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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 12:44

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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 12:44
got a bit of a prob, i'm trying to get to the ECU to fit a unichip and the first security torx screw i tried has just rounded off, any idea's on how to get it off now????
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Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2005, 12:45
dremel the head off the security screw?
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 12:46
problem no.1 - no dremel!!  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: GSB on March 11, 2005, 12:58
Remove the other screw. Being sure not to round it off by forcing the bit in there whilst turning it. Its the 27 size you need by the way.

Once the screw is out, apply a bit of torque to the other screw with your torx drive, whilst turning the plate around the screw. It  should have a few degrees of movement available, and it should be all you need to get it started.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 13:33
oh well thats done it, the other ones just gone and yes i definatley had a no.27 bit, i think some gorilla must have put them in with superglue

bugger, bugger, bugger  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  bloody cra**y things

i'm really in need of help now  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: GSB on March 11, 2005, 13:36
What you need is a dremel.

You can then use it to cut a slot into the head and remove it with a flat bladed screwdriver. Once thats done you can replace the screws with something a little more convienient.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 13:37
doh!!  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2005, 13:43
Bummer.  And FWIW I've not got a dremel either...... but, if I had to go buy one (like it sounds like you'll be doing), I'd be quite happy, 'cause I'm sure you'll find lots of uses for it.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 13:51
yeah i'd better find enough uses for it, it's going to cost enough  s:( :( s:(
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Post by: so.simple on March 11, 2005, 13:52
Quote from: "kanujunkie"yeah i'd better find enough uses for it, it's going to cost enough  s:( :( s:(
I bought a great one yesterday for €29.90... It's not a great brand, but a very complete kit. I'm sure You can also find one like this over there.   s:) :) s:)
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 14:03
at that price i wont complain, right i'm off to the shops
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Post by: roger on March 11, 2005, 14:13
You also get look a likes on Ebay. Bought mine for less than a tenner.  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: so.simple on March 11, 2005, 14:18
This is what I got: http://www.einhell.com/scripts/products.asp?CompanyID=1&LanguageID=1&Path=2021|608|609|2317|2323|697

It even has a flexible shaft!
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Post by: aaronjb on March 11, 2005, 15:24
Quote from: "so.simple"It even has a flexible shaft!

Ooer missus..

Stu - FWIW I bought a B&Q own brand 'dremel' for about £30 a while back, it's lasted well and seen some good service too.. vibrates a little (as it's off-balance, and the proper Dremel I've used didn't) but works just fine  s:) :) s:)

You'd be amazed how useful it'll be..
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 16:34
cheers Folks,

i've just got back with one of those B&Q specials and it had a flexible shaft like the one Carlos mentioned, worked a treat, screws out and the Unichips in, just got to give her a test run now  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  

Thanks to all for the idea's and help, much appreciated  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: crankshaft on March 11, 2005, 17:07
QuoteIt even has a flexible shaft....screws... give her a test....you'd be amazed how useful it'll be

Arf Arf....

Sorrie, I just couldn't resist all of those double-entendre's  !
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 11, 2005, 18:33
 s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 11, 2005, 21:41
So...where do i sign up for the Dremel appriciation society?

What time does B&Q open, I have some window locks to fit tomorrow and want a new toy!
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Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2005, 09:15
So how did you get on then Stu?
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Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2005, 16:21
Spill the beans then Stu, how does it go now   s:D :D s:D  

Did you get my mail about Porsche in the snow.

Best regards Alan
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Post by: Anonymous on March 14, 2005, 18:11
Quote from: "GSB"Remove the other screw. Being sure not to round it off by forcing the bit in there whilst turning it. Its the 27 size you need by the way.

Once the screw is out, apply a bit of torque to the other screw with your torx drive, whilst turning the plate around the screw. It  should have a few degrees of movement available, and it should be all you need to get it started.

Are you sure about size 27, I used size 25 and they both came out no worries - the driver bit never even felt like it was goig to cam out and chew up the screw. Heath said that he used the 25 bit as well (not being picky, just trying to help anyone else that attempts this)  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: GSB on March 14, 2005, 18:13
Yup, pretty sure... Used the 27 on 2 seperate cars...
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Post by: roger on March 14, 2005, 20:24
25 for me, I'm afraid. Did try 27, but it never felt as though it was fully seated. But the screws were'nt that tightly in anyway, so if it was a bit small no damage was done.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 16, 2005, 07:38
don't know how it goes to be honest, put it in and then went to amsterdam, still not feeling up to driving yet, will let you know though, if this hangover clears  s:( :( s:(
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Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2005, 00:47
Recommend that whenever you have a problem screw or bolt, especially i the smaller sizes, you change them to a cap / socket head screw.  That way you (almost) never have to worry about a screwdriver slipping out of the screw's face and returning to the original problem.  Get yourself a good set of Bondus drivers and you'll be set for a long time.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 17, 2005, 20:19
Quote from: "drobbs"Recommend that whenever you have a problem screw or bolt, especially i the smaller sizes, you change them to a cap / socket head screw.  That way you (almost) never have to worry about a screwdriver slipping out of the screw's face and returning to the original problem.  

cheers for that mate and welcome to the club on your first post, the problem with this is that it will show that the ECU has been tampered with and will invalidate my warranty

Quote from: "drobbs"Get yourself a good set of Bondus drivers and you'll be set for a long time.

now i've been in engineering world for a fair while but what the hell are those?
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Post by: Anonymous on March 17, 2005, 20:21
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "drobbs"Get yourself a good set of Bondus drivers and you'll be set for a long time.

now i've been in engineering world for a fair while but what the hell are those?

You'll find them in B&Q, next to the guffin sprockets.   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 17, 2005, 20:29
Quote from: "bigun007"So how did you get on then Stu?

OMG  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:   now thats a difference, suddenly i've got to brake a lot earlier for corners, almost ended up back to front at one point when the back end broke away but got away with it, i really am stunned that a small box can make such a difference, cant wait now to strap on a set of Toyo's now and give it a proper test  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 17, 2005, 20:30
Quote from: "ekona"You'll find them in B&Q, next to the guffin sprockets.   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2005, 16:51
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "bigun007"So how did you get on then Stu?

OMG  s:shock: :shock: s:shock:   now thats a difference, suddenly i've got to brake a lot earlier for corners, almost ended up back to front at one point when the back end broke away but got away with it, i really am stunned that a small box can make such a difference, cant wait now to strap on a set of Toyo's now and give it a proper test  s:D :D s:D

I miss it   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
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Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2005, 17:30
Quote from: "bigun007"I miss it   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

Where'd it go?
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Post by: markiii on March 18, 2005, 17:33
Stu bought it.
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Post by: Anonymous on March 18, 2005, 17:34
Ahhh.
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Post by: kanujunkie on March 18, 2005, 20:43
Quote from: "bigun007"I miss it   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:oops: :oops: s:oops:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:    s:cry: :cry: s:cry:

there there mate, just think of what your getting in return, i know which i'd rather have  s8) 8) s8)