I'm considering making up a few kits.
See: https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?topic=67099.msg792751#new
I have to price up all the bits needed, and I don't want to do the work for no return. I also don't want to cross the line of trading on the site and being a member. The rules make this a bit tricky. (Input from the committee would be helpful).
Anyway, before I do all the work, I'd like to gauge the interest level.
Off -hand (don't hold me to it) the kit would be around £55.
If this is of interest to you, please say so on this thread.
Interested!
I would require your bespoke service for the V6.
From a committee perspective this is no different than widermuller or dev's efforts. Yes there's profit involved but more as compensation for your time as well as materials.
Go forth a build. If you start growing your business into braces, subframes, pulleys, supercharger kits etc then we'll talk business ;)
Put me down for one sent out yesterday.
I had guesstimated 50 quid so ok with me.
PM you paypal account and I will forward it towards your upfront costs.
If it gets a bit less/more we will cover it in shipping cost.
p.s. was serious about signing the damper :)
I réally think what you/how you do it do is hat´s off cool Carolyn and I like the personal aspects of things.
Quote from: Petrus on March 30, 2019, 12:36
Put me down for one sent out yesterday.
I had guesstimated 50 quid so ok with me.
PM you paypal account and I will forward it towards your upfront costs.
If it gets a bit less/more we will cover it in shipping cost.
p.s. was serious about signing the damper :)
I réally think what you/how you do it do is hat´s off cool Carolyn and I like the personal aspects of things.
You're too kind. I just do what seems like fun!
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2019, 11:59
I would require your bespoke service for the V6.
You might need a brace! (As in pheasants...) They're only friction dampers, so two might be need on a bigger mass.
Quote from: Carolyn on March 30, 2019, 12:50
You're too kind. I just do what seems like fun!
That ÍS cool Carolyn; you doing your thing because you have fun doing it.
The world would be a lót more pleasurable place with more people looking at life this way instead of being miserable gits making life difficult for others because they don´t like theirs.
Petrus: If there's not enough demand to warrant making a few (and getting discount on components), I could just send you all the bits needed minus the damper (which you can buy on Ebay for the same price as me) and you could go from there?
Quote from: Carolyn on March 30, 2019, 12:59
Petrus: If there's not enough demand to warrant making a few (and getting discount on components), I could just send you all the bits needed minus the damper (which you can buy on Ebay for the same price as me) and you could go from there?
Yes, I could :D
Maybe the best way to go about as Ebay.co.uk bought it must be here asap to avoid customs crap.
Quote from: Carolyn on March 30, 2019, 12:52
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2019, 11:59
I would require your bespoke service for the V6.
You might need a brace! (As in pheasants...) They're only friction dampers, so two might be need on a bigger mass.
Finding space could be an issue.
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2019, 13:21
Quote from: Carolyn on March 30, 2019, 12:52
Quote from: 1979scotte on March 30, 2019, 11:59
I would require your bespoke service for the V6.
You might need a brace! (As in pheasants...) They're only friction dampers, so two might be need on a bigger mass.
Finding space could be an issue.
Bring her here (We can have lunch and b.s. a bit) and let's see. Where there's a will....
Quote from: Carolyn on March 30, 2019, 12:59
Petrus: If there's not enough demand to warrant making a few (and getting discount on components), I could just send you all the bits needed minus the damper (which you can buy on Ebay for the same price as me) and you could go from there?
Id be interested in this deal too and i can also send cash upfront like Petrus.
I don't need (or want) cash up front guys. Thanks for the offer!
Let's see what the demand is. David and I are looking at just making the mounting kit and letting you lot get the dampers straight off ebay.
I've asked the supplier for a bulk price on dampers, so we'll see.
Got to locate cone washers at a decent price and the right capheads and nylocs to go with.
We'll investigate during the week.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend!
Quote from: Carolyn on March 30, 2019, 14:13
I don't need (or want) cash up front guys. Thanks for the offer!
Let's see what the demand is. David and I are looking at just making the mounting kit and letting you lot get the dampers straight off ebay.
Ok, I´ve pushed the button and they should be here next weekend. Am réally happy with this; I even had this on the Mercedes diesel engine offroaders!
My peasant 1st edition design of this is still in and works miracles. So I'm definitely in line for one of these
OK it's list time:
1: Petrus
2: Nvy
3: Shnazzle
Note Carolyn, just for the mounting kit; as you wrote but just to avoid confusion.
Yes. Mounting kit only.
1: Petrus
2: Nvy
3: Shnazzle
4: jvanzyl
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I've ordered the bits for five kits. So one more up for grabs.
Haven't priced it yet, though.... Got some collars to machine.
I'll take the last one please, it'll compliment the rest of the set up. [emoji1303]
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All the components have now arrived.
We have to make spacers (Lathe) and brackets, do the finishing, trial fit on my car, make up installation instructions and go away for the weekend.
So it'll be sometime next week. Looking like £25 plus postage. All stainless bolts, nylocs, so it will be good quality.
All sounds good to me, particularly the weekend away part.[emoji1303]
I've got an oil catch can to fit that was going to go on the cross frame directly opposite the PCV but think I'll find somewhere more appropriate for it.
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I bought one of these dampers when you first mentioned them but havent worked out where to fit it so will be interested what you suggest when you see Scotts car as to a suitable mounting as I would up for a V6 version too.
Quote from: Topdownman on April 5, 2019, 15:23
I bought one of these dampers when you first mentioned them but havent worked out where to fit it so will be interested what you suggest when you see Scotts car as to a suitable mounting as I would up for a V6 version too.
Problem is one V6 isn't the same as another.
Yours, mine and @MR TWO (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=19798) are all a different flavour.
I'd be interested in a set please.
Ill take a set if you make any more Carolyn
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All of you who've expressed interest, need to PM me with your mailing address and email address, so I can send installation guide.
Progress is being made!
Link for the damper. It comes in a few colours, so if you search Ebay for 'Engine Damper' you can pick that which you fancy.
Ignore which car they are for. They come in long and short.
You want short.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engine-Torque-Damper-172mm-196mm-For-Toyota-Celica-Starlet-Supra-Turbo-Blue/113082519868?epid=5004684772&hash=item1a543e513c:g:~0sAAOSwuzRXf38F
Great stuff! Ordered.....
Sweet. Cheeky red one on the way, will look lovely with the blue accents..[emoji851]
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Sweet. Cheeky red one on the way, will look lovely with the blue accents..[emoji851]
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@Topdownman (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18717)
He's just sick isn't he
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 9, 2019, 11:00
Sweet. Cheeky red one on the way, will look lovely with the blue accents..[emoji851]
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He's just sick isn't he
Hahahahaha! "Different "..
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The innards:
(https://myalbum.com/photo/wgOks5972gng/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/a6l2NsXBH6oN/1k0.jpg)
It seems (from corresponding with Petrus) that these are stiffer than they used to be.
Mine's a couple of years old now.
Don't worry about the stroke, just adjust for length and install.
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 9, 2019, 11:00
Sweet. Cheeky red one on the way, will look lovely with the blue accents..[emoji851]
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He's just sick isn't he
Hahahahaha! "Different "..
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Words fail me.....
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 9, 2019, 12:25
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Quote from: Call the midlife! on April 9, 2019, 11:00
Sweet. Cheeky red one on the way, will look lovely with the blue accents..[emoji851]
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@Topdownman (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18717)
He's just sick isn't he
Hahahahaha! "Different "..
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Words fail me.....
Fitting it to a knackered engine so it might as well look pretty![emoji38]
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Looking forward to the fitting kit and bolt it in :D
For anyone who would like the PU bushings a slightly softer; drilling a few holes trough them axially will do that trick. This gives the material space to deform instead of only compress.
Please. everyone, just adjust the length and install it!
They will 'run in' as they're used.
More importantly: Deal with sloppy fore and aft engine mounts first, (if your ARE sloppy),
Received my kit this morning, many thanks.
Just checked the colour of my damper.
I may be in for some stick.....
(https://i.imgur.com/zqKGLVa.jpg)
Quote from: Topdownman on April 10, 2019, 20:57
Just checked the colour of my damper.
I may be in for some stick.....
(https://i.imgur.com/zqKGLVa.jpg)
That gold though, tis a thing of beauty!
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Received my kit today, lovely stuff, cheers!
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Quote from: Topdownman on April 10, 2019, 20:57
Just checked the colour of my damper.
I may be in for some stick.....
Bahahaaa! John, check it out...
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Quote from: Topdownman on April 10, 2019, 20:57
Just checked the colour of my damper.
I may be in for some stick.....
Bahahaaa! John, check it out...
You know me Derek, I'm very much live and let live, if Simon has decided to embrace the rainbow I'm all for it![emoji23]
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You will all see that one of the rose joints (the one with the locking nut) can be adjusted for length.
Make sure there is still a decent amount of thread attached to the damper. Otherwise it might tear itself out.
If you need a bit more length, slacken off the ally collar and wind out the ally threaded part to make up the length.
Hopefully I've assembled this right- should be midway on the stroke.
Looking forward to this little bit of bling bring put in place! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/245b513ca233b07fcc14e5a853f3dd44.jpg)
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Quote from: jvanzyl on April 11, 2019, 10:26
Hopefully I've assembled this right- should be midway on the stroke.
Looking forward to this little bit of bling bring put in place! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/245b513ca233b07fcc14e5a853f3dd44.jpg)
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Not quite: Invert the bolt on the right. The spacer is correct once the whole thing is inverted. Bolt head underneath, spacer on top with the narrow part going into the hole on the head.
Ah gotcha! You actually wrote that in the guide... But somehow I still got it the wrong way up...
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Like so?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/9443fde5e64f70fb4beca5aaeb3276c0.jpg)
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Quote from: jvanzyl on April 11, 2019, 10:38
Ah gotcha! You actually wrote that in the guide... But somehow I still got it the wrong way up...
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Story of your life...
:) :) :)
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Like so?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/9443fde5e64f70fb4beca5aaeb3276c0.jpg)
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NO. Spacer other way up.
Lóve the sequal.
Sigh... I can only hope that other things today will go smoother..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/af513a2bc46a5013008c619125f4b2e4.jpg)
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Correct!! Bolt goes into head from underneath. Spacer goes into head from on top. Damper sits on top of spacer.
Taking one for the team there JV, nice one!
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and now the photos of the mounted dmper over the weekend.
I will be way behind as the kit is still making it´s way down south.
Kit arrived. Now to order the damper. Next pay day jobbie that is
Just ordered the damper and waiting for the kit.
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Quote from: jvanzyl on April 11, 2019, 10:38
Ah gotcha! You actually wrote that in the guide... But somehow I still got it the wrong way up...
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Story of your life...
:) :) :)
Well done Pat you've now chosen to wear the Pants of Shame in perpetuity.
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Quote from: shnazzle on April 11, 2019, 10:44
Quote from: jvanzyl on April 11, 2019, 10:38
Ah gotcha! You actually wrote that in the guide... But somehow I still got it the wrong way up...
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Story of your life...
:) :) :)
Well done Pat you've now chosen to wear the Pants of Shame in perpetuity.
That seeemed to be the case anyway! Makes no odds
Quote from: Nvy on April 11, 2019, 14:10
Just ordered the damper and waiting for the kit.
Had the damper already; see above.
Hope the kit has arrived in the montains when I get back there Monday.
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Quote from: Nvy on April 11, 2019, 14:10
Just ordered the damper and waiting for the kit.
Had the damper already; see above.
Hope the kit has arrived in the montains when I get back there Monday.
With luck you European Cousins should get your kits before Monday.
@Carolyn (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22891) anymore of these kits left?
Quote from: Akayfortyseven on April 16, 2019, 12:25
@Carolyn (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22891) anymore of these kits left?
Not right now, I'm afraid.
Fitted my engine damper thingamabob today. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/3P9SM61.jpg)
Quote from: Mikeymead on April 19, 2019, 18:12
Fitted my engine damper thingamabob today. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/3P9SM61.jpg)
What did you notice?
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Quote from: jvanzyl on April 19, 2019, 18:24
Quote from: Mikeymead on April 19, 2019, 18:12
Fitted my engine damper thingamabob today. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/3P9SM61.jpg)
What did you notice?
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Sorry Jon, do you mean fitting or driving?
Driving!
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Quote from: jvanzyl on April 19, 2019, 18:44
Driving!
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To be honest I haven't really noticed much difference yet, probably me just being very insensitive to changes. :-\ I'm sure under some circumstances it does make a difference.
Quote from: Mikeymead on April 19, 2019, 18:53
To be honest I haven't really noticed much difference yet, probably me just being very insensitive to changes. :-\ I'm sure under some circumstances it does make a difference.
You should be able to notice it on the upshift when accellerating hard through a long corner.
The weight transfer of the engine should be less.
Looks good btw :notworthy:
I have the red one too but find it a bit gipsy caravan bling in my grey engine bay :-[
Well finished piece of kit Carolyn. Thank you!
It was indeed in the post office but being Semana Santa it is closed. I have it anyway. That is one of the perks of a small village.
Was drinking my morning coffee in the bar just across the square and the postman saw my notice lying on the table so
´I will get it for you.´
I don't know if it's the picture, but it looks like it's not quite straight. It should be ok, but ideally the force should be transmitted perpendicular to the engine.
To others: Take your time marking up where to drill so it all lines up.
I also notice it when slipping the clutch, reversing, and pulling away.
Quote from: Carolyn on April 20, 2019, 09:58
I also notice it when slipping the clutch, reversing, and pulling away.
Aye but we do not all have you sensitive feminine toutch ;)
Especially when pulling away. None of that jumpiness. And as said, between shifting up, quite noticeable.
Looking forward to seeing how this compares to edition 1 I've got on.
Quote from: Carolyn on April 20, 2019, 09:58
I don't know if it's the picture, but it looks like it's not quite straight. It should be ok, but ideally the force should be transmitted perpendicular to the engine.
To others: Take your time marking up where to drill so it all lines up.
I also notice it when slipping the clutch, reversing, and pulling away.
Looking down from the top it is definitely 90 degrees to the engine. As for the height of the rear bracket, this is the same as on the guide so couldn't be mounted any lower, angle of the damper is set by the spacers.
Quote from: Mikeymead on April 20, 2019, 11:42
Looking down from the top it is definitely 90 degrees to the engine. As for the height of the rear bracket, this is the same as on the guide so couldn't be mounted any lower, angle of the damper is set by the spacers.
I get what you mean.
The vertical angle was a compromise between being dead flat and having a long spacer putting leverage on the bracket.....
We looked at a few alternatives and decided on this set-up.
(https://myalbum.com/photo/i6qq0nMWaCJL/1k0.jpg)
(https://myalbum.com/photo/0gjuHarbuwGN/1k0.jpg)
After fitting and tightening all up; grab the damper housing and fírmly pull/push it to feel if the internals are adjusted tight enough. The internal rubbers need to be done up more than finger tight to eliminate all internal play.
Few more pictures of my install.
(https://i.imgur.com/XUcMZsA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Zo4iP2y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/W7O5n77.jpg)
So I hope this is fitted correctly.
Looks OK.
Each engine will sit in the chassis slightly differently. Yours seems to be sitting a little lower than mine. I'd be tempted to pop a small washer or two under the damper at the engine end.
Are your engine mounts soft?
Quote from: Carolyn on April 20, 2019, 17:04
Looks OK.
Each engine will sit in the chassis slightly differently. Yours seems to be sitting a little lower than mine. I'd be tempted to pop a small washer or two under the damper at the engine end.
Are your engine mounts soft?
Yes I was considering doing just that, I don't think the mounts are that soft, I can barely move the engine.
When they get old - the mounts sag a bit. Can be as much as 5 mm. Mine had to be tigersealed to re-centre them. You can tell by jacking the engine a little and watching the engine mount.
Edit: Mikey: Unless you've changed the engine mounts they are at least 15 years old. They WILL be sagging. I reckon mine (18 years old) came up nearly 1 cm!
Quote from: Carolyn on April 20, 2019, 17:04I'd be tempted to pop a small washer or two under the damper at the engine end.
I put a narrow washer on both sides of the rose joint bushing to avoid any possible binding when the engine moves. I know, OCD :-[
Despite slightly damp roads and dark clouds looming, I took the car out. Frogs a re supposed to love water no?!
There is no doubt that the feel is tighter. I did not have any jerkyness on getting started or reversing to begin with but I have to slowly negate the path to/fro the farm house. This is both unflat, at changing angles and a bit undulating so involves on/off the throttle. Only light load changes but it ís responding ... tighter.
On the road, well, not much of a difference if any.
Shifting up while accellerating though a long corner is just that bit tighter as expected.
Then it started raining. Not a downpour, but still real rain. So water on the hard Spanish tarmac = need to pay réal attention.
Accelerating through a bend on the highway shifted up into 5th at 150 km/h: Definitely less of the torque reaction. Mind you, it was nothing unsettling befóre but less gives more confidence under these circumstaces.
So; not changing the car obviously; we are talking marginal gains here; júst that bit tighter under changing loads. The bottom line of that is what you perceive through the bum is once again more directly coming from the whééls! :D
Nobody more yet?? :-\
Buying the damper now. Had to wait for pay day :)
Don't omit doing the fore and aft engine mounts, :)
Quote from: shnazzle on May 1, 2019, 18:43
Buying the damper now. Had to wait for pay day :)
Time, money, skill; real world limitations ;)
Quote from: Carolyn on May 1, 2019, 19:50
Don't omit doing the fore and aft engine mounts, :)
Quote from: Petrus on May 1, 2019, 19:52
Quote from: shnazzle on May 1, 2019, 18:43
Buying the damper now. Had to wait for pay day :)
Time, money, skill; real world limitations ;)
I swear. If you didn't have money problems before, this is the place to get them.. ;)
*sigh* I'll go buy another tube of Tigerseal...
Quote from: shnazzle on May 1, 2019, 20:01
*sigh* I'll go buy another tube of Tigerseal...
(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/99000/Tiger-Seal-Hybrid-on-the-Prowl--99189.jpg)
Quote from: Petrus on May 1, 2019, 20:28
Quote from: shnazzle on May 1, 2019, 20:01
*sigh* I'll go buy another tube of Tigerseal...
(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/99000/Tiger-Seal-Hybrid-on-the-Prowl--99189.jpg)
What the actual hell... Did you make that? What are the odds of that existing??
Quote from: shnazzle on May 1, 2019, 20:01
I swear. If you didn't have money problems before, this is the place to get them.. ;)
I agree...
Thought I had reached the end of the mods several mods ago.
Yet the wish list grows faster than I can take them off:
Still have to take the exhaust heat shield off. Although that is for free need to make the time to get the rear bumper off.
Also still have the airbag light on.
Oh and the reinforcements I cut out of the bonnet (:< >:)
The wishes are the lighter flywheel; to be adressed if/when the clutch needs replacing. KATCHING!!
Pass the iTV to get a smalled licence plate approved in the vehicle docs. Katching.
Put lighter seat in. KATCHING!!
Mount a bl@@dy large rear wing. Katching.
By that time I will have added to the list... :-[
Already have a silly one floating in my head. Mind ´head´, not braín, hence silly one: Would lóve to take the rearview mirror out. I took the sunvisors out because they cramped my view. Go figure that mirror...
Etcetera :-\
Bah. Mine arrived and it's blue! I wanted a red one :(
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/22e842a1ff087ac3f45e94dec414e386.jpg)
Ahhhhhh :'(
I decided to paint mine black. You only need a fraction of a mini can so pick you favorite color and :D
Just tried to fit mine after having lifted the engine a bit and spent 45 unhappy moments trying to get windscreen adhesive in my mounts.
So, the engine was lifted a fair bit, but I still can't get the bracket high enough on the rear frame. Bit confused. In the pic above, is mine put together correctly?
If my engine has dropped that much that lifting it a fair bit puts it still too low, I might have no choice but to replace my entire mounts with some new ones.
I only had to shave that little corner of the head cover a tiny fraction to make the spacer fit, so that's good.
Quote from: shnazzle on May 6, 2019, 11:07
Just tried to fit mine after having lifted the engine a bit and spent 45 unhappy moments trying to get windscreen adhesive in my mounts.
So, the engine was lifted a fair bit, but I still can't get the bracket high enough on the rear frame. Bit confused. In the pic above, is mine put together correctly?
If my engine has dropped that much that lifting it a fair bit puts it still too low, I might have no choice but to replace my entire mounts with some new ones.
I only had to shave that little corner of the head cover a tiny fraction to make the spacer fit, so that's good.
Ideally the through-bolt at the chassis end should be the other way up.
Try jacking the engine until the sleeve in the mount is absolutely centred vertically. My mounts had sagged a lot, but the Tigerseal sorted them out.
If the bracket is still too low, tell me by how much and I'll send you a couple of extra spacers and a longer bolt for the chassis end.
Quote from: shnazzle on May 5, 2019, 18:30
Bah. Mine arrived and it's blue! I wanted a red one :(
I feel your pain.
Quote from: Carolyn on May 6, 2019, 11:19
Quote from: shnazzle on May 6, 2019, 11:07
Just tried to fit mine after having lifted the engine a bit and spent 45 unhappy moments trying to get windscreen adhesive in my mounts.
So, the engine was lifted a fair bit, but I still can't get the bracket high enough on the rear frame. Bit confused. In the pic above, is mine put together correctly?
If my engine has dropped that much that lifting it a fair bit puts it still too low, I might have no choice but to replace my entire mounts with some new ones.
I only had to shave that little corner of the head cover a tiny fraction to make the spacer fit, so that's good.
Ideally the through-bolt at the chassis end should be the other way up.
Try jacking the engine until the sleeve in the mount is absolutely centred vertically. My mounts had sagged a lot, but the Tigerseal sorted them out.
If the bracket is still too low, tell me by how much and I'll send you a couple of extra spacers and a longer bolt for the chassis end.
*sigh*
You know what. Sometimes it'd be easier if I just got a pushbike. It's more at my level of intelligence.
I did draw two conclusions;
1) my mounts are too far gone. Without lifting, the engine drops so much that the bracket doesn't fit. Hence the need for more spacers etc. By a good 1.5cm.
2) If I don't get new ones, I need to redo this becauuusseee... I'm an idiot.
How does one do this? Easy!
Lift engine, put goop in mounts, let set fully, drop engine. Enjoy.
How did Patrick do this?
Lift engine, put a stand under the engine MOUNT, put goop in. Walk away happily. Job done.
Except for that, as I said, I'm an idiot, and I put the stand under the engine MOUNT. Not the engine. So, engine jdut dropped back to where it was when I removed the jack. What a tool.
Oh man, I nearly spat out my coffee on the screen.....
I feel vindicated though; you are human too!!!
Quote from: shnazzle on May 6, 2019, 11:43
Quote from: Carolyn on May 6, 2019, 11:19
Quote from: shnazzle on May 6, 2019, 11:07
Just tried to fit mine after having lifted the engine a bit and spent 45 unhappy moments trying to get windscreen adhesive in my mounts.
So, the engine was lifted a fair bit, but I still can't get the bracket high enough on the rear frame. Bit confused. In the pic above, is mine put together correctly?
If my engine has dropped that much that lifting it a fair bit puts it still too low, I might have no choice but to replace my entire mounts with some new ones.
I only had to shave that little corner of the head cover a tiny fraction to make the spacer fit, so that's good.
Ideally the through-bolt at the chassis end should be the other way up.
Try jacking the engine until the sleeve in the mount is absolutely centred vertically. My mounts had sagged a lot, but the Tigerseal sorted them out.
If the bracket is still too low, tell me by how much and I'll send you a couple of extra spacers and a longer bolt for the chassis end.
*sigh*
You know what. Sometimes it'd be easier if I just got a pushbike. It's more at my level of intelligence.
I did draw two conclusions;
1) my mounts are too far gone. Without lifting, the engine drops so much that the bracket doesn't fit. Hence the need for more spacers etc. By a good 1.5cm.
2) If I don't get new ones, I need to redo this becauuusseee... I'm an idiot.
How does one do this? Easy!
Lift engine, put goop in mounts, let set fully, drop engine. Enjoy.
How did Patrick do this?
Lift engine, put a stand under the engine MOUNT, put goop in. Walk away happily. Job done.
Except for that, as I said, I'm an idiot, and I put the stand under the engine MOUNT. Not the engine. So, engine jdut dropped back to where it was when I removed the jack. What a tool.
Leave the engine on the jack for at least 12 hours before putting the weight on the mount.
Can you dig the Sikkaflex out ok?
I take it you won't be needing the extra spacers I just made?? ::)
Quote from: Carolyn on May 6, 2019, 12:20
Can you dig the Sikkaflex out ok?
I take it you won't be needing the extra spacers I just made?? ::)
No need to dig out. I realised before it started to set.
Wrt spacers... You went out and made some??? Right, not sure I can fit enough bubbly for you into the car when we come... But no, hopefully won't need it
Mounts much better this morning. Trial-fitted the damper and it now aligns nicely with the rear frame. Will see if I can fit tonight and compare with my existing damper tomorrow on the drive to work
Quote from: shnazzle on May 7, 2019, 09:32
Mounts much better this morning. Trial-fitted the damper and it now aligns nicely with the rear frame. Will see if I can fit tonight and compare with my existing damper tomorrow on the drive to work
Well that's a result. Won't be a direct comparison though - you fixed your motor mounts!!!
Quote from: Carolyn on May 7, 2019, 09:36
Quote from: shnazzle on May 7, 2019, 09:32
Mounts much better this morning. Trial-fitted the damper and it now aligns nicely with the rear frame. Will see if I can fit tonight and compare with my existing damper tomorrow on the drive to work
Well that's a result. Won't be a direct comparison though - you fixed your motor mounts!!!
Well today I drove to work with fixed mounts and old damper. So tomorrow, fixed mounts and new damper :)
Fitted. Engine has dropped again. Nothing a few washers couldn't sort.
Will order new mounts soon
Compare of old vs new;
A fair bit stiffer (not surprisingly) with a rather large jump in cabin vibrations.
Positive of this is that gear shifts are even crisper now. The car feels and sounds very "racey" now.
I might get a well-fitting rubber o-ring and add it inside the damper to pick up some of the vibrations.
All in all a great bit of kit for that more "race car" feel.
Obviously this is in combination with firming up my mounts (which hasn't been 100% successful).
Quote from: shnazzle on May 8, 2019, 08:59
Compare of old vs new;
A fair bit stiffer (not surprisingly) with a rather large jump in cabin vibrations.
Positive of this is that gear shifts are even crisper now. The car feels and sounds very "racey" now.
I might get a well-fitting rubber o-ring and add it inside the damper to pick up some of the vibrations.
All in all a great bit of kit for that more "race car" feel.
Obviously this is in combination with firming up my mounts (which hasn't been 100% successful).
Shame about the mounts. You could get some used ones off Rutland and Sikkaflex them before you put them in.
The extra vibration doesn't sound right. I certainly didn't experience that. If the centre of the rose joint is contacting its mount, that would cause more vibration. But I think you've now got stiff mounts that are some compressed, you're getting the effect of PU inserts. (Which do cause more cabin vibration).
I doubt messing with the innards of the damper will improve things.
Have a look at my photos of the damper dismantled.
It makes little if at all sense to change anything inside.
I noticed nó change in vibrations whatsover btw.