursuing answers to my valid questions and messaging him to seek a resolution to the situation as 'harassment' which is absolutely not my intention.
I have removed a few words on my previous post, such as a reference to his first name and a link to the add, simply because I consider myself to be a reasonable person. It is true my wife is a Solicitor, and has worked in a lot of different fields, I was actually tempted to pursue this matter with her firms advice when I found this thread and comments from him contradicting items that he had told me, but now to be fair, at the end of the day it's just a little bit of money and a used car. And I've unfortunately now got much more important things to deal with in my life, so it just seems petty, my mother has been in hospital and it does change your perspective on life a little when you suddenly realise just how mortal we all are, and what really matters in life are your family and friends - people, not a few pounds. No amount of money or material things can fix them or bring them back once they are gone.
Maybe one day our paths will cross, I'll look back on this and we will laugh and buy him a pint. I did say to my wife, he probably is a decent chap who just got caught up in an unfortunate situation and I don't tend to hold grudges, life is too short. For all I care Mods this entire thread can be deleted, if he contacts you, you are welcome to remove it or delete my posts, I really am beyond caring about this situation right now.
Anyhow, I appreciate the responses. Hopefully in the near future I will start a new thread with progress on what is happening with the car.
Thanks again.
Wow! I would nt lose any sleep over it, I think you've been quite reasonable to be fair. From looking at this thread he appears to have sold on a known Lemon and a very expensive one at that!
He has every right to come on here to explain his point of view if he wants, as far as I'm aware he's not banned, so can post a response. I think a lot of members, myself included would have used far stronger language about him if we were in your position. If he's been offended by your comments, then he needs a thicker skin, or could offer a part refund to cover works needed to clear the conscience.
Edit.
Did you buy it through eBay? Item not as described may have a case for refund s:?: :?: s:?:
Quote from: "wotugonado"or could offer a part refund to cover works needed to clear the conscience.
He ought to.
Quote from: "wotugonado"Did you buy it through eBay? Item not as described may have a case for refund s:?: :?: s:?:
Caveat emptor
Caveat emptor.........
I did however get a news story on my feed about a rotivator sold on eBay recently.
I can't remember it word for word but it went along the lines of, sold in good working order barely used, about a month later the buyer opened a refund case with eBay and sent it back to the seller. On receipt the seller found it broken into a couple of pieces and covered in dirt so had obviously been used and abused. The buyer denied this and even with before and after pictures from the seller they found in the buyers favour and issued the refund. It stated in the article they are tending to favour the buyer over the seller as a rule and its starting to become a regular occurrence. The main problem is how payment was made for the mr2 as I believe the rotivator transaction was done by PayPal which helped the buyers cause.
So how did it go with your car?
My experience of the turbo is it's great fun combined with great angst until you get the trouble bits nailed. Then presumably it's just great fun (not quite there but almost). Hope you get past the worries and enjoy the car. It's very good value fun to be honest and it will always have some residual value as well which is a bonus. Private sales are a risky thing but it can be fixed I'm sure
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Just a thought. There is a 1zz currently for sale in private sales. It's been rebuilt. It's also cheap. 30/10/2017