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Title: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 7, 2017, 21:08
Right my engine is in and I have no spark

It is showing ignition circuits fault

P1300
P1305
P1310
P1315

All electrics worked before removal
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: normanh on July 7, 2017, 21:37
Its likely that you should have 4 codes - one for each cylinder. No power to the coil packs!

 m https://www.autocodes.com/p1300_toyota.html (https://www.autocodes.com/p1300_toyota.html) m

Norman
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 7, 2017, 23:50
Yrs I do have 4 I was just typing quick
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 05:24
You probably missed one of the earths from the loom that goes to the head.
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 08:14
I'm sure I have all earths on but will check them
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 08:19
Could it be crank sensor ? Or would I be shown a code with the diagnostic system in our mr2s.  ?
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Essex2Visuvesi on July 8, 2017, 08:44
Crank sensor will have have its own code, same for cam sensor

Edit
P0335 crank
p0012 camshaft
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 08:50
+1 on the sensors.

The only part of the circuit that is common to all four coils is the earth.  As the codes relate to the coils, not other parts of the system, my money is still on that. One of the wires going to the coil connector should show a circuit to the engine block, so you can check it that way.
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 10:47
Quote from: "Carolyn"+1 on the sensors.

The only part of the circuit that is common to all four coils is the earth.  As the codes relate to the coils, not other parts of the system, my money is still on that. One of the wires going to the coil connector should show a circuit to the engine block, so you can check it that way.


Sorry to be a burden how would I check that
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 11:27
Unplug one of the connectors to a coil pack.  Clip one end of your meter to the engine.  Select  the continuity setting on your meter (the lowest setting in the 'Ohms range).  Put the other probe from your meter into the connection for the white wire with a black stripe in the connecting plug.  It should show continuity.
Just tried it on an engine I've just built, it worked.
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 12:05
Had a further peek at the engine on the stand...  

I disconnected one of the earths from the loom to the head.  It killed the earth on all four coils.
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 13:26
 m http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/104-c ... cs/1395562 (http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/104-camry-5th-6th-gen-2002-2006-2007-2011-2nd-gen-solara-2004-2008/1395562-all-4-igniter-circuit-malfunction-p1300-p1305-p1310-p1315.html#/topics/1395562) m
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 13:28
I have just done volt check on connector for cool battery positive to earth in pin as shown on link above and have 13.4 VDC is that good or bad ?
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 13:29
Quote from: "Carolyn"Unplug one of the connectors to a coil pack.  Clip one end of your meter to the engine.  Select  the continuity setting on your meter (the lowest setting in the 'Ohms range).  Put the other probe from your meter into the connection for the white wire with a black stripe in the connecting plug.  It should show continuity.
Just tried it on an engine I've just built, it worked.


I did this and got 0.9
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 13:30
On ohms that is
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 13:37
On the lowest setting, I'm getting .1 ohms.  Perhaps a disconnect of the earth, clean up and re-connect?  Could be the earth won't transmit enough juice...  

13.4 looks good.  So you've got power.

Otherwise, I'm out of suggestions.

I'm just thinking about what gets disturbed when you take an engine out and the loom off the engine.  If you still have no luck, You might try disconnecting the ecu connections, blow out the blocks and spray with contact cleaner?  Long shot, I know.
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 15:30
well Its working.

I'm not sure why I cleaned an earth with two white and black wires too it that looked good in first place and that's about it !!!

still not got it to start as of yet ! ! its cranking over but my batt is not the best so I'm charging over night
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 16:26
You found it.  Yes you had an earth but not a good one!

Have you cranked it over with the plugs out (just to get the oil round the engine)?
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 16:32
Yrs cranked over, in theory has diary has fuel but seems reluctant to start at moment. Will know more tomorrow once battery is charged.

Cmon mr2 you can do it lol
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: Carolyn on July 8, 2017, 16:44
Diary??
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: ilovejapcrap on July 8, 2017, 16:50
Spark and fuel have no idea why it corrected to diary !
Title: Re: Help won't start ignition circuit
Post by: smarty72 on July 8, 2017, 17:25
Fingers crossed it all goes well WHEN it finally comes back to life...