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Title: Not being able to log on.....
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 09:14
G'day,

Something weird is going on. I can log on to here at work absolutely no problem at all. All hunky dorey.

But if I try and log on at home, it just doesn't have it. I type in the same username and password as I do here (don't ask, the "log me in automatically doesn't and hasn't worked EVER at home. And not just on this site, but loads of others too. I know it is a cookie problem but they ARE enabled, so god knows what is going on!). I try to log in the first time and then it goes traight back to the forum list lage with me NOT being logged in, with no warning or reason for why I couldn't log on (i.e. The password you entered was incorrect blah blah blah.....). I then try again and it is SOOOO hit and miss. When I DO eventually get logged in, and try and view messages since last post, it ALWAYS tells me that there is nothing that meets my criteria when I know full well there WILL be cos it will have been about 4-5 hours since I logged on at work and there is BOUND to be messages posted in that time. And its not just one occasion, but all the time!!

HELP!!! I am completely IT illiterate here, so can anyone shed any light on this and help me be able to log on at home and read/post? Pretty please?

Cheers peeps!
Title: Re: Not being able to log on.....
Post by: Tem on August 14, 2003, 09:42
Quote from: "John Woodward"I know it is a cookie problem but they ARE enabled, so god knows what is going on!

Just a wild guess, but check your home computers time and date.
Title: Re: Not being able to log on.....
Post by: mph on August 14, 2003, 09:54
Quote from: "Tem"
Quote from: "John Woodward"I know it is a cookie problem but they ARE enabled, so god knows what is going on!

Just a wild guess, but check your home computers time and date.
Good thought - while you're there, check ya timezone too.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 10:33
Hmmmm......Ok. Will do, but I think they are Ok. Didn't think that would have too much of an effect, but lot know better than me!!!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s:D :D s:D
Title: Re: Not being able to log on.....
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 10:44
Quote from: "John Woodward"G'day,

Something weird is going on. I can log on to here at work absolutely no problem at all. All hunky dorey.

But if I try and log on at home, it just doesn't have it. I type in the same username and password as I do here (don't ask, the "log me in automatically doesn't and hasn't worked EVER at home. And not just on this site, but loads of others too. I know it is a cookie problem but they ARE enabled, so god knows what is going on!). I try to log in the first time and then it goes traight back to the forum list lage with me NOT being logged in, with no warning or reason for why I couldn't log on (i.e. The password you entered was incorrect blah blah blah.....). I then try again and it is SOOOO hit and miss. When I DO eventually get logged in, and try and view messages since last post, it ALWAYS tells me that there is nothing that meets my criteria when I know full well there WILL be cos it will have been about 4-5 hours since I logged on at work and there is BOUND to be messages posted in that time. And its not just one occasion, but all the time!!

HELP!!! I am completely IT illiterate here, so can anyone shed any light on this and help me be able to log on at home and read/post? Pretty please?

Cheers peeps!

AOL does that to me, if that's the same try using IE to login
Title: Re: Not being able to log on.....
Post by: mph on August 14, 2003, 10:51
Quote from: "bigun007"AOL does that to me, if that's the same try using IE to login
s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  AOL is evil and should be destroyed. It causes so many problems and it's worse than a virus trying to remove it from a system.
/rant
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Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 11:24
Nope, I already use IE. Not AOL. Like you have said, AOL......Devils invention.......

Will try the clock thing, but I don't know if that is it.....
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Post by: Tem on August 14, 2003, 13:04
Quote from: "John Woodward"Didn't think that would have too much of an effect, but lot know better than me!!!

Well...if you get a cookie that's valid from 14th of August 2003 and your computer thinks it's 1.1.1970, you can guess the rest  s;) ;) s;)  And yes, even an hour is enough to stop it from working...

If the forum accepts your password, but "forgets" it right after it, it HAS to be a cookie problem. And if you're sure that your browser (and firewall and everything) accepts them, I can only think of this time/date-issue  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 14:12
Ok Tem, will try it. See what happens and let you know. Will have to get home first though!

I dont know whether I made it clear in the first mail or not though, but I CAN actually log on, but it usually takes 2 goes and then when I am in, it doesn't recognise that there have been any more posts when I click on View since last login. Thats the bit that is confusing me.

Will give the clock thing a look though and then come screaming back to you lot if I can't figure it out!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 14:17
If you can acutally log in but it takes a couple of tries, it could be a caching problem - once you have logged in for the first time, hold down CTRL and press F5, thats shoudl force the page to load the latest version for you.... might be worth a try....?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2003, 14:58
Hmmmm....Ok. Will give that a go too. See what happens.

Its weird that it is only happening at work......  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Tem on August 18, 2003, 06:46
Quote from: "John Woodward"I CAN actually log on, but it usually takes 2 goes and then when I am in, it doesn't recognise that there have been any more posts when I click on View since last login.

Oh...ok...it's not the clock thingie then. It wouldn't keep you in at all, not even after the 2nd or zillionth time  s:) :) s:)

That no-new-posts is actually normal if you have to log in twice...since it shows posts that are newer than the login you made 10 seconds ago..
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 10:13
Hmmmmm.....Ok. So I have tried everything that has been suggested on here by you guys and it has had no effect. It seems pretty random that I have to try and log on twice and even then, it STILL says that there are no new posts blah blah blah......its VERY annoying.

I have noticed though that even though my computer clock is correct (I made sure), when I load the website and don't log in, it gives a completely different time on the site sometimes. Why is the site not picking up the correct time from the computer or the web?

I take it this may be the problem? Any ideas?

Still computer illiterate.......  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 12:10
John,

When you first try to log in and it "fails" it sounds like you have actually logged in. Have you tried foing into one of the forum areas and tried to post? Do you see any new message icons?

It does sound a bit like your pages are not being updated rather than you not being logged in.

Under Tools -> Internet Options -> General -> Settings check that you have "Check for new versions of stored pages" set to "Every visit of the page" to ensure you get the latest updates. I dont think this is the problem, but it may stop cached pages being taken.

You may want to try puting  m http://www.mr2roc.net (http://www.mr2roc.net) m  in your trusted sites and setting security for trusted sites (Via the custom button) to low. BUT if thhis does not work, the return the security level back to its default.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 13:11
Ok, thanks Victor. Will try your suggestions and see what it comes up with. Not at home yet though, so will post about it later.

Cheers though!  s:D :D s:D
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Post by: Tem on August 18, 2003, 13:22
Actually, the IE caching is more or less random, no matter what settings you use  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:  Sounds more like a problem with that, since you actually can log in.

Could be a proxy acting up as well, but try to play with the cache settings first. And after logging in, if it doesn't show you're logged in, just refresh the page (was it ctrl+f5 on IE that does a "good" refresh?).

Or you could switch to Opera and never have these problems again  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 13:43
Heh heh.....I did download Opera a while ago, but I couldn't get it to load anything for some reason. Don't know why as I have already said I am computer illiterate! But it DID look good and I have only ever heard good things about it, so its a shame I couldn't get it to work.   s:( :( s:(  

I will go home tonight and try all the suggestions again and see what happens.......  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 17:59
G'day!

Just tried what you said Victor and it is set as you said. So don't know if that is the problem.

I just logged in (on the second attempt as usual) and I saw that it said that I last logged in at 4.45pm, which was at work before I left, so it obviously knows who I am, but doesn't and is recognising that I am logging in, but it doesn't seem to be picking up any new posts for some reason.

This is REALLY strange now. It just started doing it about a week ago and I changed nothing and touched nothing. Annoying me now.........
  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 18:02
Ok, I have just noticed something even weirder. The time at the top of the page says now that it is 4.54pm!!!! Which is only 10 mins after I last logged on at home. The ACTUAL time at home is now 6.00pm exactly!!!!

What is going on????!!!!! Its almost as if it is recognising that I logged on at work and the browser is using the time from then to continue and not the computer clock, which is the actual time. No wonder its not recognising any new posts.

Is this something wrong with my browser and if so, why is it doing it and is there anything I can do to change this?

HELP!!!!!
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Post by: Tem on August 19, 2003, 06:04
About the time...check your profile for time zone, maybe that's off..?

About the browser... m http://www.opera.com (http://www.opera.com) m   s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 08:32
Tem, I already checked the time zone on the clock on the computer and that is fine. If you mean something else, could you explain?

Its as if the browser isn't picking up the correct time from either the computer or online. And the time on the site doesn't seem to have moved on when I log in about 10 mins later again. This is all a bit weird for me and I have no idea.........

As for Opera, I took it off the computer a while ago when I had a clear of a few things to try and speed my computer up as I wasn't using it. I am not sure I can be bothered to go through all that again........  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:    s:D :D s:D
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Post by: Tem on August 19, 2003, 09:19
I didn't mean the time zone on your computer, but the one on your user profile on this forum. Click on the:
 (http://www.mr2roc.org/templates/subSilver/images/icon_mini_profile.gif) Profile
on top of the page to check it.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 11:19
Hi Tem,

Just looked at the Time Zone and it says GMT, as I suspect is should be.

Are we IN GMT at the moment or is British Summertime GMT+1?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 11:27
BST is GMT+1 which is where we're at now.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 11:44
Ahhhh....could be my problem, although I have no problems logging on at work and seeing the posts since last visit. The profile shouldn't change between computers should it.........  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:    s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 11:47
John, here is how you fix your problem...

1) Unplug your computer
2) Put it back in its box
3) Take it back to the shop and ask for your money back, saying that you shouldnt be allowed a PC at home
4) Problem solved!



ONLY JOKING MATE!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
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Post by: Tem on August 19, 2003, 11:58
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"ONLY JOKING MATE!   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

Reminds me of this old joke  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  

Actual dialogue of a former WordPerfect Customer Support employee:

"Ridge Hall computer assistant; may I help you?"
"Yes, well, I'm having trouble with WordPerfect."
"What sort of trouble?"
"Well, I was just typing along, and all of a sudden the words went away."
"Went away?"
"They disappeared."
"Hmm. So what does your screen look like now?"
"Nothing."
"Nothing?"
"It's blank; it won't accept anything when I type."
"Are you still in WordPerfect, or did you get out?"
"How do I tell?"
"Can you see the C: prompt on the screen?"
"What's a sea-prompt?"
"Never mind. Can you move the cursor around on the screen?"
"There isn't any cursor: I told you, it won't accept anything I type."
"Does your monitor have a power indicator?"
"What's a monitor?"
"It's the thing with the screen on it that looks like a TV. Does it have a little light that tells you when it's on?"
"I don't know."
"Well, then look on the back of the monitor and find where the power cord goes into it. Can you see that?"
"Yes, I think so."
"Great. Follow the cord to the plug, and tell me if it's plugged into the wall."
".......Yes, it is."
"When you were behind the monitor, did you notice that there were two cables plugged into the back of it, not just one?"
"No."
"Well, there are. I need you to look back there again and find the other cable."
"....... Okay, here it is."
"Follow it for me, and tell me if it's plugged securely into the back of your computer."
"I can't reach."
"Uh huh. Well, can you see if it is?"
"No."
"Even if you maybe put your knee on something and lean way over?"
"Oh, it's not because I don't have the right angle - it's because it's dark."
"Dark?"
"Yes -the office light is off, and the only light I have is coming in from the window."
"Well, turn on the office light then."
"I can't."
"No? Why not?"
"Because there's a power outage."
"A power... A power outage? Aha, Okay, we've got it licked now. Do you still have the boxes and manuals and packing stuff your computer came in?"
"Well, yes, I keep them in the closet."
"Good. Go get them, and unplug your system and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from."
"Really? Is it that bad?"
"Yes, I'm afraid it is."
"Well, all right then, I suppose. What do I tell them?"
"Tell them you're too fucking stupid to own a computer."

Sorry about lil drift...
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 12:05
yeah, heard that befoer... well funny....

TEM, whats with your AVITAR! bit big mate! LOL!
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Post by: Tem on August 19, 2003, 12:06
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"TEM, whats with your AVITAR! bit big mate! LOL!

Something weird...it's 50x50 pixels on my screen...the way it was supposed to be  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 12:16
nope - 450x301 (and its an S2000!!!!!)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 12:38
Quote from: "John Woodward"Ok, I have just noticed something even weirder. The time at the top of the page says now that it is 4.54pm!!!! Which is only 10 mins after I last logged on at home. The ACTUAL time at home is now 6.00pm exactly!!!!

The time at the top of the forum index ("The time now") is generated by the server every time the page is served, and isn't a function of your browser. Since we know the time on the server isn't wrong (if it were, I'd have a whole heap of much bigger problems   s:x :x s:x  ), then this proves that your browser (or something at your ISP) is caching the page, ie showing you an old, out-of-date version.

This shouldn't happen, because everything on the site (apart from graphics) is sent with a header to indicate immediate expiry, thereby stopping any caching. So something in your browser, or ISP, is broken   s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 12:41
Quote from: "John Woodward"Just looked at the Time Zone and it says GMT, as I suspect is should be.

The timezone setting in your profile is simply used by the server to calculate the correct time to display where required. All data and "calculations" are actually stored/done in GMT, so the timezone setting has no effect on the actual operation of anything, only display.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 13:27
Shit shit shit!!! What the HELL is it then? This is really beginning to piss me off now. I have done all the suggestions here (except for repacking it Kris  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  ) and nothing has changes. I have tried refreshing the page as suggested with Ctr+F5 and that has had no effect either, so can anyone point me in the direction of any suggestions with caches and so on, cos 1)I am still not sure what they are or how they work and 2) what to do with them or check up on them to see if the browser is knackered or nor. What is frustrating even more is that I did absolutely NOTHING to the computer and it just started doing this, for what seems no reason.

Any more suggestions?   s:? :? s:?  

Grrrrrrr  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 13:33
Tools, Internet Options, Connections, LAN Settings and untick "use a proxy server".  Do the same for your dialup connection, select it in the same connecitons tab, and click the settings button.  Untick the proxy box there too.

If that doesn't work, and it's a caching issue, then there's little you can do other than change your ISP.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 13:58
Quote from: "phil4"If that doesn't work, and it's a caching issue, then there's little you can do other than change your ISP.

That still sounds hasty... i dont suppose its a laptop that you could bring to a meet is it? Im sure its just some silly setting somewhere... alternativly if you have windows XP and are signed up to MSN messenger i could remote into your PC and take a look?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 14:07
phil4 wrote:
QuoteTools, Internet Options, Connections, LAN Settings and untick "use a proxy server". Do the same for your dialup connection, select it in the same connecitons tab, and click the settings button. Untick the proxy box there too.

If that doesn't work, and it's a caching issue, then there's little you can do other than change your ISP.

Phil, I am on Braodband and not dialup and not sure what you have said is applicable and I was tld by the ISP and the installer not to touch anything once up and running (plus, as already previously stated, I am a complete IT plod!), I am not sure I want to do anything like this, but I will certainly have a look and see what is in these things. See if anything resembles what you have said....

krisclarkuk wrote:
QuoteThat still sounds hasty... i dont suppose its a laptop that you could bring to a meet is it? Im sure its just some silly setting somewhere... alternativly if you have windows XP and are signed up to MSN messenger i could remote into your PC and take a look?

Sorry Kris, not a laptop and not XP i'm afraid. Not signed up to Messenger either. I am with you and Phil, I think it IS some stupid setting somewhere, but where, I don't know and I also want to know why the sudden change when nothing was done by me!!!



Sigh.............  s:roll: :roll: s:roll:    s:( :( s:(
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 14:12
Are you actually logging out when  you leave the site? I know i NEVER log out and never have to sign back in either....?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 14:22
Yeah, I do log out cos I look at the site at two different sites. One at home and the other at work. I was always told by a mate who works for Microsoft that I should log out of everything cos it leaves an open link to the outside worl which hackers can connect very easily to.

I get the feeling you are going to tell me different now.........  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 14:26
In this exact context, the guy at Microsoft was talking rubbish.  You don't need click the logout button at the top of this page (under usergroups).  It won't leave you vulnerable to hackers, and it won't confuse things if you use more than one PC.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 14:49
Hmmmm......Ok. I will not bother logging out tonight and see what happens when I get home.............  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Tem on August 20, 2003, 06:55
Never trust a M$ employee  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2003, 10:26
Heh heh......he's not an MS employee as such. Sorry, that is my fault. What I should have said was that he works for the National Grid as a Microsoft consultant in their email team. He is a fully qualified MS engineer and is SERIOUSLY genned up on all things Microsoft. Got me out of many a scrape with my computer......

As for the logging on. Its still happening. I tried not logging out here at work, as Kris said and it STILL didn't recognise me when I got home. Two attempts to log in, as usual and then said there were no mathces meeting my criteria when I tried to view posts since last visit.

I'm beginning to get bored with this now and it looks like I am going to have to resign myself to not being able to log on at home.   s:cry: :cry: s:cry:   It doesn't do it with any other site that I have to log on to......

Do you think it maybe its cos I have it as my home page? Just a wild guess......
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Post by: Tem on August 20, 2003, 11:07
Quote from: "John Woodward"Do you think it maybe its cos I have it as my home page? Just a wild guess......

Shouldn't make any difference...

Give Opera a go, it solves 99% of IE's problems  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2003, 11:22
I tried!!!! It didn't work!!! Couldn't get it to connect to the web for some reason. And I tried everything within my "limited" knowledge to get it working. Nowt!
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Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2003, 11:33
Quote from: "John Woodward"I tried!!!! It didn't work!!! Couldn't get it to connect to the web for some reason. And I tried everything within my "limited" knowledge to get it working. Nowt!

That pretty much implies that there's a proxy server between you and the rest of the Internet, and worse, it's compulsory. This would explain the caching you're seeing.

Who's the ISP?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2003, 12:56
pmdye wrote:
QuoteWho's the ISP?

ntl broadband. I have NEVER had problems with them before.

Does this point any light on anything?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2003, 22:30
Ok, I have just noticed something new and forget what I have said about the times at the top of the screen before. I think this is where the confusion is happening....

EVERY time I log on now (STILL on the second attempt), the clock at the top left hand corner says the correct time, but also, it says the last time I logged on is THE SAME TIME AS IT ACTUALLY IS AT THE TIME OF LOPGGING ON!!!! i.e. both times are the same. So, it is telling me that the last time I logged on is NOW!

Why isn't it recording the last time I logged on? Is this something to do with the security settings or something?

God, this is REALLY beggining to annoy me now!!!  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:    s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
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Post by: Tem on August 25, 2003, 06:55
If you keep a 5 minute pause between the 1st and 2nd loggings, does it still show the last login time being the same as the 2nd logtime?

Sounds like it logs you in on the first time and obviously stores that time. If you login right after that, isn't it true that your last login was at the same time..?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 10:14
I will try that and see what happens. I know what you are saying Tem, but I can't AVOID logging on pretty much instantly, cos it won't let me log on first go!!!

I'll let you know........
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 11:02
Quote from: "John Woodward"I will try that and see what happens. I know what you are saying Tem, but I can't AVOID logging on pretty much instantly, cos it won't let me log on first go!!!

I'll let you know........

So what does it do? does it say "your not logged on cos your password was incorrect" or anything like that?

Try this...

Login for the FIRST time then go to: Tools - Internet Options - "Tempory internet files" - Delete Files. then once that has done, click ok to close the dialog box, then press CTRL+F5 to reload the page and see if it then thinkgs your logged in or not.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 11:02
Ok, this is the latest.....

When I open the home page, the time is NOT the correct time at all. More like at least an hour behind. At least. So don't know what is going on there.

The, I try to log on and after the second time I log on, it then gives me BOTH times as the same, but this time, they are the correct times (well, there is usually no more than a minute in it anyway). Something VERY weird is happening with the times in my browser......any ideas?

Going to try Tem's idea now and see what happens.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 11:04
My time on the home page is an hour behind and ive NEVER had any problems logging in... i would still think the problem is YOUR pc rather than the forum....   s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 11:22
Oh yeah Kris, I have NEVER thought it was the forum. I pretty much KNOW it is my PC, but WHAT it is I don't know.

Anyway, this is the final analysis. I have just tried Tem's idea and this is what happened.

Click on link to take to home page. Time says 10.04am. Actual time on PC and in reality 11.05am.

First log in to forum, takes me back to log in page, as it has been for a while, with time saying 10.04am with actual time STILL 11.05am.

Left the computer at that point without touching it for about 10 mins.

Came back to log in for second time. got in this time, but time says last visit 11.04am anc correct time was actually 11.15am. Also says this on PC.

So, deduced from that, the FIRST log in IS registering with the forum, but doesn't seem to be showing on the PC. Won't actually let me see anything or actually BE logged in for some reason. But on the second attempt, it DOES recognise that I am logged in but also regonises that I WAS logged in last time too, even though it didn't show on the screen that I was!!!

WHAT the HELL is going on?!!!! I REALLY don't know what is going on now........

God, I know I keep asking, but has ANYONE got ANY ideas on this. I am tearing my bloody hair out with this!!!!

HELP!!!!!!
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 11:22
Oh yeah Kris, I have NEVER thought it was the forum. I pretty much KNOW it is my PC, but WHAT it is I don't know.

Anyway, this is the final analysis. I have just tried Tem's idea and this is what happened.

Click on link to take to home page. Time says 10.04am. Actual time on PC and in reality 11.05am.

First log in to forum, takes me back to log in page, as it has been for a while, with time saying 10.04am with actual time STILL 11.05am.

Left the computer at that point without touching it for about 10 mins.

Came back to log in for second time. got in this time, but time says last visit 11.04am anc correct time was actually 11.15am. Also says this on PC.

So, deduced from that, the FIRST log in IS registering with the forum, but doesn't seem to be showing on the PC. Won't actually let me see anything or actually BE logged in for some reason. But on the second attempt, it DOES recognise that I am logged in but also regonises that I WAS logged in last time too, even though it didn't show on the screen that I was!!!

WHAT the HELL is going on?!!!! I REALLY don't know what is going on now........

God, I know I keep asking, but has ANYONE got ANY ideas on this. I am tearing my bloody hair out with this!!!!

HELP!!!!!!
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 11:29
Try what i said - after the first login attempt,clear your cache and CTRL+F5 the home page.
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Post by: Tem on August 25, 2003, 11:54
IE is weird. IE is random. IE is M$ product. It sucks bigtime especially in caching.

Try Opera, you just might like it  s;) ;) s;)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2003, 15:03
Not sure of this is the same problem but NTL have had some odd problems with one/some caching on their Inktomi cache servers.  I had "log on" problems similar to this on eBay and they posted a message on thier homepage advising users to try setting manual proxy servers within IE.  This worked for me - you will be best trying one thats close to your location.  I just swap betwwen the Nottingham ones when they slow down.

I have pasted the proxy details below ....

Setting an explicit web proxy in Internet Explorer for Windows
The following procedure works on all Windows platforms running Internet
Explorer 5.x/6.x, and the procedure for Internet Explorer 4.x is very
similar:

Open Control Panel Internet Options (or, in IE, pull down menu Tools and
select Internet Options...).
Click on the tab Connections.
Click on button LAN Settings.
Uncheck Automatically detect settings.
Uncheck Use automatic configuration script.
Check Use a proxy server but ensure that the boxes are left blank.
Click on button Advanced:
In the row HTTP fill in the name and port number of your chosen web proxy
server (see below). It is essential that you do not select port 80, even if
your chosen server offers a proxy service on that port.
Ensure that the other rows are left blank.
Uncheck Use the same proxy server for all protocols.
In the Exceptions box enter: 192.168.*
Click OK.
Click OK to exit LAN settings.
Click OK to apply the changes and exit Internet Options.
The last few stages in Advanced avoid using the proxy for Secure HTTPS and
FTP traffic, and ensure that you retain local access to any cable modem
diagnostics pages and to any NAT router setup pages, which typically use
addresses in the range 192.168.xxx.xxx.

To return Internet Explorer to normal operation with no explicit web proxy:

Open Control Panel Internet Options (or in IE pull down menu Tools and
select Internet Options...).
Click on the tab Connections.
Click on button LAN Settings:
Uncheck Automatically detect settings.
Uncheck Use automatic configuration script.
Uncheck Use a proxy server.
Click OK to exit LAN settings.
Click OK to exit Internet Options

Proxy List as at 11/08/03
Use port 8080 for all.

Ashford 1 80.3.96.40 cache1-asfd.server.ntli.net
Ashford 2 80.3.96.42 cache2-asfd.server.ntli.net
Baguley 1 213.106.214.10 inktomi1-bagu.server.ntl.com
Baguley 2 213.106.214.11 inktomi2-bagu.server.ntl.com
Baguley 3 213.106.214.12 inktomi3-bagu.server.ntl.com
Belfast 1 62.254.32.4 cache1-blfs.server.ntli.net
Belfast 2 62.254.32.5 cache2-blfs.server.ntli.net
Belfast 3 62.254.32.6 cache3-blfs.server.ntli.net
Belfast 4 62.254.32.7 cache4-blfs.server.ntli.net
Birmingham 1 62.255.32.4 cache1-brhm.server.ntli.net
Birmingham 2 62.255.32.5 cache2-brhm.server.ntli.net
Birmingham 3 62.255.32.6 cache3-brhm.server.ntli.net
Birmingham 4 62.255.32.7 cache4-brhm.server.ntli.net
Birmingham 5 62.255.32.8 cache5-brhm.server.ntli.net
Brentford 1 62.253.64.4 cache1-brnt.server.ntli.net
Brentford 2 62.253.64.5 cache2-brnt.server.ntli.net
Brentford 3 62.253.64.6 cache3-brnt.server.ntli.net
Brentford 4 62.253.64.7 cache4-brnt.server.ntli.net
Brentford 5 62.253.64.8 cache5-brnt.server.ntli.net
Brentford 6 62.253.64.9 cache6-brnt.server.ntli.net
Brighton 1 80.3.64.4 cache1-brtn.server.ntli.net
Brighton 2 80.3.64.5 cache2-brtn.server.ntli.net
Bristol 1 62.255.0.4 cache1-bstl.server.ntli.net
Bristol 2 62.255.0.5 cache2-bstl.server.ntli.net
Bristol 3 62.255.0.6 cache3-bstl.server.ntli.net
Bristol 4 62.255.0.7 cache4-bstl.server.ntli.net
Bristol 5 62.255.0.8 cache5-bstl.server.ntli.net
Bromley 1 80.1.224.4 inktomi1-bro.server.ntl.com
Bromley 2 80.1.224.5 inktomi2-bro.server.ntl.com
Cambridge 1 62.253.128.4 cache1-cmbg.server.ntli.net
Cambridge 2 62.253.128.5 cache2-cmbg.server.ntli.net
Cambridge 3 62.253.128.6 cache3-cmbg.server.ntli.net
Cambridge 4 62.253.128.7 cache4-cmbg.server.ntli.net
Cardiff 1 62.252.32.4 cache1-cdif.server.ntli.net
Cardiff 2 62.252.32.5 cache2-cdif.server.ntli.net
Cardiff 3 62.252.32.6 cache3-cdif.server.ntli.net
Cardiff 4 62.252.32.7 cache4-cdif.server.ntli.net
Colchester 1 213.107.224.4 cache1-colc.server.ntli.net
Colchester 2 213.107.224.5 cache2-colc.server.ntli.net
Colchester 3 213.107.224.6 cache3-colc.server.ntli.net
Cosham 1 80.3.160.4 inktomi1-cos.server.ntl.com
Cosham 2 80.3.160.5 inktomi2-cos.server.ntl.com
Dublin 1 62.254.96.4 cache1-dbln.server.ntli.net
Dublin 2 62.254.96.5 cache2-dbln.server.ntli.net
Edinburgh 1 62.253.0.4 cache1-edin.server.ntli.net
Edinburgh 2 62.253.0.5 cache2-edin.server.ntli.net
Edinburgh 3 62.253.0.6 cache3-edin.server.ntli.net
Guildford 1 62.252.0.4 cache1-glfd.server.ntli.net
Guildford 2 62.252.0.5 cache2-glfd.server.ntli.net
Guildford 3 62.252.0.6 cache3-glfd.server.ntli.net
Hersham 1 80.3.32.4 cache1-herm.server.ntli.net
Hersham 2 80.3.32.5 cache2-herm.server.ntli.net
Huddersfield 1 62.252.96.4 cache1-hudd.server.ntli.net
Huddersfield 2 62.252.96.5 cache2-hudd.server.ntli.net
Huddersfield 3 62.252.96.6 cache3-hudd.server.ntli.net
Langley 1 62.252.160.4 cache1-lang.server.ntli.net
Langley 2 62.252.160.5 cache2-lang.server.ntli.net
Leeds 1 62.252.224.4 cache1-ldst.server.ntli.net
Leeds 2 62.252.224.5 cache2-ldst.server.ntli.net
Leeds 3 62.252.224.6 cache3-ldst.server.ntli.net
Leeds 4 62.252.224.7 cache4-ldst.server.ntli.net
Leeds 5 62.252.224.8 cache5-ldst.server.ntli.net
Luton 1 62.252.64.4 cache1-lutn.server.ntli.net
Luton 2 62.252.64.5 cache2-lutn.server.ntli.net
Luton 3 62.252.64.6 cache3-lutn.server.ntli.net
Luton 4 62.252.64.7 cache4-lutn.server.ntli.net
Luton 5 62.252.64.8 cache5-lutn.server.ntli.net
Manchester 1 62.252.192.4 cache1-mant.server.ntli.net
Manchester 2 62.252.192.5 cache2-mant.server.ntli.net
Manchester 3 62.252.192.6 cache3-mant.server.ntli.net
Manchester 4 62.252.192.7 cache4-mant.server.ntli.net
Manchester 5 62.252.192.8 cache5-mant.server.ntli.net
Manchester 6 62.252.192.9 cache6-mant.server.ntli.net
Manchester 7 62.252.192.10 cache7-mant.server.ntli.net
Middlesbrough 1 62.254.64.4 cache1-midd.server.ntli.net
Middlesbrough 2 62.254.64.5 cache2-midd.server.ntli.net
Middlesbrough 3 62.254.64.6 cache3-midd.server.ntli.net
Northampton 1 62.253.32.4 cache1-nrth.server.ntli.net
Northampton 2 62.253.32.5 cache2-nrth.server.ntli.net
Northampton 3 62.253.32.6 cache3-nrth.server.ntli.net
Northampton 4 62.253.32.7 cache4-nrth.server.ntli.net
Northampton 5 62.253.32.8 cache5-nrth.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 01 62.254.0.12 cache1-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 02 62.254.0.14 cache2-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 03 62.254.0.16 cache3-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 04 62.254.0.18 cache4-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 05 62.254.0.30 cache5-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 06 62.254.0.32 cache6-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 07 62.254.0.34 cache7-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 08 62.254.0.36 cache8-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 09 62.254.0.38 cache9-nott.server.ntli.net
Nottingham 10 62.254.0.48 cache10-nott.server.ntli.net
Oxford 1 62.254.128.4 cache1-oxfd.server.ntli.net
Oxford 2 62.254.128.5 cache2-oxfd.server.ntli.net
Oxford 3 62.254.128.6 cache3-oxfd.server.ntli.net
Oxford 4 62.254.128.7 cache4-oxfd.server.ntli.net
Peterborough 1 80.3.128.4 cache1-pete.server.ntli.net
Peterborough 2 80.3.128.5 cache2-pete.server.ntli.net
Poplar 1 62.255.64.4 cache1-popl.server.ntli.net
Poplar 2 62.255.64.5 cache2-popl.server.ntli.net
Poplar 3 62.255.64.6 cache3-popl.server.ntli.net
Poplar 4 62.255.64.7 cache4-popl.server.ntli.net
Renfrew 1 62.252.128.4 cache1-renf.server.ntli.net
Renfrew 2 62.252.128.5 cache2-renf.server.ntli.net
Renfrew 3 62.252.128.6 cache3-renf.server.ntli.net
Renfrew 4 62.252.128.7 cache4-renf.server.ntli.net
Renfrew 5 62.252.128.10 cache5-renf.server.ntli.net
Swansea 1 213.105.224.4 cache1-swan.server.ntli.net
Swansea 2 213.105.224.5 cache2-swan.server.ntli.net
Watford 1 80.3.0.4 cache1-wtfd.server.ntli.net
Watford 2 80.3.0.5 cache2-wtfd.server.ntli.net
Winnersh 1 62.253.96.40 cache1-winn.server.ntli.net
Winnersh 2 62.253.96.42 cache2-winn.server.ntli.net
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