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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: panderoo on July 30, 2020, 21:14

Title: extended wheel studs
Post by: panderoo on July 30, 2020, 21:14
Anyone know where i can source some extended rear wheel studs to fit some 15mm spacers ?

 
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: shnazzle on July 30, 2020, 21:25
Funnily enough, I just bought some.
Just ebay.
These are the ones I got
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362890386279

Can't verify that they fit just yet but have no reason to believe they won't
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: panderoo on July 30, 2020, 22:15
Hmm, the splines look suspiciously like the ones on some I bought.

The problem with them was that the splines are finer than the ones on the stud I removed.
I could have smashed them in, but thought best not to force it and make a mess of the hub.

Let me know how you get on @shnazzle

Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: shnazzle on July 30, 2020, 22:40
Quote from: panderoo on July 30, 2020, 22:15Hmm, the splines look suspiciously like the ones on some I bought.

The problem with them was that the splines are finer than the ones on the stud I removed.
I could have smashed them in, but thought best not to force it and make a mess of the hub.

Let me know how you get on @shnazzle


Interesting. I have to admit I had no idea what the spline size was so I winged it.

I just went for 50mm, m12x1.5.
No idea when I can do mine, so you'll probably beat me to it to find out
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: shnazzle on July 30, 2020, 22:51
A couple pics of the one I have. 
The spline seems to be about 0.9 to 1.0 pitch, which is indeed rather tight. I suspect the stock ones are 1.25.
Dammit.

IMG_20200730_224351_crop_12.jpg
IMG_20200730_224429_crop_88.jpg
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: jvanzyl on July 31, 2020, 07:13
Here's the geniune normal replacement:
https://www.roughtrax4x4.com/genuine-toyota-front-wheel-stud.html

have a look round the site for one's that are longer I reckon...
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: shnazzle on July 31, 2020, 09:13
https://www.roughtrax4x4.com/toyota-4x4-parts/axle-rear/rear-wheel-studs/genuine-toyota-front-or-rear-wheel-stud.html

These look to have a very similar spline to the ones I got. 
So, not much clarity from that site as two genuine Toyota wheel bolts look rather different.
I'll just have to see.
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: panderoo on July 31, 2020, 09:19
I'm struggling to find any conclusive information other than H&R studs that ship with their spacer kit are right and also ARP bolts, but I already have spacers and I'm struggling to justify another £100 to buy a new set of spacers or ARP bolts.

I've emailed the company i bought the studs from JJCRACEANDRALLY on ebay to see if they have any that actually fit.



Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: panderoo on July 31, 2020, 09:22
any thoughts on this from the grayston website... Hubs to be drilled to 14mm:

12mm 1.5 MITSUBISHI, TOYOTA,FORD ESCORT MK2 DISC BRAKES
*((NOT RS MODEL) (OLD VAUXHALL/OPEL)
Standard plus 13mm 51mm long 14.3mm spline diameter Part No SS38
Standard plus 25mm 63mm long 14.3mm spline diameter Part No SS39
*Hubs to be drilled 14mm to take larger spline

http://www.grayston.biz/wheelnutmenu.htm
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: panderoo on July 31, 2020, 10:13
I messaged another ebay seller and the response was:

New message from: mteconlineshop

The spline count will be different yes, you wont get any the same as OE Toyota ones as they varied from car to car, as long as you need 14.3mm spline studs then once they are pressed in they will be all ok.

I asked further:

So it is just a case of pressing them in anyway ?

It's very difficult to find anyone to confirm that's what to do.

New message from: mteconlineshop

If you have already bought some and they fit the hub do not worry about the spline count as once there in they will not move anywhere.


So it looks like a case of just smashing them in and dont EVER remove them  :-X  :-\
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: shnazzle on July 31, 2020, 11:02
Quote from: panderoo on July 31, 2020, 10:13I messaged another ebay seller and the response was:

New message from: mteconlineshop

The spline count will be different yes, you wont get any the same as OE Toyota ones as they varied from car to car, as long as you need 14.3mm spline studs then once they are pressed in they will be all ok.

I asked further:

So it is just a case of pressing them in anyway ?

It's very difficult to find anyone to confirm that's what to do.

New message from: mteconlineshop

If you have already bought some and they fit the hub do not worry about the spline count as once there in they will not move anywhere.


So it looks like a case of just smashing them in and dont EVER remove them  :-X  :-\
Nice! Thank you mate
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: gon on July 31, 2020, 11:03
wouldn't advise "smashing" as wheel bearings might not like it.

But I have pressed those in and use 25mm spacers without a problem.
to press them in DIY mode you can use their own thread with plenty of lube, some spacers (old m14 nuts?) and some lug nuts but be prepared to lose about 1 lug nut per corner ...
Title: Re: extended wheel studs
Post by: panderoo on July 31, 2020, 11:08
Quote from: gon on July 31, 2020, 11:03wouldn't advise "smashing" as wheel bearings might not like it.

But I have pressed those in and use 25mm spacers without a problem.
to press them in DIY mode you can use their own thread with plenty of lube, some spacers (old m14 nuts?) and some lug nuts but be prepared to lose about 1 lug nut per corner ...

Yes, I wasn't going to SMASH in the literal sense 👍🏻 ;-)