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Title: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 09:51
Hi all,

I'm currently considering switching my daily driver 2005 1.2 Corsa up with something less rubbish, less troublesome, and more interesting. I will be doing around 75 miles a day in it. I currently have my eye on this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-MR2-VVT-1-RED-2005/254197576318

Unfortunately this has actually been recorded as a Cat S, despite being sold here as Cat N. But the picture of damage in the picture stacks up with all the checks I have done, and seller says 2 panels and wheel hub were replaced as part of the repairs. There is no service history unfortunately. These are the negative bits.

Positives, I like the colour, like the interior, it has very low miles, is a 2005 facelift, etc. Priced at 3000.. maybe a bit steep but maybe there is some room to negotiate, I'm considering going to see it and get a PX on my Corsa.

Thoughts please all?
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 9, 2019, 10:39
Seems like a nice car... from the photos at least!

Honestly, you need to drive more than one before buying. Because these cars are so sensitive to alignment, tyres, tyre pressures and general maintenance of the suspension you will be amazed at the difference you will feel.

If you can wait 3 weeks - what I'd suggest doing is coming along to the National meet in Wrexham (Ding Day - have a look in the events section) and there will you will be afforded the opportunity to see 40+ cars all in one spot and build your experience as to what to look for. It's not too far from Stourbridge.

The good thing with these cars is that nothing is really "unfixable".. but I think until you took that car for a proper alignment, you wouldn't know if the repairs were done properly? Maybe as part of the test drive book it into a local garage for it to be checked.. it'll cost you money, but you'll at least know..



Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: 1979scotte on May 9, 2019, 11:01
Go and look at it see how it drives.
The more you drive the more you understand how they are supposed to drive.

For me it's done less than 3k miles per year and has no service history that points to a lack of maintenance these cars need regular oil and filter changes or you get problems.

What tyres and in what sizes?
Does the handbrake work?
Is the rear subframe solid or Swiss cheese?

Coming from a Corsa are you going to find the lack of luggage space and only 1 spare seat a problem?

Is your commute on nice country roads or motorways?
For straight line pace they get shown up by your mum's turbo diesel easy it's corners they crave.

All things to consider.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 12:27
Points considered.. I can deal with the luggage space and mileage as I never really used the back seats or boot in my Corsa anyway nor did I take passengers really.

Yeah I am a bit worried about the service history. I'll check the condition of the oil on the dipstick to check it's not completely gristly when I go see it but a service will be the first thing I get done on it. I will try to get an alignment chucked in too if we can work out a deal if not I'll get it done myself.

I'll try and check the condition of the subframe on the viewing, is it visible by looking under the rear of the car? I'll check handbrake operation and tyres too and how it drives.

My commute is a mixture of both, the car doesn't need to be quick or have much power this will be my daily I have a weekend car on the side which will give me the extra kicks.

Car seems to be somewhat cheap to run and doable as a daily driver according to reviews and the bonus of it being a better drive than my Corsa is appealing. I just hope it's more reliable, that whole car was made of cheese, I had to do more work on it than my BMW M3 and the Corsa has half the miles and 2 years younger than the M3.

I do a lot of maintenance and DIY on my cars myself so I'll be able to get my prospective purchase to a very good condition eventually.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: StuC on May 9, 2019, 12:30
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  9, 2019, 11:01
Go and look at it see how it drives.
The more you drive the more you understand how they are supposed to drive.

This ^^^ also look at others. So when you find the one you want... the rose tinted glasses have less of an effect! ;)

Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Carolyn on May 9, 2019, 12:40
Take a flashlight with you for inspecting underneath.  Even with the bottom cover ('nappy') on the car, it is possible to see the part of the subframe that rusts the worst.  That it is just above the off-side suspension mounts and exhaust on the bottom of the subframe.  They can have massive holes in them!

Generally, these cars don't suffer too much from rust.  dirty black oil is the biggest no-no.

Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 13:19
Good pointers, thanks. Will definitely have a torch with me. There is also this one closer to me which I will also go see:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-MR2-2003/173894979066?hash=item287cf2cdfa:g:obYAAOSwfINcqlb5
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 9, 2019, 13:36
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 13:19
Good pointers, thanks. Will definitely have a torch with me. There is also this one closer to me which I will also go see:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-MR2-2003/173894979066?hash=item287cf2cdfa:g:obYAAOSwfINcqlb5

Personally I'd rather go for this one over the sable... curious as to how they managed to break coil springs though! (Have a look at it's mot history (https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/).
But anyway - that's purely gut feel.

As said before you need to crawl around the car and inspect the subframe. One thing to note is that the engine cover has a missing nut... that's a bit weird as it's really simple to put back on.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 13:52
Quote from: jvanzyl on May  9, 2019, 13:36
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 13:19
Good pointers, thanks. Will definitely have a torch with me. There is also this one closer to me which I will also go see:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-MR2-2003/173894979066?hash=item287cf2cdfa:g:obYAAOSwfINcqlb5

Personally I'd rather go for this one over the sable... curious as to how they managed to break coil springs though! (Have a look at it's mot history (https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/).
But anyway - that's purely gut feel.

As said before you need to crawl around the car and inspect the subframe. One thing to note is that the engine cover has a missing nut... that's a bit weird as it's really simple to put back on.

They both started to corrode so I guess it was a matter of time. Are broken springs not common on this car? I'm no stranger to broken springs.. my Alfa 159 broke one on the rear and the Wife's CLS broke both it's rears!

Missing nut is strange, incompetent work/garage perhaps.

May I ask why this one over the Sable?

Are brake lines a big job?
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 9, 2019, 13:57
I'd personally prefer to buy from a private seller... that's just me. The MOT history seems more realistic on this one as well - the other one has not got a single thing wrong recorded on it... it's a bit too perfect.

Then I guess there's the accident damage.. It just puts me off. If I were deliberately going for a copart one then fair enough and you'd get it cheap.. but not at £3k
Wow - I'd not encountered broken springs so much!
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: james_ly on May 9, 2019, 14:15
If you're planning to sell it in future, probably easier to just not buy a cat write off car... but with your mileage I assume that you're pretty much going to run it into the ground?
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: ManInDandism on May 9, 2019, 14:22
Quote from: jvanzyl on May  9, 2019, 13:57
I'd personally prefer to buy from a private seller... that's just me. The MOT history seems more realistic on this one as well - the other one has not got a single thing wrong recorded on it... it's a bit too perfect.

Then I guess there's the accident damage.. It just puts me off. If I were deliberately going for a copart one then fair enough and you'd get it cheap.. but not at £3k
Wow - I'd not encountered broken springs so much!

Sable one is likely to have been regularly serviced immediately prior to being MOT'd....and you find that a turnoff?!!!
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 14:25
Quote from: james_ly on May  9, 2019, 14:15
If you're planning to sell it in future, probably easier to just not buy a cat write off car... but with your mileage I assume that you're pretty much going to run it into the ground?

That's indeed the plan. But I'd need to have some more money knocked off still because running a 3k car into the ground doesn't seem logical. Having said that, I have never considered a written off car. This one is more convincing though, as I have got salvage reports from the seller and vcheckuk, showing the car in this same state at the salvage auction and the repairs that the seller told me about make sense. I could also get an AutoAlign check done if the car is genuinely repaired properly which would change it from category write off to category inspected on the HPI register. Just to add a little weight to any potential sell on later.

Obviously I have a few things to check, but I feel quite confident about it. You can't argue the mileage is low, and condition also looks good. From pictures of course.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 9, 2019, 14:50
Quote from: ManInDandism on May  9, 2019, 14:22
Quote from: jvanzyl on May  9, 2019, 13:57
I'd personally prefer to buy from a private seller... that's just me. The MOT history seems more realistic on this one as well - the other one has not got a single thing wrong recorded on it... it's a bit too perfect.

Then I guess there's the accident damage.. It just puts me off. If I were deliberately going for a copart one then fair enough and you'd get it cheap.. but not at £3k
Wow - I'd not encountered broken springs so much!

Sable one is likely to have been regularly serviced immediately prior to being MOT'd....and you find that a turnoff?!!!

There is no service history - all you've got is a bunch of MOT passes with never a single thing wrong, not even a wiper blade comment... I'd say its a good sign of a "friendly" MOT tester.
I'd rather find one where someone is calling out every single niggle and then I can make my own decision about whether it's important or not.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: ManInDandism on May 9, 2019, 15:09
Quote from: jvanzyl on May  9, 2019, 14:50
Quote from: ManInDandism on May  9, 2019, 14:22
Quote from: jvanzyl on May  9, 2019, 13:57
I'd personally prefer to buy from a private seller... that's just me. The MOT history seems more realistic on this one as well - the other one has not got a single thing wrong recorded on it... it's a bit too perfect.

Then I guess there's the accident damage.. It just puts me off. If I were deliberately going for a copart one then fair enough and you'd get it cheap.. but not at £3k
Wow - I'd not encountered broken springs so much!

Sable one is likely to have been regularly serviced immediately prior to being MOT'd....and you find that a turnoff?!!!


There is no service history - all you've got is a bunch of MOT passes with never a single thing wrong, not even a wiper blade comment... I'd say its a good sign of a "friendly" MOT tester.
I'd rather find one where someone is calling out every single niggle and then I can make my own decision about whether it's important or not.

Fair enough. 

Cars do go into a garage to be both serviced and MOT'd at the same time. So they fix whatever needs fixing first and then carry out the MOT.  Is a stringent test so not sure haw far 'friendly' stretches if they seek to retain their status as a testing station.  But once you have the V5 to hand you can now identify the garage(s) that carried out the tests.  With any luck they may even still have some of the service history to hand.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: 1979scotte on May 9, 2019, 15:38
Friendly MOT testers are everywhere.

My last MR2 purchase came with valid MOT and should have failed it had 2 seriously dangerous issues. Rear subframe was almost in 2 pieces for a start.

@B_Tank88 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25764) what's the car for kicks? Unless it's a lotus or better it won't be more fun than a 2.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 15:44
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  9, 2019, 15:38
Friendly MOT testers are everywhere.

My last MR2 purchase came with valid MOT and should have failed it had 2 seriously dangerous issues. Rear subframe was almost in 2 pieces for a start.

@B_Tank88 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25764) what's the car for kicks? Unless it's a lotus or better it won't be more fun than a 2.

It's an E46 M3 Coupe SMG. Fantastic car that I love to bits. 110k miles and still going like a champ, the engine is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: 1979scotte on May 9, 2019, 15:53
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 15:44
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  9, 2019, 15:38
Friendly MOT testers are everywhere.

My last MR2 purchase came with valid MOT and should have failed it had 2 seriously dangerous issues. Rear subframe was almost in 2 pieces for a start.

@B_Tank88 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25764) what's the car for kicks? Unless it's a lotus or better it won't be more fun than a 2.

It's an E46 M3 Coupe SMG. Fantastic car that I love to bits. 110k miles and still going like a champ, the engine is a masterpiece.

You'll have more fun in a 2.
Engines in the right place for a start and it's half a ton lighter.

@jvanzyl (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=22834) hey at least it's not an Audi  ;)
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 9, 2019, 15:59
Haha,

What if it was an mx-engineinwrongplace ?

Edit: Love it!  :))
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Topdownman on May 9, 2019, 17:24
Welcome,

I would echo what everyone else has said about driving lots of 2s as the difference between them can be night and day.
Try not to have a favoured car if possible but if you must, drive that one last!

Hopefully you have found the buyers guide and so know what to look for.

The best buy will be a car that has had a full suspension refresh and has a good set of appropriate tyres as sorting that out will be a grand on top of the purchase price. (They all need a suspension refresh due to their age).

A write off isnt necessarily the end of the world (due to the value of the cars and a new part/paint repair costs) and it seems to happen most of the time now in accidents but it will affect the resale value.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: 1979scotte on May 9, 2019, 20:15
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 15:59
Haha,

What if it was an mx-engineinwrongplace ?

Edit: Love it!  :))

You like that do you?
Twas my idea if I remember correctly implemented by my minion @shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356)
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: shnazzle on May 9, 2019, 21:09
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  9, 2019, 20:15
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 15:59
Haha,

What if it was an mx-engineinwrongplace ?

Edit: Love it!  :))

You like that do you?
Twas my idea if I remember correctly implemented by my minion @shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356)
Pleased to serve you, master
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Call the midlife! on May 9, 2019, 21:29
Quote from: shnazzle on May  9, 2019, 21:09
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  9, 2019, 20:15
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 15:59
Haha,

What if it was an mx-engineinwrongplace ?

Edit: Love it!  :))

You like that do you?
Twas my idea if I remember correctly implemented by my minion @shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356)
Pleased to serve you, master
That all went a bit dark all of a sudden, not sure if you're Smeagol or Scotte is Christian Grey...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: 1979scotte on May 9, 2019, 22:19
Quote from: Call the midlife! on May  9, 2019, 21:29
Quote from: shnazzle on May  9, 2019, 21:09
Quote from: 1979scotte on May  9, 2019, 20:15
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May  9, 2019, 15:59
Haha,

What if it was an mx-engineinwrongplace ?

Edit: Love it!  :))

You like that do you?
Twas my idea if I remember correctly implemented by my minion @shnazzle (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=18356)
Pleased to serve you, master
That all went a bit dark all of a sudden, not sure if you're Smeagol or Scotte is Christian Grey...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Think the wife would prefer Mr Grey
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 22, 2019, 20:11
May be going to see this one tomorrow.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173901753422
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 23, 2019, 18:26
So I went to see it, first one I've seen.

Good points

Paintwork good
Interior excellent
Drove well
Engine sounded good smooth throughout rev range
Oil quality good
All fluid levels good, coolant nice and clean
Brakes straight and true
Exhaust new
Radiator new
New tyres 155 15 on front bridgestone
New tyres 215 16 on rear dunlop (I think!)
Handles bumps well no noises

Bad points
Slight constant brake disc rubbing grinding noise during drive. Did not go away after heavy braking.
Corrosion on one front spring
Corrosion on virtually all suspension components
Surface corrosion on rear sub frame, but solid certainly no holes even after knocking knuckles all over it.
Corrosion on brake calipers.
Nappy broken and removed
A few creaks when doing lock to lock steering stationary

He wants 2k if he gets it through the MOT.

Seems like a decent car I'm sure all cars this age will have rust but I would like to see another one anyway
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 24, 2019, 11:52
Going to try see this one at the weekend

https://www.gumtree.com/p/toyota/toyota-mr2-roadster-2004/1341020616
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jonbill on May 24, 2019, 12:37
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May 24, 2019, 11:52
Going to try see this one at the weekend

https://www.gumtree.com/p/toyota/toyota-mr2-roadster-2004/1341020616
Looks nice and a good price.
That's Tesco car park!
Usual caveats apply- subframe, handbrake and oil level and condition and engine noise.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Gaz mr-s on May 24, 2019, 12:48
Has he supplied you with the Reg' number to look up the MOT history?

The ad' wording makes him sound like a Trader.   No useful information that someone who knows these cars would state.  No pic' of driver's seat bolster.....  Hmm.....

Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Joesson on May 24, 2019, 13:22
The radio aerial is in the up position. With ignition off this should retract. Either the car is stationary with ignition on or the aerial retracting mechanism is out of order. Not a game changer but perhaps a small discount .
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 24, 2019, 13:28
Yes I asked for the reg number. The last MOT fail was bad according to the MOT there was a lot corrosion picked up. He said that MOT tester was very overzealous and he took it to another one who said it's all surface corrosion and passed it.

Seller said this to me before I checked the history, he also said he has jacks and ramps so I can look underneath which I will definitely do.

The one that is of most concern to me is the area around suspension mountings so I'll have to check these thoroughly.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 24, 2019, 13:36
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May 24, 2019, 13:28
Yes I asked for the reg number. The last MOT fail was bad according to the MOT there was a lot corrosion picked up. He said that MOT tester was very overzealous and he took it to another one who said it's all surface corrosion and passed it.

Seller said this to me before I checked the history, he also said he has jacks and ramps so I can look underneath which I will definitely do.

The one that is of most concern to me is the area around suspension mountings so I'll have to check these thoroughly.

new crossmember - £350 odd
suspension struts refresh £700 odd
new bushings (poly) all round £360 odd...

Labour to fit all that if you were to be paying someone is roughly £600 or less

so call it 2k and you have brand new suspension all round and no worries about the cross member. If you like the car then cool..
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 26, 2019, 09:40
How much would getting a replacement roof cost? Where can you get this done?
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Ardent on May 26, 2019, 09:47
Jack smith in swansea.

Do a searchhere. Very good value.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Ardent on May 26, 2019, 09:49
@B_Tank88 (https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=25764)

Just spotted LE9 in your location.
Desford?
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 26, 2019, 10:16
Earl Shilton, very close to Desford.

I like this car but it needs some repairs on the roof. A lot cleaner underneath than the last one I seen for a better price.

Also both dipped beams aren't working, I'm hoping they're bulbs only or could it be something else?
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Ardent on May 26, 2019, 16:00
Likely bulbs as iffy headlight wiring is not a reported issue.
Cloudy lenses yes.

As the suspicious lot we are. If something as simple as bulbs has been overlooked/ignored what else.........
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 26, 2019, 16:27
Well, he replaced the bulbs and now I've bought it! £

1400 because the roof has some holes, but hes included 2 stormsure kits which will do a temporary repair to the roof and this will be my new daily.

It's not perfect of course but for the price it's really not bad at all.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Topdownman on May 26, 2019, 16:55
Congratulations!

Now you've got one, will you be coming to Ding day on saturday?

(Get some pictures up....).
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Ardent on May 26, 2019, 17:09
Can feel a mini meet coming on.

There are a good few leicestershire and Notts owners on here now, must be able to arrange a little meet up.

Note to self; start new thread.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 26, 2019, 17:34
I also need a front fog light housing, it's all powdery and smashed. Hope it's not a big job to replace.

I'll get pics up soon when I've done the little bit of TLC it needs.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Carolyn on May 26, 2019, 17:39
Quote from: Ardent on May 26, 2019, 17:09
Can feel a mini meet coming on.

There are a good few leicestershire and Notts owners on here now, must be able to arrange a little meet up.

Note to self; start new thread.

Sunday 14th July, Sywell!
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 28, 2019, 13:21
So the car is currently at father in law's place in Manchester where I bought it, I'll be collecting it in a couple of weeks and then put my Corsa on for sale.

I used the stormsure kits to attempt a repair on the roof but it was very fiddly and the tears were right next to the roof bars/mechanisms where access is tricky so I couldn't to the tidyest of jobs. I'll have to see how it looks when it dries. If I'm not happy with it then I'm going to have to consider a replacement roof.

List of items to do currently:
Potential roof replacement
Front foglight replacement (cracked)
Handbrake adjustment (hold is very weak)
Glovebox latch is very sticky and sometimes doesn't close

Looking forward to picking it up in a couple of weeks I've already ordered the foglight and bulb, hopefully the handbrake adjustment is pretty straight forward providing the calipers aren't seized.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 28, 2019, 14:41
Roof replacement booked with Jack Smith first week of August.  8)

It's a bonus he works on Saturday's as it means I don't have to take a day off work, more than happy to wait 2 months for that.

Quoted price 330 inc vat, black with glass screen. The glass screen is on exchange basis so will take mine and he will use another he has in stock.

Rang a few places closer to me they charge near enough a grand.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 28, 2019, 14:48
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May 28, 2019, 14:41
Roof replacement booked with Jack Smith first week of August.  8)

It's a bonus he works on Saturday's as it means I don't have to take a day off work, more than happy to wait 2 months for that.

Quoted price 330 inc vat, black with glass screen. The glass screen is on exchange basis so will take mine and he will use another he has in stock.

Rang a few places closer to me they charge near enough a grand.

You sure you want to have a black one? You've got the red seats, so if you went for a red/maroon roof it'd look quite nice.. have a look at some of the other sables on the forum/google and you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Joesson on May 28, 2019, 17:32
Ears* have not been mentioned on here in sometime!
My understanding is that Jack will provide the necessary tunnel like pocket to accommodate the anti- ear strap if requested prior to the event.

*Ears, protrusions of the hood when in a folded position.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 29, 2019, 10:04
Quote from: jvanzyl on May 28, 2019, 14:48
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May 28, 2019, 14:41
Roof replacement booked with Jack Smith first week of August.  8)

It's a bonus he works on Saturday's as it means I don't have to take a day off work, more than happy to wait 2 months for that.

Quoted price 330 inc vat, black with glass screen. The glass screen is on exchange basis so will take mine and he will use another he has in stock.

Rang a few places closer to me they charge near enough a grand.

You sure you want to have a black one? You've got the red seats, so if you went for a red/maroon roof it'd look quite nice.. have a look at some of the other sables on the forum/google and you'll see what I mean.

Yeah I thought about the red, Jack mentioned that the red does tend to fade after some time and recommended the black so I just said black is fine. I can always change my mind until a few weeks before. I might just ask him to do my broken foglight too if I give him the part.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: Carolyn on May 29, 2019, 10:36
He does roofs.  Period!!  Oh, and politics.... :D
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 29, 2019, 16:33
Quote from: Carolyn on May 29, 2019, 10:36
He does roofs.  Period!!  Oh, and politics.... :D
Lol....  Even IF the red fades over time- and I've not seen one yet. It's not that much to put a new one on or use some kind of product to restore the colour?

Go for red!

And yeah- if don't want to be there talking politics your need to excuse yourself immediately..

Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: househead on May 29, 2019, 17:19
Red roof on Sable mr2 looks awesome. Not sure if my mohair (apparently) is from Swansea or not as it was replaced (in 2016) before I bought it and it was the ex-ex-owner that didn't keep receipts etc. What I do know though, is it's a very good roof and as I say, looks amazing on the dark grey body. Cleaned it with Renovo yesterday and was going to waterproof-treat it today, until it started smashing it down outside :(
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on May 30, 2019, 10:26
Quote from: jvanzyl on May 29, 2019, 16:33
Quote from: Carolyn on May 29, 2019, 10:36
He does roofs.  Period!!  Oh, and politics.... :D
Lol....  Even IF the red fades over time- and I've not seen one yet. It's not that much to put a new one on or use some kind of product to restore the colour?

Go for red!

And yeah- if don't want to be there talking politics your need to excuse yourself immediately..

May not be much of a problem as on the phone I could barely understand the Welsh fellow so I'd just be agreeing with everything.

Go on then twist my arm, I'll call him up and ask for Red roof.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: jvanzyl on May 30, 2019, 10:28
Quote from: B_Tank88 on May 30, 2019, 10:26
Quote from: jvanzyl on May 29, 2019, 16:33
Quote from: Carolyn on May 29, 2019, 10:36
He does roofs.  Period!!  Oh, and politics.... :D
Lol....  Even IF the red fades over time- and I've not seen one yet. It's not that much to put a new one on or use some kind of product to restore the colour?

Go for red!

And yeah- if don't want to be there talking politics your need to excuse yourself immediately..

May not be much of a problem as on the phone I could barely understand the Welsh fellow so I'd just be agreeing with everything.

Go on then twist my arm, I'll call him up and ask for Red roof.

;D ;D ;D Good stuff! who says peer pressure is a bad thing??
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on June 17, 2019, 09:12
Collected this from Manchester yesterday!

Did the drive to Leicestershire and today to work without any problems at all. Really handles like a little fly, it's a lot of fun.

I'll make a thread on the new owners section soon when I get a chance to take some pictures, got a few little things I'd like to sort out on it then I hope it will make a good little daily.

Nappy is a bit loose/wonky
Need to replace foglight
Roof replacement (booked with Jack Smith)
Try to sort some squeaks and rattles out (there are many!)
Handbrake cable tighten
Polish headlights lenses (really brings the otherwise good condition front end down). Any other suggestions welcome on this.

So a few little bits to do, really does drive well so hopefully nothing mechanical needed. There is a slight shimmy from the rear end, when getting off the power after hard acceleration that I notice, but I think I'll live with this. The steering is ultra sharp.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: B_Tank88 on July 18, 2019, 10:49
So I've been dailying this for a few weeks now, and I am enjoying it. Slowly been working through it's little issues.

Replaced foglight
Didn't bother taking the bumper off, loosening the stone guard gave enough space and visibility to get to the clip on the bumper to push the foglight out. But.. none of the foglights work! Investigation for another day.

Nappy
Had a look at the Nappy fitment, it felt loose but actually it was screwed in all around. One screw on the inside was missing and held with cable tie. I had bought a set of stainless steel nappy screws from MR2 Ben and I went about swapping the old ones. The 3 on the outside came out without any problems. But I ended up shearing off the one left on the inside.. I'm just gonna cable tie it just like the opposite side!

Unfortunately I also spotted some oil residue that seemed to be running down from the front of the engine on the bulkhead side, and down onto the sump near where the sump bolt is. I hope it's not too bad of a leak. I feel the source of it may be a nightmare to get to as it's on the front side of the engine.

Roof replacement at Jack Smith in 2 weeks.

Squeaks and rattles are really bad to be honest but I'm just going to live with them while turning the stereo up.

Sorted the handbrake yesterday! Somebody had already attempted it as one centre console screw was missing, and another was the wrong one and not screwed in at all. I think somebody tried it without taking the seats out, not sure how successful they were as the handbrake was literally useless. Anyway I took the seats out and removed the console. Followed the guide on here. I did notice that one cable seemed to have more play than the other, and the one with less play, didn't seem to move much. Anyway did the brake pump thing and tightened the cables a significant amount, now the car will hold on a gentle slope at 5 clicks which will keep me going for now. I hope the difference in play on the cables isn't due to dodgy caliper, but the car definitely brakes straight and true.

Need to get headlight lenses polished.

Fixed the engine hood support bar, some previous owner numbskull had put it through the wrong grommet hole and it didn't attach to the hole, so I removed it and put it in the correct hole on the right side.

The car is indeed a lot of fun. I love the steering rack, it's very short and very responsive with zero play. Getting used to the weight transfer in an MR car is quite interesting, the lift off oversteer feeling quite strange but I love how the front end will level out while applying power. A lot of grip in this car.

I also calculate MPG the other day. I did 364 miles since last full fill up. New fill up I managed to get in 40.8 litres. So if my maths are correct:

40.8 litres to imperial gallons = 8.974745
364 miles / 8.974745 = 40.55825541561348

40.5 mpg?? Wow.
Title: Re: Looking at purchasing..
Post by: 1979scotte on July 18, 2019, 10:51
Glad you can see past the bad points to what is a really fun ownership experience