Can anyone tell me for sure whether the alloy wheels fitted on a MK3 MR2 can be replaced by warranty if they begin bubble and corrode?
Many thanks.
Mines going into the garage on monday for them to have a look at, I'll let you know what happens.
Hi Justin and welcome to the forum, this subject has been well covered, here is one thread that will show you, clickhere (http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7098&start=0)
Just had all 4 changed under warranty s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D
Booked mine in again for another set of alloys... s:( :( s:( Does anybody know if the coating on them is better now.. s:?: :?: s:?:
Quote from: "dimwit"Booked mine in again for another set of alloys... s:( :( s:( Does anybody know if the coating on them is better now.. s:?: :?: s:?:
I'd guess not in all honesty s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "dimwit"Does anybody know if the coating on them is better now.. s:?: :?: s:?:
my dealer said it had changed but that it was only for the worst and only goes quicker s:( :( s:(
Toyota GB used to use Pristine in Milton Keynes, but since Toyota GB ceased to be a seperate business entity a couple of years ago (Toyota JP now controls all decisions) the wheels have to be returned to Japan for repair.
For the period that Pristine were refurbing the wheels, the quality was much better and my set from them lasted 12+months with no problems at all.
Quote from: "SteveJ"Toyota GB used to use Pristine in Milton Keynes, but since Toyota GB ceased to be a seperate business entity a couple of years ago (Toyota JP now controls all decisions) the wheels have to be returned to Japan for repair.
For the period that Pristine were refurbing the wheels, the quality was much better and my set from them lasted 12+months with no problems at all.
glad you could remember the companies name, i was racking my brain and failed, suppose thats what you get for having 6hrs sleep in 48hrs, shift work, you've gotta hate it s:? :? s:? s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "SteveJ"Toyota GB used to use Pristine in Milton Keynes, but since Toyota GB ceased to be a seperate business entity a couple of years ago (Toyota JP now controls all decisions) the wheels have to be returned to Japan for repair.
For the period that Pristine were refurbing the wheels, the quality was much better and my set from them lasted 12+months with no problems at all.
glad you could remember the companies name, i was racking my brain and failed, suppose thats what you get for having 6hrs sleep in 48hrs, shift work, you've gotta hate it s:? :? s:? s:roll: :roll: s:roll:
They are based in Woburn Sands not that far from me s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
My original set lasted almost two years, but were certainly showing the dreaded signs by that stage. The second set, installed last September have just been replaced under warranty.
Have to say that the marks were minimal but as the warranty expired last Friday I wanted the job doing.
I had no problem with the Service Manager and he also installed a new set of front discs as the set replaced last September(as well) were showing signs of corrosion again.
Not a bad deal!
Shame I'll have to pay from now on...................
Andrew
I got my wheels replaced out of warranty - they will replace them again within a year (of replacement) as long as you have FTSH etc etc.
Worth asking them if it happens again.
Just picked car up from West Riding Toyota,Hudds. Very helpful, have ordered me four new wheels, plus new front discs and pads, so i can't argue with that kind of service.
I have a mate (yes 1!) who works for Land Rover / Jaguar / Ford.
I mentioned that we used to, and maybe still might do, get refurbished wheels.
He told me that for them this is a complete NO NO. In his (and his companies opinion) a replacement under warranty has to be a brand new part.
He even said that he is aware that if a wrong part goes on a car in production, and is then replaced, the old part goes in the bin. Its not used again, at all, ever.
He is not absolutely sure whether that is only his company's policy, but reckons a chat to Trading Standards should confirm one way or the other. So anybody in that position might want to try.
Quote from: "roger"He even said that he is aware that if a wrong part goes on a car in production, and is then replaced, the old part goes in the bin. Its not used again, at all, ever.
for a wheel s:shock: :shock: s:shock: what a terrible waste of resources, we are after all talking about a tiny bit of surface corrosion, not a major component failure
I believe that we get brand new alloys everytime; not refurbished ones.
Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "roger"He even said that he is aware that if a wrong part goes on a car in production, and is then replaced, the old part goes in the bin. Its not used again, at all, ever.
for a wheel s:shock: :shock: s:shock: what a terrible waste of resources, we are after all talking about a tiny bit of surface corrosion, not a major component failure
Maybe, but that's Government Rules & Regulations for you. They often don't compliment each other. Red tape is so much wasted time, effort and money.
Heath, you say we get new wheels, what were your local refurbishers doing then? Were they only looking after non-warranty work?
Quote from: "roger"Quote from: "kanujunkie"Quote from: "roger"He even said that he is aware that if a wrong part goes on a car in production, and is then replaced, the old part goes in the bin. Its not used again, at all, ever.
for a wheel s:shock: :shock: s:shock: what a terrible waste of resources, we are after all talking about a tiny bit of surface corrosion, not a major component failure
Maybe, but that's Government Rules & Regulations for you. They often don't compliment each other. Red tape is so much wasted time, effort and money.
Heath, you say we get new wheels, what were your local refurbishers doing then? Were they only looking after non-warranty work?
I've used them myself in the past. Mr T has told me that they always order brand new alloys from Japan; thats why I had such a big wait on the last change
It's only £150 ish to refurb them if out of warranty and you probably get a years warranty on the refurb. Might be worth it for some if they get really bad. My 2 is 4 years old and the wheels are showing a tiny bit of corrosion now, but not bad enough to do anything about s:) :) s:)
I have my new set on order from Pentagon Toyota, Barnsley. The mechanic says that they don't have this problem at all in Japan, and he thought the problem had been rectified. He said that it must be the damp British weather s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!: I tried to keep a straight face but I couldn't help it, i just laughed and laughed and laughed.................
Quote from: "Richard"I have my new set on order from Pentagon Toyota, Barnsley. The mechanic says that they don't have this problem at all in Japan, and he thought the problem had been rectified. He said that it must be the damp British weather s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:lol: :lol: s:lol: s:!: :!: s:!: s:!: :!: s:!: I tried to keep a straight face but I couldn't help it, i just laughed and laughed and laughed.................
so it's nothing to do with the 60 trillion billion zillion tonnes of salt on the roads then s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "kanujunkie"60 trillion billion zillion tonnes
Is that a scientific measurement? s;) ;) s;)
I had all 4 of mine replaced last year under warranty - they're now all bubbling up again. We're booked in for our 30K service this week and I've taken the car to the dealer so they could see the wheels - they've ordered another 4 for me no problem.. but... they say that because the back 2 of them appear to have been kerbed they may not be able to replace them under warranty.
doesn't make sense to me at all - I'm not asking for them to be changed because I've kerbed it, I'm asking because they're bubbling up.
Also, when I took the car in for them to check them out I was told by the service manager that Mr T recognises the problem and is now offering after-market wheels as an alternative - only problem is that they have have only a line drawing of them and expected me to make up my mind without seeing a photo etc. Apparently if I said yes to the new jobbies then decided I didn't like them when I saw them it would be tough. I left it that they'd try and find me a pic or the proper name etc so I could search t'interwait, but then came back to me saying that it's only on pre-03s so I don't have the option anyway.
So, after all that waffle I have 2 questions:
1) any advice / comments please on how to convince them that they really do need to change all 4 again?
2) anyone else heard of Mr T offering after-market wheels instead nowadays?
Am booked in for thursday so any advice would be very much appreciated?
ta muchly
Sandi
Getting all 4 alloys (11 months old) changed again this Friday, never said anything to me about after-market wheels... s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "swp"Also, when I took the car in for them to check them out I was told by the service manager that Mr T recognises the problem and is now offering after-market wheels as an alternative - only problem is that they have have only a line drawing of them and expected me to make up my mind without seeing a photo etc. Sandi
This must be unique to your dealer as mine knows nothing regarding the aftermarket alloy option s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "swp". they say that because the back 2 of them appear to have been kerbed they may not be able to replace them under warranty.
Sandi
I had my 30k service done not so long ago http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7437
Both of my fronts had been kerbed slightly but they were replaced without any problem.
They also replaced the front pads after skimming the discs.
thanks - will see what they have to say tomorrow.
will also see what I can find out about the aftermarket wheels and let you all know....
Have picked up the 2 from his 30k service today - the good news is they replaced all 4 alloys s:D :D s:D AND they're also going to replace the misting up rear light clusters (that's only taken me a year and a half to persuade them!) s:D :D s:D bad news is that apparently Mr T no longer authorises replacement of rusty discs (as of a week ago they tell me) - but they will paint them. oh well, can't win em all i spose (unless you fellas know anything different???)
the aftermarket alloy option is only available for pre-03s, I'll be speaking to the warranty blokey on monday to check he's ordered my lights so will find out exactly what these are in case any of you are interested....
Quote from: "martin-s"My 2 is 4 years old and the wheels are showing a tiny bit of corrosion now, but not bad enough to do anything about s:) :) s:)
Mine's just started to show the fatal first signs of bubbling as well after 2 years, but nothing to worry about yet. I think I'll wait to closer towards the end of the warranty period...
My 30k 02 plate has alloys starting to flake and minor bubbling as well as extreme rusting on all the hubs. Dealer replaced all the alloys and disks under warranty which expires in a couple of weeks.
Looks like new now - but for how long!!
Tom
Quote from: "Spangles"My 30k 02 plate has alloys starting to flake and minor bubbling as well as extreme rusting on all the hubs. Dealer replaced all the alloys and disks under warranty which expires in a couple of weeks.
Looks like new now - but for how long!!
Tom
time to start saving to either get alloys refurbished next time or a new set. My 53 has had 3 sets of alloys now so your looking at a new set every 10months ish
I'd like to get mine refurbed like markiii's. I think black wheels on a black car with black rotors would look the business.
Gotta try to find someone in Ireland who can do it, though.
Quote from: "Ernie Ball"I think black wheels on a black car with black rotors would look the business.
This wouldn't be Hotblack Desiato's stunt car, would it? s:D :D s:D
(with apologies to Douglas Adams)
Sorry to bring up an old thread,
I remember reading that someone managed to claim for a set of refurbished/new wheels under the Anti-Corrosion Warranty (12Year).
Has anyone managed to claim through this?
i managed to claim for new wheels on my 5 year old car but waste of time, on closer in spection it seems only difference was new wheels come with a tight plastic covering on them to stop things touching the alloy and causign corrosion, and this plastic flakes off
think im just gona get new wheels
a few weeks ago i asked and was told no. mines is an 01 with extended warranty and was told that wheels are only replaced within the first 3 years. also, if you do get a new set of wheels and they corrode after just outside the 3 year warranty, they won't be replaced "Otherwise you would be getting new wheels for life"
going to phone toyota uk and get this officially though.
My Local said the same thing, but I Am sure someone with a 2000, claimed for a new set, wanted to find out who, and call there local, to see if they'll do it for me.
Jist had my in 4 new wheels and the disks painted. 03 plate
My 2 will be three years old in just over two months and it looks like the third set are just starting to go already s:? :? s:? Will have to take it in for replacements before the warrenty finishes and I'll get some new rubber fitted at the same time s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Toyota have agrred to order what will be my fourth set of alloys. I will be also getting a new set of Toyo tyres for them to fit to save me the extra cost of having new tyres fitted later. My front Bridgestone RE40 tyres have about 4mm on them; anyone interested in these s:?: :?: s:?:
The set I had fitted in July last year are showing early signs of bubbling and the car is now out of warranty! s:x :x s:x
Quote from: "Les"The set I had fitted in July last year are showing early signs of bubbling and the car is now out of warranty! s:x :x s:x
Mine will be out of warrenty in six weeks so will just have to have them recoated properly when they corrode in six months time s:? :? s:?
I cant understand the quality of these alloys, they are poor, its almost as though no testing has been done on them by toyota at all. All car manufactures would have you believe that each component has been tested under all sorts of conditions for months on end.
My alloys were changed by the dealership prior to me purchasing the car just less than a year ago. I have only driven in the dry, approx 3000 miles, been tucked away all winter,woke her up after her slumber and to my shock hundreds of grey patches all over the inside of all four wheels.It seems they dont even survive a few months in fresh air, when they should of lasted longer than this if they had been submerged in the sea.Those wheels have been polished more times than i've driven the car, they are certainly not fit for purpose TOYOTA get your act together.
Quote from: "Chrisjam"I cant understand the quality of these alloys, they are poor, its almost as though no testing has been done on them by toyota at all. All car manufactures would have you believe that each component has been tested under all sorts of conditions for months on end.
My alloys were changed by the dealership prior to me purchasing the car just less than a year ago. I have only driven in the dry, approx 3000 miles, been tucked away all winter,woke her up after her slumber and to my shock hundreds of grey patches all over the inside of all four wheels.It seems they dont even survive a few months in fresh air, when they should of lasted longer than this if they had been submerged in the sea.Those wheels have been polished more times than i've driven the car, they are certainly not fit for purpose TOYOTA get your act together.
I know what you mean The 'Toyota Production System'incorportaing lean manufacturing techniques and continuous improvement is copied around the world, so what happened to the alloy quality control s:? :? s:?
One of my rears started looking pitted after about 6months from new. I reported the problem on my first (one year) service. Only had 6,000km on the clock and here in Grece, we do not have salt on the roads! I've taken pics and given them to the dealer. He say they will probably replace them. I'll let you know what happens. I'm not sure if this 'pitting' is the same as the corrosion that others have?
Cheers
Nathan
Getting my fourth set fitted tomorrow with a nice new set of Toyos as well s8) 8) s8)
Out of interest, has anyone had a set refurbed out of warranty? It looks like that is the route I'm going to have to take, I've had a quote for a proper job, i.e. sandblasting, painting, leaving to bake and 4 coats of lacquer at £50 a corner - can choose any colour for the wheels I like. How does this sound?
Cheers
Roo.
Quote from: "Roo"Out of interest, has anyone had a set refurbed out of warranty? It looks like that is the route I'm going to have to take, I've had a quote for a proper job, i.e. sandblasting, painting, leaving to bake and 4 coats of lacquer at £50 a corner - can choose any colour for the wheels I like. How does this sound?
Cheers
Roo.
Probably a better bet to be honest. I have always had to have a brand new set s:? :? s:?
I was quoted £35 / corner by carrick engineering in prestwick for blasting, painting, lacquering and baking, for a 3 day turnaround and me dropping off the wheels to them.
think it was £45 per corner to have it all done in a day.
I need mine doing and they are off the car so that sounds appealing. Im in no rush to get them back.
Phil
Quote from: "philster_d"I need mine doing and they are off the car so that sounds appealing. I'm in no rush to get them back.
Phil
Here is their website (not much on it!)
m http://www.carrickengineering.co.uk/ (http://www.carrickengineering.co.uk/) m
A bit far from you, though?
Thanks, yeah I mean the principle I can loose them for a week or two it doesnt matter.
Phil
Got my new alloys and tyres fitted today but it looks like the wrong extra long valve stems have been fitted again s:? :? s:? Would someone be so kind as to measure the length of their alloy valve stems for me:?:
Quote from: "heathstimpson"Got my new alloys and tyres fitted today but it looks like the wrong extra long valve stems have been fitted again s:? :? s:? Would someone be so kind as to measure the length of their alloy valve stems for me:?:
Can anyone help please with this measurement as I need to tie up with Mr T tomorrow s:?: :?: s:?:
I have also found today that the front and rear tyres face opposite directs. On Toyo proxies should the arrows face forward (my thoughts) or backwards if you get my drift s:?: :?: s:?: s:? :? s:?
Heath
The arrows should face forward, is so much that if you rolled the wheel it would go arrows first.
Proxies are defiately directional and should have an arrow on teh sidewall indicating teh correct fitment.
Quote from: "markiii"Heath
The arrows should face forward, is so much that if you rolled the wheel it would go arrows first.
Proxies are defiately directional and should have an arrow on the sidewall indicating the correct fitment.
Thanks Mark that's what I though; could have been interesting in the wet s:? :? s:? Total muppets seem to be employed by Mr T of late s:cry: :cry: s:cry:
sounds like they put the wheels on teh wrong side of teh car s:-( :-( s:-(
I've just come back from the Toyota dealer. They say that the 'piting' on my ONE wheel is due to excessive 'wheel spinning' and stones causing the exstensive damage. All of the other three wheels are spotless. To me these does not make sense as it does not look like surface damage and how could only one wheel be affected?
(http://www.agni.gr/IMG_3372.jpg)
Nathan
whilst I don't think much of their argument I would have to say that the wheel doesn't look like tehusual bubbling corrosion we are used to seeing.
Quote from: "markiii"whilst I don't think much of their argument I would have to say that the wheel doesn't look like tehusual bubbling corrosion we are used to seeing.
Have to agree; that damage looks more like some sort of scratching/chiping from an external source s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "markiii"sounds like they put the wheels on the wrong side of the car s:-( :-( s:-(
Yep had to go back today to get them to reverse the two fronts as they were incorrect s:? :? s:?
It scares me how useless some garage monkeys are s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Glad you didn't find out the hard way they were on wrong.
Quote from: "proeliator2001"It scares me how useless some garage monkeys are s:shock: :shock: s:shock: Glad you didn't find out the hard way they were on wrong.
I've learnt over the years with all garages to double check what they have done. It's bad that you should have to really s:? :? s:?
And to cap it off when I took the car back to get the wheels changed so that the tyres were the correct way round I told them how dangerous it would be to drive it in the wet like that. And their suggestion; shall we correct it on your booked service in 5 weeks time even though it was their mistake s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:shock: :shock: s:shock: MUPPETS s:? :? s:?
Quote from: "heathstimpson"booked service in 5 weeks time
Give Silverstone Performance a go instead - if MrT can't get wheels right, what do you reckon on everything else?