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The Workshop => Maintenance, Problems & Troubleshooting => Topic started by: lukeydoo on May 10, 2021, 18:13

Title: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: lukeydoo on May 10, 2021, 18:13
Firstly, I have next to no idea about wiring (which is probably why this has happened!) so please post any answers like you're explaining to a 10 year-old.

I have wired in the K20a2 engine harness into the fuse box etc., relocated the battery to the front and followed the instructions from BottleFed to rewire the fusebox in the engine bay. I began attaching all the loom earths (the car was totally stripped for a rollcage and painting) and suddenly the starter turns over but the solenoid doesn't engage. This is all without the key even being in the ignition. I know I've made a very obvious mistake, but I can't figure out what!

Starter is wired direct to battery post, alternator goes to fusebox. The only thing that is slightly different, is the wire from the starter to the battery is white, whilst the one in the picture from MitchAutoParts's k swap guide is black.

Help!
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: 1979scotte on May 10, 2021, 21:20
Sorry can't offer any advice
Good on you for giving it a go cos the k20 swap is a vary rare thing on this forum.
Best of luck.
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: shnazzle on May 10, 2021, 21:37
According to the stock wiring diagram, a black/blue cable goes from starter to battery (positive). A black cable goes from starter to starter relay via a loom.

Maybe relay issue? Or the wiring is bypassing the starter relay?
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: Call the midlife! on May 10, 2021, 21:48
When you say the solenoid doesn't engage what do you mean exactly? I'm not sure if you're getting your terminology mixed up so bear with me.
The solenoid is what puts power to the starter motor when you turn the ignition so it sounds like you've possibly got your earths wrong somewhere?
If you've got a live feed directly to the starter that's earthed then you've got potential for a complete circuit, especially if the solenoid is maybe stuck in the closed position.
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: lukeydoo on May 11, 2021, 06:07
Quote from: Call the midlife! on May 10, 2021, 21:48When you say the solenoid doesn't engage what do you mean exactly? I'm not sure if you're getting your terminology mixed up so bear with me.
The solenoid is what puts power to the starter motor when you turn the ignition so it sounds like you've possibly got your earths wrong somewhere?
If you've got a live feed directly to the starter that's earthed then you've got potential for a complete circuit, especially if the solenoid is maybe stuck in the closed position.

I thought the solenoid pushes the starter into the flywheel? That's why it's whirring as it's not engaging with the teeth.

When you say I got the earths wrong, do you mean that missing some could cause this issue? If that's a possibility it's probably correct as I've only done the cabin earths and haven't added all of the engine bay earths.

Thank you for the responses 👍
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: Call the midlife! on May 11, 2021, 08:08
There should be a direct earth to the starter or very close to it and a live to the starter, then some loom wiring from the ignition relay to the starter solenoid.
The ignition relay puts power to the starter solenoid and that closes the circuit to the starter motor, making it turn, the solenoid SHOULD also throw the pinion shaft out to engage with the flywheel but if you say the starter is turning without turning the ignition then it's a guess at wrongly wired and potentially stuck/dodgy solenoid.
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: lukeydoo on May 16, 2021, 21:24
Solved the starter issue, I think! But ignition is still on without the key in it!
Title: Re: Wiring Woes K Swap
Post by: lukeydoo on June 3, 2021, 06:09
IT WAS THE BLOODY STARTER MOTOR CAUSING THIS ALL ALONG!

A new starter fixed it!