This seems to be a recent thing. It's not cranking any longer than normal but it sounds more spluttery and less assured of a start than it did before. Seems to happen with a cold or warm start. Cold and warm idle are unchanged, and I don't notice any difference otherwise. Sparks are only 5k miles old, oil is <3k miles old. Oil was recently topped up, dipstick appeared to show it very close to "L". Put maybe a half litre in and now it's up at "F". I do hate that dipstick, it's extremely difficult to read. Is it possible I've overfilled, I wonder?
Any ideas what the cause could be? Should I just ignore it?
I would ignore until more symptoms occur... thinking what's happened to mine it could be o2 sensors, minor exhaust leak?
L to F is 1.3litre
Quote from: Ardent on February 9, 2020, 18:23L to F is 1.3litre
Good to know.
But it does highlight that at least one of the "readings" I made of it was wrong :))
My understanding though is that 0.5l overfill *should be* ok. Source is some tech service bulletin where they were putting an extra half litre in, so suggests the engine can at least use it.
@househead Mark, you likely did read about any extra 0.5L of oil being OK, but this referred to cars other than a 2.
This was discussed in comparisons of Pfl and fl:
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?msg=813633
Quote from: Joesson on February 9, 2020, 19:37@househead
Mark, you likely did read about any extra 0.5L of oil being OK, but this referred to cars other than a 2.
This was discussed in comparisons of Pfl and fl:
https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?msg=813633
Ah thanks for the clarification!
It's due another oil change in 1k miles (doing it every 3k). It had definitely burnt or lose *some* oil.
Got me thinking and worrying now!
Do you know how much oil over how many miles?
Anything less than a litre over 612 miles
(1000km) is in spec
Quote from: Ardent on February 9, 2020, 22:00Do you know how much oil over how many miles?
Anything less than a litre over 612 miles
(1000km) is in spec
I'm pretty sure whatever it's lost is still in spec.
When I topped up, I read it as being about 20% from L to F (took a few readings and flat ground etc). I put about 0.5l in and it was up at F again.
I think if anything, I've read it too low initially.
I found (came up with) this as a guide for myself.
we know L to F is 1300ml
Between L and F is 27mm on the stick
1300/27 = 48ml/mm
So lets say everything is topped up spot on to the F mark. Some time later, you check the stick and see the oil level is 5mm down (visual judgement) from the F mark. So for simple maths. 5 x 50ml, you need to measure out and add 250ml.
Quote from: Ardent on February 10, 2020, 00:14I found (came up with) this as a guide for myself.
we know L to F is 1300ml
Between L and F is 27mm on the stick
1300/27 = 48ml/mm
So lets say everything is topped up spot on to the F mark. Some time later, you check the stick and see the oil level is 5mm down (visual judgement) from the F mark. So for simple maths. 5 x 50ml, you need to measure out and add 250ml.
This is a great way to keep on top of the problem.So just so im clear for us Newbies it is acceptable for the engine to use a litre of oil every 600 miles?
Oil usage is written into the owners manual. You'd be surprised how many other marques also have a thirst which is "approved" in their manuals also.
Quote from: Rushy67 on February 13, 2020, 21:26Quote from: Ardent on February 10, 2020, 00:14I found (came up with) this as a guide for myself.
we know L to F is 1300ml
Between L and F is 27mm on the stick
1300/27 = 48ml/mm
So lets say everything is topped up spot on to the F mark. Some time later, you check the stick and see the oil level is 5mm down (visual judgement) from the F mark. So for simple maths. 5 x 50ml, you need to measure out and add 250ml.
This is a great way to keep on top of the problem.So just so im clear for us Newbies it is acceptable for the engine to use a litre of oil every 600 miles?
Yep! This is deemed acceptable by the manufacturer. Though owners often view it differently.
But a scan of the owners manual will confirm.