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Title: Car smashed 2 days after having TTE exhaust fitted.
Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2005, 14:08
I just bought my 2 a couple of weeks ago, and just had the TTE exhausts fitted, which i was very impressed with!.

Unfortunatly two days later, I was driving down the M5 when the traffic came to an abrupt halt, i slammed my brakes and stopped with about 2 metres in distance between the car in front and me.  

Unfortunatly the guy behind managed to demonstrate to me what it feels like to be taken from behind by a corsa!.  Quite simply i said to the copper, that it was very painful!.

(http://www.warkscol.ac.uk/library/images/mike/smash.jpg)

My car has just been taken to the repair centre all courtesy of Adrian Flux, although i am a bit concerned as the driver of the repair centre lorry seemed to think that my new exhaust system was only just the pipes.  I tried to explain to him that it was a complete new system fitted by Toyota, which seemed to go in one ear and out the other.

I just hope that they repair everything!.  

Do you guys have any recommendations on what i can check to ensure everything has been repaired correctly, assuming it will be repaired that is.  When i had a quick look in the engine bay, it seemed as though a piece of metal which sits over the exhaust bit was bent in and i imagine the back box was also knackered as well as some kind of pin which sits behind the rear bumper seems to be bent.[/img]
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Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2005, 15:38
Thats terrible, sorry for you mate.

Demonstrates yet again how good the brakes are on the 2 compared to other cars!

2 owners should be able to do 10 mph over the speed limit all the time, as most accidents seem to involve someone hitting from behind.

Gutted for you, as the duels looked nice!
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Post by: Liz on August 23, 2005, 15:42
Sorry to see/hear what has happened to you, when I was rear ended by a Fiesta the damage took out near enough the whole nearside at the back and it was repaired - you will have no problems with that damage.

I wouldn't take any notice of the lorry driver, he probably has nothing to do with the fixing up of your car.

As Craig said the brakes on these are brilliant, if you put them on hard no one behind you with lesser brakes stands a chance.
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Post by: dreambackup on August 23, 2005, 15:48
that sux  s:evil: :evil: s:evil:  

I hate those stupid people: can't they just THINK of their car's ability to brake? I mean, come on, it is NOT possible a Corsa, Nova or Astra (and most of the others, actually!) can brake harder than a "sport car". I can't believe it when I see a saloon closely following a Carrera...

I sometime see people getting between me and the car in front where there is less space they might need for parallel parking (ok, some are really bad at it too  s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:  ).

our licence plates should indicate how long it takes to brake from 60 to 0 (by color, for instance)  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

no, seriously, maybe they'd understand that following at 5m is suicide because we brake 10m shorter!
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Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2005, 16:43
Sorry to hear of your troubles. I'm sure it will repair okay.

On a lighter note:
The thing I would check when I got it back would be the TTE alignment if MrT is doing it. It may look even worse than in your picture  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 23, 2005, 17:34
Quote from: "dreambackup"I mean, come on, it is NOT possible a Corsa, Nova or Astra (and most of the others, actually!) can brake harder than a "sport car". I can't believe it when I see a saloon closely following a Carrera...

Not too sure you can group all cars together - our Astra Coupe Cabby has seriously good all round disk brakes! and its only an Astra!  Come to think of it the 300mm disks on our ST are pretty good stoppers and thats only a focus.  But I agree as a general point.
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Post by: kanujunkie on August 23, 2005, 18:46
holy c**p, sorry to hear of you probs mate, hope you get her fixed up soon  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: fg on August 24, 2005, 09:15
Thats bad luck, look(s)ed nice as well, very tempted to get the upgraded exhausts when i can afford it, but NOT if they become Corsa magnets!

My Astra Coupe had good brakes as well, but the standard Astras are much worse, proved by the guy that hit me up the back, got out of his car and said "hmmm, your car stops quickly!" DOH. Still his was red, mine was red, and i only needed a bit of t-cut.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2005, 11:28
Gutted, of course. But most importantly, YOU are Ok.............its only a car..........
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Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2005, 12:34
Gutted mate, sweet car otherwise.

Who did your exhaust and what did it cost you?
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Post by: Chris on August 24, 2005, 17:26
reading between the lines on his first thread, then i would imagine that his dealer fitted it, as it's (was!) a tte dual...

the bent bit of metal over the backbox is just a heatshield, and should get replaced along with all the other bits i guess..
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Post by: heathstimpson on August 24, 2005, 21:30
Sorry to hear the news matey; at least you are fine. Or have you now got a whiplash injury  s:?: :?: s:?:    s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 15:19
Thanks for all your support and comments guys.  Car is at the repair centre now being repaired, so i will be driving my Golf GT TDI for at least a few more weeks.

It has to be said though, that i am really missing the '2 at the moment.  I keep opening all the windows in the golf in an attempt to simulate the roof down effect ;(

To answer a few questions about my recently deceased TTE exhausts.

I had them dealer fitted, only bought the car a few weeks before i had exhausts fitted and i managed to get a good deal on them.
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Post by: t11 gup on August 25, 2005, 16:17
Man   s:( :( s:(   thats a sorry picture!!! Hope everything is sorted out quickly and to the highest quality!! I have had the TTE fitted a couple of months ago and added it to the insurance only to be told that it went up 120quid and if its damaged in an accident im only covered to get a stock one put back on   s:( :( s:(   so i always get nevous when i have to break hard!!
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 16:19
What insuance company you with?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 16:25
Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)
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Post by: roger on August 25, 2005, 20:00
Quote from: "mokeyb"Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)

I would strongly suggest you consult a solicitor if you haven't already done so.

You might not want to make a Personal Injury claim against the other driver, but these things have a habit of coming to the surface in a few months time. You definitely don't want the other guy's insurance company to close their book on it, especially with your sign off of the car repair. There would be no way back after that if something did flare up.
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Post by: heathstimpson on August 25, 2005, 20:59
Quote from: "roger"
Quote from: "mokeyb"Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)

I would strongly suggest you consult a solicitor if you haven't already done so.

You might not want to make a Personal Injury claim against the other driver, but these things have a habit of coming to the surface in a few months time. You definitely don't want the other guy's insurance company to close their book on it, especially with your sign off of the car repair. There would be no way back after that if something did flare up.
Totally agree; you must declare an injury asap. You are likely to get quite a hefty payout that could be used for buying some nice toys for your newly repaired 2  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 21:26
Quote from: "heathstimpson"
Quote from: "roger"
Quote from: "mokeyb"Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)

I would strongly suggest you consult a solicitor if you haven't already done so.

You might not want to make a Personal Injury claim against the other driver, but these things have a habit of coming to the surface in a few months time. You definitely don't want the other guy's insurance company to close their book on it, especially with your sign off of the car repair. There would be no way back after that if something did flare up.
Totally agree; you must declare an injury asap. You are likely to get quite a hefty payout that could be used for buying some nice toys for your newly repaired 2  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Yes but only if your really injured, a false claim just pushes up insurance costs for everyone else
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Post by: kanujunkie on August 25, 2005, 21:28
Quote from: "DavidM"
Quote from: "heathstimpson"
Quote from: "roger"
Quote from: "mokeyb"Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)

I would strongly suggest you consult a solicitor if you haven't already done so.

You might not want to make a Personal Injury claim against the other driver, but these things have a habit of coming to the surface in a few months time. You definitely don't want the other guy's insurance company to close their book on it, especially with your sign off of the car repair. There would be no way back after that if something did flare up.
Totally agree; you must declare an injury asap. You are likely to get quite a hefty payout that could be used for buying some nice toys for your newly repaired 2  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Yes but only if your really injured, a false claim just pushes up insurance costs for everyone else

a few visits to A&E should be all the evidence needed
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Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2005, 21:46
Quote from: "kanujunkie"
Quote from: "DavidM"
Quote from: "heathstimpson"
Quote from: "roger"
Quote from: "mokeyb"Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)

I would strongly suggest you consult a solicitor if you haven't already done so.

You might not want to make a Personal Injury claim against the other driver, but these things have a habit of coming to the surface in a few months time. You definitely don't want the other guy's insurance company to close their book on it, especially with your sign off of the car repair. There would be no way back after that if something did flare up.
Totally agree; you must declare an injury asap. You are likely to get quite a hefty payout that could be used for buying some nice toys for your newly repaired 2  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Yes but only if your really injured, a false claim just pushes up insurance costs for everyone else

a few visits to A&E should be all the evidence needed

Yes thats what they all do. A driver at work had a small (and I mean small) collision with another vehicle. It looked like somebody had opened their door too vigourously in a car park and caught the adjacent stationery vehicle. The driver of the other vehicle is now claiming thats he's self employed and been unable to work, with numerous offers of work, which due to his "injury" he has had to decline, and is claiming £25 per hour lost revenue!

I'm not saying that mokeyb is doing the same thing. You can clearly see that he's had a whack up the rear. But only claim if there is a genuine injury.
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Post by: kanujunkie on August 25, 2005, 22:01
its the claims'r'us syndrome that were against here me thinks?
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Post by: heathstimpson on August 26, 2005, 06:09
Quote from: "DavidM"
Quote from: "heathstimpson"
Quote from: "roger"
Quote from: "mokeyb"Yes we did get quite bad whiplash, had a couple of visits to Accident and Emergency with a few more symptons too.  But feeling much better now, could have been much worse.  Looking forward to getting my car back  s:) :) s:)

I would strongly suggest you consult a solicitor if you haven't already done so.

You might not want to make a Personal Injury claim against the other driver, but these things have a habit of coming to the surface in a few months time. You definitely don't want the other guy's insurance company to close their book on it, especially with your sign off of the car repair. There would be no way back after that if something did flare up.
Totally agree; you must declare an injury asap. You are likely to get quite a hefty payout that could be used for buying some nice toys for your newly repaired 2  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

Yes but only if your really injured, a false claim just pushes up insurance costs for everyone else
Could not agree more; but a couple of visits to A&E were not for nothing I would persume  s:? :? s:?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2005, 09:19
Thanks for input.

No i did not enjoy sitting in A&E for 4 hours.  

I have had whiplash before but not like this.  I hit my head quite hard on the seat which surprising hurt seeing as its usually so comfy!.

I couldn't move my neck after the accident with a constant headache, which made me go to A&E the first time.  

Then when we got back after the doctor saying you have whiplash i bent under my car to inspect the damage only to have strange fluid start pouring out of my nose when i tilted my head upside down.  It was very strange! it also worrying looked like cerebral fluid according to the nurse (missus) which ofcause didn't make me very calm!.  So ofcause i got back into the car and headed back to A&E.

I have initiated a claim through my solicitors which Adrian Flux all initiated although im not taking the michael with it and claiming loss of earnings or anything, im just saying what happened and what symptons i am still suffering from.  

If i get any compensation then great but im not holding my breathe.  

I am happy that we were both ok, could have been a lot worse. Im also happy that my lovely '2 is coming home from its holidays shortly.  I have spent so many hours on this forum since my car went away and looking at all your great cars just makes me want it back even more!.

I have even started planning my first mod's.  Sun visors are coming straight off i think!.
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Post by: Tem on August 26, 2005, 09:41
Quote from: "dreambackup"I hate those stupid people: can't they just THINK of their car's ability to brake? I mean, come on, it is NOT possible a Corsa, Nova or Astra (and most of the others, actually!) can brake harder than a "sport car". I can't believe it when I see a saloon closely following a Carrera...

The problem is that they do think. They think that it's a great idea to get little closer to see the car better.


Quoteno, seriously, maybe they'd understand that following at 5m is suicide because we brake 10m shorter!

And even if they had superior brakes which stop the car at 0m when you touch the pedal, they have already hit the car in front before they even react to the braking  s:? :? s:?


Have to admit it sometimes scares me to see someone trying to touch my rear bumper (I think that's what they are trying, cause there's no other reason to drive so close). If I had to brake, he'd hit me before he even realized I hit the brakes. I found that a best way to get rid of those is to slow down more and more when someone gets too close. They either pass or leave more space inbetween. I may have to slow down several times, but eventually they get the point.
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Post by: aaronjb on August 26, 2005, 11:29
Sorry to read about the car, but I have to say, this bit:

Quote from: "mokeyb"i bent under my car to inspect the damage only to have strange fluid start pouring out of my nose when i tilted my head upside down.  It was very strange! it also worrying looked like cerebral fluid according to the nurse (missus) which ofcause didn't make me very calm!.  So ofcause i got back into the car and headed back to A&E.

Did make me chuckle...

"Eek, I think my brain is leaking! Right, I'll just pop down to A&E in the car..."  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

I imagine it was sinus fluid, by the way? At a guess.. A good smack to the head often 'breaks the seal' so to speak, and starts your sinuses draining, especially when you bend over (I speak from Windsurfing experience.. although then they were draining due to all the salt water that had just been forced up my nose and into every available cavity after a spectacular dismount  s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  )
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Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 09:14
I totally agree Tem.  

I even used to slow down in my CTR which could have left a lot of cars standing.  

As i always say "better to have someone like that in front of you than  behind you"

Unfortunatly on motorways there is sometimes nothing you can do.  

A few years ago i remember a story my dad told me.  He was coming down a motorway in the early hours of the morning when he came across two lorries in the inside and middle lane, so he went into the fast lane to over take.  During this time he saw a car coming up behind him probably exceeding 130mph, so he tried to get past the lorry and pull back into the other lane.  Now you would think that any sensible person who was driving this mercedes doing 130mph would think, "ahhh there is no where to go, i will slow down until there is an opening".  But no, the mercedes driver decided it would be best to ram my dads car even though it was still overtaking the lorry.  Luckily my dad was fine but who knows what was going through that nutters head in the mercedes.  

Its always best to just let them get past you.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2005, 09:28
aaronjb, lol  s:) :) s:)  my actual thoughts where "right im not unconsious, can't be that bad!".

I think it was sinus fluid, although the people at a&e just said, well you have not got pins and needles or any other symptons to suggest a head injury so your fine.

I do have sinus problems anyway im actually due for an op in october so hopefully they won't have to do it now!.  There we go miracle cure to sinus problems a good crack around the head.[/quote]
Title: My car is coming home!
Post by: Anonymous on September 12, 2005, 13:43
Just got the word that after almost 1.5 months my car is finally on its way back!.  So excited.  Really looking forward to the car coming home, although i am quite worried that it wont look like it did when it left.   Am i expecting too much in thinking it will look like new?.
Title: Re: My car is coming home!
Post by: kanujunkie on September 12, 2005, 14:00
Quote from: "mokeyb"Just got the word that after almost 1.5 months my car is finally on its way back!.  So excited.  Really looking forward to the car coming home, although i am quite worried that it wont look like it did when it left.   Am i expecting too much in thinking it will look like new?.

if its done properly it should look like new, i wouldn't expect less, glad to hear the good news though  s:D :D s:D