So just as we think we are getting there, Sapphire now has an osf sticky caliper. The alloy is showing masses of brake dust opposed to the other 3 that are clean. Old cars, eh? I've now spent the money I got for Foxy on buying & repairing Sapphire! What do you expect on a 21yr old, cheaper than having a child I suppose! :o
It is what it is Jane.
They're all classic cars now and until you've brought it up to your standards you won't be happy.
100%
It's getting pretty obvious that we're all in "replace with new" or complete refurbish territory now.
The parts are just worn and done.
Mine's a "young" 05 plate, putting it at the same age as our eldest teenager, with 105k miles and it has a bit of a list of things to do now.
The time has come :) We're in classics territory now as Scotte says
Quote from: 1979scotte on November 22, 2021, 19:30It is what it is Jane.
They're all classic cars now and until you've brought it up to your standards you won't be happy.
You know me too well Scotte!
A sticky calliper is not a massive issue, Jane. Very often it's just a matter of lubricating the sliders. I figured it would be a front, as the rears are new!
The fronts are very easy to deal with, as there's no handbrake involved.
Yes, we ARE in 'Classic Car' territory with these cars now. Which means being very thorough when we do a job. If you're freeing off one front calliper - do them both at the same time.
Mind you, if the hard tops are any indication, we have crossed the threshold from 'old car' to 'desirable classic', so the money spent will now start to be reflected in market value.
One one of these cars is 'sorted', good regular maintenance and rust prevention will be all it needs.
Give it a couple more years and we'll start to see the expenditure reflected in prices. The biggest killer will be a rusty underside.
Jane
Sorry to say this, just get rid and buy a good MR2
As I'm a gentleman, you can have mine for £500, it comes complete with a £3500 hardtop :))
Joking Jane, sticking caliper is generally an easy fix
Rob
If it is one of the rears check the brake cable. I had it where the cable was not retracing all the way and was at the point of bing frozen. It produced brake dust on that wheel and drag.
On my previous Honda the caliper was bad and needed to be replaced. Every situation is always a surprise and needs to be diagnosed.
Its not the sliders it is the piston sticking. I pumped it out and pushed it back a few times but it is stiff to go back in. Cheap enough easy fix thankfully.
One of mine was stiff when I had the discs and pads replaced, the garage moved it to get the new disc fitted but that was all, I would of been much happier if the garage had said we need to do some work on the caliper/calipers and its going to cost you.
Quote from: TheTigerUK on November 23, 2021, 11:46One of mine was stiff when I had the discs and pads replaced, the garage moved it to get the new disc fitted but that was all, I would of been much happier if the garage had said we need to do some work on the caliper/calipers and its going to cost you.
This post and your post about the £90+ for an oil and filter change are typical of why I do my own work on my 2.
Ive got a pair of spare good/refurbed front calipers surplus to requirements ive been meaning to put up for sale advert for, let me know if you need one i will dig out the loft :D
Quote from: Joesson on November 23, 2021, 16:19Quote from: TheTigerUK on November 23, 2021, 11:46One of mine was stiff when I had the discs and pads replaced, the garage moved it to get the new disc fitted but that was all, I would of been much happier if the garage had said we need to do some work on the caliper/calipers and its going to cost you.
This post and your post about the £90+ for an oil and filter change are typical of why I do my own work on my 2.
In the past (distant) I have changed engines, clutches, brakes, axles etc but I don't have a garage now and at times I feel my age, unfortuanatly.
Would it be worth getting in touch with Andy at J-spec to see if he had a set of front and backs for sale that I could restore at my leisure ? and after restoring paint red :)
Quote from: TheTigerUK on November 23, 2021, 17:40Quote from: Joesson on November 23, 2021, 16:19Quote from: TheTigerUK on November 23, 2021, 11:46One of mine was stiff when I had the discs and pads replaced, the garage moved it to get the new disc fitted but that was all, I would of been much happier if the garage had said we need to do some work on the caliper/calipers and its going to cost you.
This post and your post about the £90+ for an oil and filter change are typical of why I do my own work on my 2.
In the past (distant) I have changed engines, clutches, brakes, axles etc but I don't have a garage now and at times I feel my age, unfortuanatly.
Indeed, a garage allows the job to be paced, irrespective of the weather. Unfortunately it doesn't help with the number of years of the operative but it does stop it becoming a spectator sport!
Quote from: mr2garageswindon on November 23, 2021, 10:16Its not the sliders it is the piston sticking. I pumped it out and pushed it back a few times but it is stiff to go back in. Cheap enough easy fix thankfully.
So
@mr2garageswindon, does that mean a new caliper or will a clean up be sufficient, I wonder?
Quote from: Chilli Girl on November 23, 2021, 20:11Quote from: mr2garageswindon on November 23, 2021, 10:16Its not the sliders it is the piston sticking. I pumped it out and pushed it back a few times but it is stiff to go back in. Cheap enough easy fix thankfully.
So @mr2garageswindon, does that mean a new caliper or will a clean up be sufficient, I wonder?
As per my post earlier; don't delay the inevitable Jane. Refurb kit or replacement caliper.
Refurb kits are about 30gbp
Replace both.
Sell yours on here recoup some funds back.
I have just bought a full set of front and back used calipers to fully restore at my leisure and to paint red :) for installation as and when.
Sapphire is yet at another garage today, this time in Ilminster having a new OSF caliper fitted. Driving the 60 miles over to Mums this morning, the poor disc was red hot when I arrived. :o I do hope this is the last of Sapphire's problems for a while now. She seems to have been up on a ramp more than being driven these days :'(
:) she does like her tummy tickled then :) :)
Quote from: puma2 on November 25, 2021, 23:15:) she does like her tummy tickled then :) :)
Much like her owner then
@puma2 but I am fussy! - ha ha!
Sapphire is now waiting for an osf new caliper which will be fitted on Mon/Tues so as I'm in Somerset I shall be returning to Salisbury tomorrow in my Mum's Mazda 2 auto. Shame, as I was looking forward to the drive home in Sapphy tomorrow pm. :'(
My old car failed its MOT on the handbrake last week (for a change). Rear calipers were brand new from Brakes International in 2018 and the handbrake cables were most recently replaced in 2019 I think. I've seen others mention premature failure from the Brakes International ones.
The calipers from Simon Sinclair / caliperrefurb.com seem to get a good write up and are reasonably priced.
Quote from: Bossworld on November 27, 2021, 13:53My old car failed its MOT on the handbrake last week (for a change). Rear calipers were brand new from Brakes International in 2018 and the handbrake cables were most recently replaced in 2019 I think. I've seen others mention premature failure from the Brakes International ones.
The calipers from Simon Sinclair / caliperrefurb.com seem to get a good write up and are reasonably priced.
Just looked at those prices, almost cheaper than restoring a set.
Quote from: Bossworld on November 27, 2021, 13:53I've seen others mention premature failure from the Brakes International ones.
I have never come across that.
Was that on here or elsewhere?
Do they elaborate as to what fails?
Quote from: TheTigerUK on November 27, 2021, 16:58Quote from: Bossworld on November 27, 2021, 13:53My old car failed its MOT on the handbrake last week (for a change). Rear calipers were brand new from Brakes International in 2018 and the handbrake cables were most recently replaced in 2019 I think. I've seen others mention premature failure from the Brakes International ones.
The calipers from Simon Sinclair / caliperrefurb.com seem to get a good write up and are reasonably priced.
Just looked at those prices, almost cheaper than restoring a set.
Be aware that repair kits are priced as a pair, £34 front total, the caliper as a single item £75front each. I don't believe the caliper comes with new slider pins or brake shims so they are extra in both cases, but nevertheless competitive pricing iirc.
Quote from: Ardent on November 27, 2021, 17:32Quote from: Bossworld on November 27, 2021, 13:53I've seen others mention premature failure from the Brakes International ones.
I have never come across that.
Was that on here or elsewhere?
Do they elaborate as to what fails?
I'm going to rewrite this post as I've just remembered what it was.
Re: first point, funnily enough it may have come from you originally :D https://www.mr2roc.org/forum/index.php?msg=786915
Re: Brakes International vs. others, the bit I've just remembered - I recall another post where someone mentioned a difference in the design of the handbrake cam/lever on the caliper itself. There's a great YouTube video that shows the sheer amount of effort needed on the MR2 caliper arm, for the little bit of movement it does mechanically (vs. hydraulically).
I think the last discussion focussed on whether the difference in lever arms (possibly length) was a contributory factor in why some people had replaced cables and calipers, and still had a rubbish handbrake.
For what it's worth, the ones Simon advertises (via Frentech I believe) are billed as being brand new rather than remanufactured. The Brakes International ones are billed as being a 'budweg remanufactured caliper'.
Still staggers me as to how bad the handbrake is on these cars given the simplicity of the mechanism / the similar mechs used on a lot of other cars these days without the associated issues
Brakes International list 2 separate part numbers for the rear caliper. Based on year.
Some swear there is no difference.
I don't know.
What I "believe" is.
Even with new everything, disc's, pads,cables calipers and everything working to spec. The spec is just not very good.
Not to mention the cables follow a soft S curve not a straight line. Always going to be a compromise.
@Bossworld Just been back and re read the link in your #26 post.
Good read. But no reply from OP in the end.
Quote from: Ardent on November 28, 2021, 11:50@Bossworld
Just been back and re read the link in your #26 post.
Good read. But no reply from OP in the end.
I'm going to try and ring my stepdad later as according to Mum, he's replaced the calipers but still experiencing issues. Trying to relay the pedal dance, the wind out/in routine and the rest remotely is difficult enough.
Re: FL/PFL, vaguely remember some difference in the design of the piston itself being mentioned. Danger is I'm verging on turning this into unsubstantiated rumour and the rest. I don't think we've ever found an answer to the length of the official Toyota cables either, other than they are listed separately for PFL and FL. There are some aftermarket manufacturers who quote different lengths, and some who don't.
Quote from: Bossworld on November 28, 2021, 13:07Quote from: Ardent on November 28, 2021, 11:50@Bossworld
Just been back and re read the link in your #26 post.
Good read. But no reply from OP in the end.
I'm going to try and ring my stepdad later as according to Mum, he's replaced the calipers but still experiencing issues. Trying to relay the pedal dance, the wind out/in routine and the rest remotely is difficult enough.
Re: FL/PFL, vaguely remember some difference in the design of the piston itself being mentioned. Danger is I'm verging on turning this into unsubstantiated rumour and the rest. I don't think we've ever found an answer to the length of the official Toyota cables either, other than they are listed separately for PFL and FL. There are some aftermarket manufacturers who quote different lengths, and some who don't.
For what its worth.
I believe mine are still the original. Have noticed when I have been ferreting around underneath. They are colour coded. Either white and blue or yellow and blue. (wibbly wobbly memory)
Just bits of tape. But have that original been there forever look.
Well, returned to Salisbury this afternoon in Mum's automatic little 2, leaving poor Sapphire suspended in the air at a garage in Somerset awaiting a new osf brake caliper. :o
where is it coming from?
Almost sure mine turned up the next day.
Not quite sure
@Ardent - I was surprised it was taking this long for it to arrive. Looking forward to getting her back on the road this week. ;D
Sapphire is fixed once more. New OSF caliper fitted this morning. Collecting her on Wednesday afternoon. ;D