Great news for all you modders.
If you visit spyderchat.com, theres a guy selling Style bars/hoops. They are priced @ 378Eur = £261.00 shipping 40 Eur = £27.00
How about a group buy? He states that he does Group buys.
Where's the link s:?: :?: s:?:
I take it these are David's, the French guy. They are a lovely bit of kit, the only ones I have seen that I really like and I've been tempted for over six months to get some of these now, but am having trouble justifying the cost.
As for a GB, the last post I saw from him stated that he would sell singly at the original GB price, so I doubt we could get any more off, but it could be worth a try. I'd be interested at any rate....
See below, as Cartell left the link out s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5958&highlight=&sid=d986d8f9cb036c52edad30efc4a300c0
only thing that would worry me is what happens if the car ends up on its roof...
I like the mounting point on them but think they look to TT'ish.......i.e. too thin. s:? :? s:?
Must admit though, the TT ones are worse cos they a tall & gangly.
Quote from: "SilverMSD2"I like the mounting point on them but think they look to TT'ish.......i.e. too thin. s:? :? s:?
Must admit though, the TT ones are worse cos they a tall & gangly.
The TT bars are apart of the car and will save you in a roll, i'd guess that these would just fold up like a mouse trap.
Quote from: "Slacey"As for a GB, the last post I saw from him stated that he would sell singly at the original GB price, so I doubt we could get any more off, but it could be worth a try. I'd be interested at any rate....
Might save a bit on shipping if a load came over at one?
They look quite nice. Anyone know if they're easy to fit?
J
According to the guys who have bought previously (mostly US based), they are simple to fit, especially if you go for the pre-cut plastics David can supply.
As for the issue of what would happen in an accident, he does sell them as style bars, with no guarantees of structural ability, so I guess you take your chances. I'm still tempted, especially as he designed them to work with the hardtop too.
Quote from: "WoodenDummy"only thing that would worry me is what happens if the car ends up on its roof...
You'd probably scratch them and have to get them repaired. s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I still fancy some of the Chrome Design hoops - they are nice and chunky, but Davids are a lot cheaper so could be a good compromise, at least you can still use the wind deflector. Details on a group buy would be good, but they'd still take some justifying to the missus. s:( :( s:(
He does some very nice centre consoles too, but he doesn't mention price:
(http://mapage.noos.fr/dav2000/jc/tc8.jpg)
(http://mapage.noos.fr/dav2000/jc/lc2.gif)
ummmm... think the jury is still out on that one.... s:? :? s:?
I like the idea of the sweeping centre console, but in metalic silver.... s:? :? s:? s:shock: :shock: s:shock: s:? :? s:?
Don't like the look of the top one. Too much "in your face"
A question for the more observant of you peeps out there. Do you prefer the first or second design s:?: :?: s:?:
He could also do with some of DP's arn rests s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D
Quote from: "krisclarkuk"ummmm... think the jury is still out on that one.... s:? :? s:?
The jury has come back in, they say it's nasty. (IMHO of course)
Maybe we should arrange a club weekend to France to pick them up. Anyone know where abouts he lives?
Wish I hadn't been reminded of the Chrome Design ones - they're lovely but waaaay more than I want to spend.
Are style hoops an insurance s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: "mod"?
J
I prefer the second... cup holders are of no use to me... NO ONE is allowed to eat/drink/smoke etc in my car! s:D :D s:D
No no Non, nein, nacht, nope!!! It just looks exactly what it is........homemade! NO!!!!
Just.......
bloody.......
NO!!!!!!! Goddamn!!! s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
Quote from: "John Woodward"No no Non, nein, nacht, nope!!! It just looks exactly what it is........homemade! NO!!!!
Just.......
bloody.......
NO!!!!!!! Goddamn!!! s:evil: :evil: s:evil:
yup, your right - if it was say a factory fit option or something, then that would probably been something that i would have wanted to go for.
I don't like either of 'em. For heaven's sake it's Mid Rear, not Front Rear. I don't need and don't want a transmission tunnel. The first one, not only do I not like the chrome, but I really really hate the cheap looking molded plastic (is it plastic?) bit in the middle too.
The second one would be more my style, a bit more sublet, a bit less in your face... but again, I don't want a transmission tunnel.
Kris, I might not even like it if it was factory fit option!!! Mind you, it does look very handmade, so I suppose that is what is putting me off. I liek chrome in the inside of a car, but there are limits! s:wink: :wink: s:wink: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
And Phil, your also right. My old Mk1 was mid-rear too (obviously s:roll: :roll: s:roll: ) and that HAD the transmission tunnel and it really annoyed me sometimes when my knees used to bang and so on. Other than that, it was OK to rest your arm!
Quote from: "phil4"I don't like either of 'em. For heaven's sake it's Mid Rear, not Front Rear. I don't need and don't want a transmission tunnel. The first one, not only do I not like the chrome, but I really really hate the cheap looking molded plastic (is it plastic?) bit in the middle too.
The second one would be more my style, a bit more sublet, a bit less in your face... but again, I don't want a transmission tunnel.
I agree Phil, but I do kinda like that metal shift gate...
Quote from: "John Woodward"And Phil, your also right. My old Mk1 was mid-rear too (obviously s:roll: :roll: s:roll: ) and that HAD the transmission tunnel and it really annoyed me sometimes when my knees used to bang and so on. Other than that, it was OK to rest your arm!
im a lanky git so my leg rests against the piller near the stereo anyway, so that would not bother me! s:D :D s:D
I KNEW there was some advantage to being a short arse. Just that it has taken me 31 years to figure it out!!!! s:roll: :roll: s:roll: s:lol: :lol: s:lol:
Quote from: "Jimbob"Are style hoops an insurance s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted: "mod"?
Are you taking the p*ss, Jim? s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
Umm. No. s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Spose it was a stupid question, just that since it doesn't make the car faster/more dangerous/more likely to be stolen etc why should they care? Guess it's the where do you draw the line thing but that's covered in topics elsewhere.
J
Quote from: "Jimbob"Umm. No. s:oops: :oops: s:oops:
Spose it was a stupid question, just that since it doesn't make the car faster/more dangerous/more likely to be stolen etc why should they care? Guess it's the where do you draw the line thing but that's covered in topics elsewhere.
No, not a stupid question Jim, I was referring to the major hassle I have just had with my (ex)insurance company over my mods, wondered if you were being sarcastic! s:wink: :wink: s:wink:
I think I can definately say from very recent experience though, that any 'appearance' modifications are cool with the insurance co's, so the bars shouldn't be any problem.
Quote from: "Slacey"I think I can definately say from very recent experience though, that any 'appearance' modifications are cool with the insurance co's, so the bars shouldn't be any problem.
...but should still be declared.
Quote from: "pmdye"Quote from: "Slacey"I think I can definately say from very recent experience though, that any 'appearance' modifications are cool with the insurance co's, so the bars shouldn't be any problem.
...but should still be declared.
Yeah, if you have a crunch you won't need the exta hassle s:? :? s:?
so if you had a crunch and got injured by the bar folding would yo be covered for personal injury?
Quote from: "markiii"so if you had a crunch and got injured by the bar folding would yo be covered for personal injury?
I'd guess not.
Right folks. I am prepared to organise a Group Buy for David's Styling Bars. I have emailed him with the suggestion of 350 euros and free delivery to my address only, provided we can order 10 or more. Waiting for a reply. Also need to know the weight of a set to find out the UK Parcel Force charge.
BTW if you go onto his web-site (link at the foot of his spyderchat post) you can view more detail of the 2 consols. The less flashy one looks narrower, but it says it's made of leather.
s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D
So, that works out around £245 at todays rates, and being local I could pick them up from you... I'd be in I reckon s:D :D s:D
Will we have 10 interested people though....?
Only 8 or more needed if I can persuade David to do the deal. Haven't heard back from him yet. Hopefully, Parcel Force will charge a lot less than the petrol for Telford/Wythall/Telford. Pity I can't cram everything in before next week-end s:!: :!: s:!:
s:D :D s:D s:D :D s:D
I'm interseted, just got to convince my ickle woman I need them. That'll be the hoovering,ironing,washing her car, decorating and, oh yes I'll probaly have to kiss her. The rest I can handle, but this will really test how much I need them & my will power. Keep your fingers crossed for me. The thing we do for the one we really love.
I'm interested too.
QuoteThe TT bars are apart of the car and will save you in a roll, i'd guess that these would just fold up like a mouse trap.
I am not trying to debate again on the subject, because I saw many time on Spyderchat that you were absolutely against the style bar, but I want to give you (and also to the others) my opinion and some help about it, so that everybody could choose ...
First, for example, you can learn what Bill Merton on Spyderchat says about it:
""""""I have David's style bars. While not real roll bars, it's not like you can move them or bend them easily. They *have* to provide SOME benefit, in the case of rollover. They certainly can't hurt.
I hear this "cause injury" stuff every now and then. I've even heard people saying they'll bend and snap and end up strangling you.
Puhlease...
If they were to bend forward (toward your head, they will not get over/past the seat back, as the seat back is at virtually the same height, especially considering that it's located farther forward of the style bar mounting points.
Again, they are NOT roll bars, but certainly have to supplement the windshield and seat backs, should a car roll. A little something extra there is better than nothing, IMHO.
(That's not the reason I bought 'em, though. They were mainly an appearance mod for me."""""""
So, I can compare my bars to the Autopower which is the only one more or less certified for a road use, but no for races.
It has 2 big external crutches and mine only 2 interior: it is stronger than mine in the longitudinal axe, but if it folds forward, it can goes above the seats, but mine
no (see what Bill says above).
+ Mine has 2 fixings more screwed strongly
in the stock transversal bar , so it can't collapse at the middle; if it was the case, the stock transversal bar will collapse with it ,and if the bar collapse, the wings, ...the doors with it...
Anyway , I don't guarantee anything, and I sell it as a style bar.David
I don't think you need to justify your bars David, I and a few others are interested in purchasing some from you as they look good on the car (IMO anyway) and will make up our own minds about safety. I have followed the threads on Spyderchat since the bars conception, I liked them when you showed the first pictures on your own car, and saw the way you handled the soft-top rubbing problem; I have every confidence in your work. I do hope we can get a GB going, but I'll leave all matters related to that to Roger, as you are already in discussion.
Sean
Quote from: "david 0153"Anyway , I don't guarantee anything, and I sell it as a style bar.
David
And I never asked you to, my comment said buying them would leave doubts in my mind. I know Bill from SC quite well and I know what he wrote.
"A little something extra there is better than nothing" is just not right, the stress the car has to go though in a bad roll over is incredible, i've put a stripped out racer on its roof and still to this day have no idea how I managed to walk away from it. That HAD a roof and was almost as flat as a pancake. EVERYthing flys off in a roll over, why do you think Toyota made the door handles outta plastic!
I never asked you to defend your bars in a roll over, I drive with a hardtop on my car for the sake of chassis bracing, I have no problem with someone fitting your bars for the sake of style. I just said that if I fitted them it would be in the back of my mind, but then my hardtop is also. I wasn't aiming to bad mouth your product.
OK, OK Wooden Dummy, no problem s:) :) s:)
David
@david 0153
I removed the Postert one and will mount your Parts. Your Work is very good Quality.
I send you email last week to order the chrome one