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The Workshop => General => Topic started by: Carolyn on October 1, 2020, 15:10

Title: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Carolyn on October 1, 2020, 15:10
The yellow beast has arrived.

Now we have two supercharged MR2s on the premises, alongside a rather special MR S.

What fun.

loads of work to do on Scotte's, but nothing tooo daunting.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on October 1, 2020, 15:17
Youve got a roots and a centrifugal just need a whipple to complete the set.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Joesson on October 1, 2020, 15:48
Quote from: 1979scotte on October  1, 2020, 15:17Youve got a roots and a centrifugal just need a whipple to complete the set.

Well, now the mystery (for me) is solved. I should have guessed. Be careful though, because when it's fixed it will go like a rocket!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on October 1, 2020, 19:59
Quote from: Joesson on October  1, 2020, 15:48
Quote from: 1979scotte on October  1, 2020, 15:17Youve got a roots and a centrifugal just need a whipple to complete the set.

Well, now the mystery (for me) is solved. I should have guessed. Be careful though, because when it's fixed it will go like a rocket!

It really wasn't a secret Tony.IMG-20201001-WA0000.jpg


Needs an arrival pic too
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Joesson on October 1, 2020, 21:06
Quote from: 1979scotte on October  1, 2020, 19:59
Quote from: Joesson on October  1, 2020, 15:48
Quote from: 1979scotte on October  1, 2020, 15:17Youve got a roots and a centrifugal just need a whipple to complete the set.

Well, now the mystery (for me) is solved. I should have guessed. Be careful though, because when it's fixed it will go like a rocket!

It really wasn't a secret Tony.IMG-20201001-WA0000.jpg


Needs an arrival pic too


Cool that you arranged for a matching trailer!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Ardent on October 1, 2020, 22:00
Quote from: Joesson on October  1, 2020, 15:48Be careful though, because when it's fixed it will go like a rocket!
C'mon; it's not like a rocket scientist is working on it. Oh!, hang on; that's exactly who's casting her micron level of attention trained eye on it.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on October 1, 2020, 22:01
Is it finished yet?
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Ardent on October 1, 2020, 22:29
 :))
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: StuC on October 2, 2020, 21:42
Quote from: Carolyn on October  1, 2020, 15:10The yellow beast has arrived.

Now we have two supercharged MR2s on the premises, alongside a rather special MR S.

What fun.

loads of work to do on Scotte's, but nothing tooo daunting.

I, for one, feel Bee is in the best hands. 👍👍
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Chilli Girl on October 2, 2020, 21:47
Definitely. ;D
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Carolyn on October 3, 2020, 16:52
Right now - five roadsters on the premises.  Nuts!

The yellow beast, the blue S/C car, My MR S, Jon's PFL Roadster, and the blue TF. 

Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Joesson on October 3, 2020, 16:59
Quote from: Carolyn on October  3, 2020, 16:52Right now - five roadsters on the premises.  Nuts!

The yellow beast, the blue S/C car, My MR S, Jon's PFL Roadster, and the blue TF. 



One more only allowed, and that's only if they are socially distanced!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: StuC on October 4, 2020, 17:50
Quote from: Carolyn on October  3, 2020, 16:52Right now - five roadsters on the premises.  Nuts!

The yellow beast, the blue S/C car, My MR S, Jon's PFL Roadster, and the blue TF. 



Does this technically class as a meet? 😂😂
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: househead on October 4, 2020, 23:07
Quote from: StuC on October  4, 2020, 17:50
Quote from: Carolyn on October  3, 2020, 16:52Right now - five roadsters on the premises.  Nuts!

The yellow beast, the blue S/C car, My MR S, Jon's PFL Roadster, and the blue TF. 



Does this technically class as a meet? 😂😂

Just needs one more for a complete rule-of-six set!

Edit: just seen Tony beat me to that one.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on October 5, 2020, 06:41
Quote from: househead on October  4, 2020, 23:07
Quote from: StuC on October  4, 2020, 17:50
Quote from: Carolyn on October  3, 2020, 16:52Right now - five roadsters on the premises.  Nuts!

The yellow beast, the blue S/C car, My MR S, Jon's PFL Roadster, and the blue TF. 



Does this technically class as a meet? 😂😂

Just needs one more for a complete rule-of-six set!

Edit: just seen Tony beat me to that one.

Beaten to the punch by an OAP.
Experience beats youth once again.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Joesson on October 5, 2020, 11:06
Quote from: 1979scotte on October  5, 2020, 06:41
Quote from: househead on October  4, 2020, 23:07
Quote from: StuC on October  4, 2020, 17:50
Quote from: Carolyn on October  3, 2020, 16:52Right now - five roadsters on the premises.  Nuts!

The yellow beast, the blue S/C car, My MR S, Jon's PFL Roadster, and the blue TF. 



Does this technically class as a meet? 😂😂

Just needs one more for a complete rule-of-six set!

Edit: just seen Tony beat me to that one.

Beaten to the punch by an OAP.
Experience beats youth once again.

In other news:
The seven dwarfs have been advised that they can now only meet in groups of six.
One of them isn't Happy.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Carolyn on November 7, 2020, 15:23
Scotte's yellow beast now has a new clutch-slave-cylinder- from -hell, thanks to Jonbill spending most of the day working on it.

That was the last job on the list - yee hah!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: StuC on November 7, 2020, 15:39
Quote from: Carolyn on November  7, 2020, 15:23Scotte's yellow beast now has a new clutch-slave-cylinder- from -hell, thanks to Jonbill spending most of the day working on it.

That was the last job on the list - yee hah!

Well done both. @Carolyn @jonbill

Great club spirit. 👍👍
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Topdownman on November 7, 2020, 16:35
Well done to all concerned!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 7, 2020, 17:00
Many thanks to @Carolyn David and @jonbill
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: jonbill on November 7, 2020, 19:34
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 17:00Many thanks to @Carolyn David and @jonbill
My pleasure. Scotte - do you have the "project" for the ECU by any chance? I'm looking at checking out the map and changing it if necessary. I don't fancy starting from scratch, so a copy of the "windows client" project would be dead handy.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 7, 2020, 20:00
Quote from: jonbill on November  7, 2020, 19:34
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 17:00Many thanks to @Carolyn David and @jonbill
My pleasure. Scotte - do you have the "project" for the ECU by any chance? I'm looking at checking out the map and changing it if necessary. I don't fancy starting from scratch, so a copy of the "windows client" project would be dead handy.

Sorry mate I've only plugged the laptop into it once to check afr and boost.
All I've done is downloaded the software from the website as far as I remember.
I'm sure I saved a copy of the map when I did that but it probably got deleted since due to lack of storage.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 7, 2020, 20:06
@jonbill

Unless this is relevant

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Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: jonbill on November 7, 2020, 20:15
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 20:06@jonbill

Unless this is relevant

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IMG-20201107-WA0005.jpeg


yes! a zip of that EMU folder would be handy.
you didn't do the original mapping I take it? was this "bee6" folder created when you plugged in your PC to check AFR and boost?
did it give you an option to use the map on the ecu or the one in the project when you plugged it in?
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 7, 2020, 20:58
Quote from: jonbill on November  7, 2020, 20:15
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 20:06@jonbill

Unless this is relevant

IMG-20201107-WA0003.jpeg


IMG-20201107-WA0005.jpeg


yes! a zip of that EMU folder would be handy.
you didn't do the original mapping I take it? was this "bee6" folder created when you plugged in your PC to check AFR and boost?
did it give you an option to use the map on the ecu or the one in the project when you plugged it in?

Pretty sure it gives you the option to backup the map on the ecu to your pc.
I'm hopeful that the majority of the map is good and perhaps only needs tweeking at full boost/revs.
The ecu has auto tune and target afr so I would like to think it will adjust itself to suit.

Last time it saw a dyno it made 255 ft lbs ish at the wheels the worry would be if it makes much more torque it could break a drive shaft or maybe bend a rod.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: jonbill on November 7, 2020, 21:23
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 20:58
Quote from: jonbill on November  7, 2020, 20:15
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 20:06@jonbill

Unless this is relevant

IMG-20201107-WA0003.jpeg


IMG-20201107-WA0005.jpeg


yes! a zip of that EMU folder would be handy.
you didn't do the original mapping I take it? was this "bee6" folder created when you plugged in your PC to check AFR and boost?
did it give you an option to use the map on the ecu or the one in the project when you plugged it in?

Pretty sure it gives you the option to backup the map on the ecu to your pc.
I'm hopeful that the majority of the map is good and perhaps only needs tweeking at full boost/revs.
The ecu has auto tune and target afr so I would like to think it will adjust itself to suit.

Last time it saw a dyno it made 255 ft lbs ish at the wheels the worry would be if it makes much more torque it could break a drive shaft or maybe bend a rod.
thanks, if it lets me copy whats on the ECU I should be good. I was only going to make sure its safe at full load, now the belt isn't slipping.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 7, 2020, 21:52
Quote from: jonbill on November  7, 2020, 21:23
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 20:58
Quote from: jonbill on November  7, 2020, 20:15
Quote from: 1979scotte on November  7, 2020, 20:06@jonbill

Unless this is relevant

IMG-20201107-WA0003.jpeg


IMG-20201107-WA0005.jpeg


yes! a zip of that EMU folder would be handy.
you didn't do the original mapping I take it? was this "bee6" folder created when you plugged in your PC to check AFR and boost?
did it give you an option to use the map on the ecu or the one in the project when you plugged it in?

Pretty sure it gives you the option to backup the map on the ecu to your pc.
I'm hopeful that the majority of the map is good and perhaps only needs tweeking at full boost/revs.
The ecu has auto tune and target afr so I would like to think it will adjust itself to suit.

Last time it saw a dyno it made 255 ft lbs ish at the wheels the worry would be if it makes much more torque it could break a drive shaft or maybe bend a rod.
thanks, if it lets me copy whats on the ECU I should be good. I was only going to make sure its safe at full load, now the belt isn't slipping.

If it makes more than 10psi we could be in trouble.

Still not sure i trust the waste gate setup to do its job.
We'll find out.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Carolyn on November 12, 2020, 13:25
I just took the Yellow Peril round the block for a shakedown run.

All I have to say is:

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUUUS!

It seems to be running rather well.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 12, 2020, 13:44
Quote from: Carolyn on November 12, 2020, 13:25I just took the Yellow Peril round the block for a shakedown run.

All I have to say is:

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUUUS!

It seems to be running rather well.

Glad you liked it

It wasn't ever something you could ever call slow Carolyn.
Made 250 ish ft lbs on the dyno.

Well done.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Topdownman on November 12, 2020, 15:01
How did the weight compare to a standard car?

Notice any difference?
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Carolyn on November 12, 2020, 15:07
Only booted it in a straight line. It felt fine to steer - but with cold tyres and a cold road I wasn't about to see how it felt in the corners.

It doesn't give the impression of being a lot heavier.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 12, 2020, 15:23
Previous owner had it corner weighted at 1070kg.
I belive with all the extra bracing and supercharger gubbins it could be now around 1120kg but I don't know.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Topdownman on November 12, 2020, 16:10
Always good to hear an unbiased opinion.

I suppose its a bit of a moot point now as I dont expect we will see many more V6 swops, not when they cost so much (did I hear £11k for Rogue to do it??).

It was one of the worries when I had it done and everyone said it was not a problem and I never found it to be.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 12, 2020, 16:22
Quote from: Topdownman on November 12, 2020, 16:10Always good to hear an unbiased opinion.

I suppose its a bit of a moot point now as I dont expect we will see many more V6 swops, not when they cost so much (did I hear £11k for Rogue to do it??).

It was one of the worries when I had it done and everyone said it was not a problem and I never found it to be.


11k? That must be for a 2gr surely? That's mega bucks for a 1mz. Especially when you think 3-5k on a turbo install would probably be quicker!
Don't get me wrong I love a V6 in a 2 but anymore than 6k just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: s12vea on November 12, 2020, 17:57
Rogue were always very expensive for v6 stuff, but that seems bloody high!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Topdownman on November 12, 2020, 19:33
I think I heard someone say that but it could have been for a 2GR which would make more sense.

I havent asked Rogue!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Ardent on November 12, 2020, 21:55
Quote from: Carolyn on November 12, 2020, 13:25I just took the Yellow Peril round the block for a shakedown run.

All I have to say is:

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUUUS!

It seems to be running rather well.
it seems to be lacking the "H Christ" bit, does it need nitrous?

I'll get my coat. TAXI!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Ardent on November 12, 2020, 22:03
Quote from: Carolyn on November 12, 2020, 13:25I just took the Yellow Peril round the block for a shakedown run.

All I have to say is:

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUUUS!

It seems to be running rather well.
For the un-initiated; that may stumble across this. The above comment is from a woman that has previously strapped a rocket to her back. And when I say rocket. I mean, a rocket.
For the pedantic. Yes, she lit the fuse.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02
Quote from: Topdownman on November 12, 2020, 19:33I think I heard someone say that but it could have been for a 2GR which would make more sense.

I havent asked Rogue!

Yes, Rogue 2GR swap is about that, but you do get a professional, high quality installation. Personally, I consider it a fair price for having a proper job.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02
Quote from: Carolyn on November 12, 2020, 13:25I just took the Yellow Peril round the block for a shakedown run.

All I have to say is:

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUUUUS!

It seems to be running rather well.

Careful, it gets addictive!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: StuC on November 12, 2020, 23:19
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02Careful, it gets addictive!

Miss yours?
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:41
Quote from: StuC on November 12, 2020, 23:19
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02Careful, it gets addictive!

Miss yours?

Oh, so much more than I thought I would.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Ardent on November 12, 2020, 23:51
@ChrisGB
All I remember from dinner table conversations from the past, on whatever meet it was, Midlands rendezvous?
You and yours would take on all comers. Much to their surprise. ;)
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:57
Quote from: Ardent on November 12, 2020, 23:51@ChrisGB
All I remember from dinner table conversations from the past, on whatever meet it was, Midlands rendezvous?
You and yours would take on all comers. Much to their surprise. ;)

The advantage of keeping it looking stock, discretion is easier.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Ardent on November 13, 2020, 06:56
I echo that outlook.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 08:45
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:41
Quote from: StuC on November 12, 2020, 23:19
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02Careful, it gets addictive!

Miss yours?

Oh, so much more than I thought I would.

Honest answer well done mate.
Let's get that supercharged V6 out of your jag and into an mr2.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 08:46
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02
Quote from: Topdownman on November 12, 2020, 19:33I think I heard someone say that but it could have been for a 2GR which would make more sense.

I havent asked Rogue!

Yes, Rogue 2GR swap is about that, but you do get a professional, high quality installation. Personally, I consider it a fair price for having a proper job.

Not a bad price for a 2gr but not a 1mz
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13
Yep, for a 2GR £11k doesnt sound as ridiculous as it does for a 1mz!

(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Nvy on November 13, 2020, 09:51
Quote from: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13Yep, for a 2GR £11k doesnt sound as ridiculous as it does for a 1mz!

(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).

To get the speculation out of the question - Rogue's quote 2GR is 16.5k turn key, 3GS is 13k turn key and the price is in pounds. Can have slight deviation due to donor car price.

Off topic: For such money one can have Cayman plus change for spares and consumables.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Chilli Girl on November 13, 2020, 10:00
Quote from: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13Yep, for a 2GR £11k doesnt sound as ridiculous as it does for a 1mz!

(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).

I've been reading up about the GR Yaris, I like the sound of it
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 10:03
Ouch!

(Every review of the Yaris I have seen so far has been glowing. Mat Watson of Carwow says he is thinking of selling his 911 to get one).
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 13, 2020, 10:12
Quote from: Nvy on November 13, 2020, 09:51
Quote from: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13Yep, for a 2GR £11k doesnt sound as ridiculous as it does for a 1mz!

(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).

To get the speculation out of the question - Rogue's quote 2GR is 16.5k turn key, 3GS is 13k turn key and the price is in pounds. Can have slight deviation due to donor car price.

Off topic: For such money one can have Cayman plus change for spares and consumables.

They've gone up in price a bit then. There are lots of cars you can have for that money, but few of them will have the intensity and grin factor of a 2GR MR2. Cayman is way too sensible!
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 13, 2020, 10:25
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 08:45
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:41
Quote from: StuC on November 12, 2020, 23:19
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02Careful, it gets addictive!

Miss yours?

Oh, so much more than I thought I would.

Honest answer well done mate.
Let's get that supercharged V6 out of your jag and into an mr2.

My old car came up for sale recently and had I not just bought a training car on the tail of 14 weeks not working, I would have been seriously considering buying it back.

Have to say, much as I like the Jag, it's not the sort of car that makes me giggle like a naughty schoolboy. It's hugely, capable, agile, lovely balance, very well appointed and as fast as anyone realistically needs on a road. It's a lovely thing, great for covering distance and great when you get on the fun roads. It is sensible though. What is rather telling is that the Jag gets more than 10x the use I was giving the MR2, which is a bit of a reality check.
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 10:26
Quote from: Nvy on November 13, 2020, 09:51
Quote from: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13Yep, for a 2GR £11k doesnt sound as ridiculous as it does for a 1mz!

(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).

To get the speculation out of the question - Rogue's quote 2GR is 16.5k turn key, 3GS is 13k turn key and the price is in pounds. Can have slight deviation due to donor car price.

Off topic: For such money one can have Cayman plus change for spares and consumables.

A cayman s isn't anywhere near as quick as a 2gr roadster. A better car overall for sure but most owners can't stop dreaming about ims bearings and bore scoring.


Why even bother with a 3s gte for that money build your 1zz or 2zz be far kinder on the handling iron blocks are so 20th century.

( but I still love a 2jz )
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 10:28
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 13, 2020, 10:25
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 08:45
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:41
Quote from: StuC on November 12, 2020, 23:19
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 12, 2020, 23:02Careful, it gets addictive!

Miss yours?

Oh, so much more than I thought I would.

Honest answer well done mate.
Let's get that supercharged V6 out of your jag and into an mr2.

My old car came up for sale recently and had I not just bought a training car on the tail of 14 weeks not working, I would have been seriously considering buying it back.

Have to say, much as I like the Jag, it's not the sort of car that makes me giggle like a naughty schoolboy. It's hugely, capable, agile, lovely balance, very well appointed and as fast as anyone realistically needs on a road. It's a lovely thing, great for covering distance and great when you get on the fun roads. It is sensible though. What is rather telling is that the Jag gets more than 10x the use I was giving the MR2, which is a bit of a reality check.

Stop denying your heart Chris your head won't make you happy. 😜
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: ChrisGB on November 13, 2020, 10:29
Quote from: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).

I like the look of it, but I've already got a hatchback. Maybe my next training car?
Title: Re: Supercharge HQ.
Post by: 1979scotte on November 13, 2020, 10:32
Quote from: ChrisGB on November 13, 2020, 10:29
Quote from: Topdownman on November 13, 2020, 09:13(PS Perhaps you need a GR yaris Chris!).

I like the look of it, but I've already got a hatchback. Maybe my next training car?

When you do im sure I'll need a refresher course.