Project Custard - Gearbox issues

[markiii]

leftfield idea but, a complete built stage 4 race unit from Monkeywrench isn;t hideously expensive if your going there ultmately anyway

depends if teh DIY route is teh fun or not

[custardavenger]

Hmm. Can't see the Stage 4 on their site. Can see a built block $3975 (+ shipping and import) Then it's a case of adding the other parts you want. Probably gonna be too expensive, and I quite like the idea of DIYing it. Good call though.

[Anonymous]

Boring & sleeving the block will be super-expensive. Better to go +0.5mm, get matching Wiseco pistons & Crower rods.

Use the money you were going to put into a 82mm sleeving job to get the head ported & change to Supertech valves with Crower retainers & springs.

Fit Stage-I cams to get decent gains whilst keeping it streetable.

I would tend to stick to 10.5:1 or 9.5:1 CR so you have some torque off-boost.

Sounds like a fun (expensive) project....

If you end up going for Wiseco pistons then let me know. We may be able to arrange a small GB to get a better price as I am looking for a set +0.5mm 12.5:1 CR myself...

[custardavenger]

Boring & sleeving the block will be super-expensive. Better to go +0.5mm, get matching Wiseco pistons & Crower rods.

Use the money you were going to put into a 82mm sleeving job to get the head ported & change to Supertech valves with Crower retainers & springs.

Fit Stage-I cams to get decent gains whilst keeping it streetable.

I would tend to stick to 10.5:1 or 9.5:1 CR so you have some torque off-boost.

Sounds like a fun (expensive) project....

If you end up going for Wiseco pistons then let me know. We may be able to arrange a small GB to get a better price as I am looking for a set +0.5mm 12.5:1 CR myself...

Cheers. Have to say I'm thinking your right the more threads I read though need to find some more info on Wiseco pistons as I've had very mixed reviews. I definately want to keep it stock compression to leave me the room to go mad and buy a C30-94 Rotrex (I wish)
Maybe a bit of cash bit will be building it slowly over the year to put in next winter (unless I can afford it sooner)

I was gonna do an update at the weekend but I'll do it now. I should be picking up a 2005 18K engine on friday from Leeds. aven't actually paid yet as I want to give it a look over, so more details when it's an actual sale. This should allow me to concentrate on the other winter mods and get the SC kit really good.

[loadswine]

Sounds good Rob, some sound reasoning there. Finding this thread very interesting.
 If you go for a C30-94, let me know, it might be worth looking into a gb of some sort.

[custardavenger]

Well I asked Richard a while back and I believe they used to be about £1000. but with the pound as it is i have no idea now.

Plan would be to get mod done on intake and fit/build charge cooler. Then a new exhaust manifold to give some more clearance and then maybe a 94 rotrex. so quite a way to go and also alot of money. Would probably want to get my kit good enough to sell on to then help fund new rotrex. That said I need to do some suspension work in there too. Oh and buy a house.

Nige. Have you got a tunable ECU or is it stock for that engine. Your's would be a killer with a rotrex.

[loadswine]

Its a long term project Rob, and would need a Link G4 or similar, plus mapping and a few bits also. Like you though mate, I have other bits to sort first.

[custardavenger]

Right so I'm not a happy bunny. Was all set to drive up to Leeds and pick up the new engine when i look and I've go a missed call from the seller. Rang back and couldn't get to speak to the guy I need to but the arse I spoke said that the Engine had Been sent out that morning fo compression testing and had failed!. Why hadn't it been tested like the said it had. more like they sold it to someone else for more money. W#@$#rs.

So I'm back on the hunt. Have another one in Sheffield which is in the car running. but he won't shift on the price or throw in any ancilleries.

Watch this space for more bad news I'm guessing.    s:roll: :roll: s:roll:

[loadswine]

Hang in there mate, it will be worth it when you whiz along with that Rotrex singing away behind you on that deserted country road.  s8) s8)

[custardavenger]

Yeah I know Nige. I guess I'm just down as it feels like I'm not doing anything on it being stuck up in Nottingham working all the over time I can. And was looking forward to going down this weekend to put it in the garrage and try a couple of bits I've made on it. Shall be in work instead. Maybe I'll get on the lathe ad do a Throotle body to make me feel better   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:

[uktotty]

Hey Rob that sux, why cant these people be honest!!
Was even gonna get my hands dirty and help you out this weekend! oh well  s:) s:)

[custardavenger]

Don't worry Russ as soon as I have something dirty to do I'll call for the use of your hands.   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:    s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

I'll find an engine from somewhere. Gonna see the sheffield one on Friday if everything goes ahead.

[markiii]

Don't worry Russ as soon as I have something dirty to do I'll call for the use of your mind.

fixed for you  :-) :-) :-)

[Christopherathens]

Impressive project Rob!!  s:) s:)  
I think you are going to have great things when it's completed!!!  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  

Sorry to read about the motor though,hope you find another one soon!

Chris

[custardavenger]

Impressive project Rob!!  s:) s:)  
I think you are going to have great things when it's completed!!!  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  

Sorry to read about the motor though,hope you find another one soon!

Chris

Cheers Chris.

I'm learning the hard way   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Completed. Now thats a word that I will probably never say about my car. I have lots of ideas, some for very exciting things that have not been done yet. Watch this space.

So anyway, been meaning to ask you. That kit you posted a pic of. Did you buy it as a kit? Or did you get the list of parts and find your own stuff?

Also the charge cooler is different orientation to the USA boys. Is that to do with the 2zz?

[Christopherathens]

Impressive project Rob!!  s:) s:)  
I think you are going to have great things when it's completed!!!  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:  

Sorry to read about the motor though,hope you find another one soon!

Chris

Cheers Chris.

I'm learning the hard way   s:lol: :lol: s:lol:  

Completed. Now thats a word that I will probably never say about my car. I have lots of ideas, some for very exciting things that have not been done yet. Watch this space.

So anyway, been meaning to ask you. That kit you posted a pic of. Did you buy it as a kit? Or did you get the list of parts and find your own stuff?

Also the charge cooler is different orientation to the USA boys. Is that to do with the 2zz?

Learning the hard way makes success sweeter Rob!  s:) s:)  
Just by looking at the things you made i am sure it will be completed soon!!  s:wink: :wink: s:wink:  
About the Rotrex kit,it was one of the last kits that WEB3.0 sold.It has everything that you need except fuel management(i already have the PFC) and monitoring equipment..
About the chargecooler,you are right about the different orientation.That was just a mistake that SILICON INTAKES did and i am expecting my new chargecooler soon (inlet-outlet on the same side).
 Let me just point out that you can buy a whole chargecooler setup(heat exchanger front,Bosch pump,Chargecooler unit) with just 500$.

 Once i begin the install(January),i will surely make a topic here with many pictures as we(me and my mechanic) go along..
Looking forward seeing your work!!
  s:bounce: :bounce: s:bounce:

[custardavenger]

Hmm. Go on then where do you get the charge cooler kit from? I don't actually need the front heat exchanger (am going metro) just want a bosch pump and a charge cooler, Maybe a header tank though I might go custom as i'm running out of room in the engine bay. Wasn't sure about Silicone intakes charge coolers. Bought one from ebay (the size larger than the one your waiting for. Too big, Doh!) but it's really heavy! I guess I'd want the Type 20 but need to have a proper measure up. I know it would be much cheaper than doing the custom job, Unless   s:idea: :idea: s:idea:   I buy one, rip it apart and use the core for a custom one.

[custardavenger]

The other thing I'm not sure about is do I change the MAF pipe size again? I reduced it back to stock from oversized but the plan on the new pipework is to build it as if I was running a C30-94 so don't know whether to go 3". Not a problem yet but is another one of those things on my mind.  s8) s8)

[uktotty]

Rob, my mate is coming from LA to Oxford in Decmeber, not sure if this will help with shipping costs??

[custardavenger]

Are you sure he'd be happy to bring something? I have actually just e-mailed silicone intakes to find out the weight. Just a shame we're not getting the same value buying from the US.

[custardavenger]

OK seams I have a Charge Cooler desision to make.
Either
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or
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I can't help but want the larger core but think I may have an issue with the length anyway. Also the SC output is 50mm O/D no matter which model. so I'm thinking run 2.5 all the way to the TB. This keeps the MAF in a stock ish size (same as current), means that there is no change in pipe size between CC and TB so the flow through the MAF should be better and that piece of pipe shorter. As I'll be running water injection as well I should have plenty of cooling should I go for the big upgrade. Still I hope I can get the small one in and why the hell isn't it cheaper.   s:evil: :evil: s:evil:

Thats said the core is quite a bit bigger on the larger one and if I'm getting the pipes welded to the CC anyway I may as well go the whole hog. surely an extra 1" won't be a problem?

Arrg!!

[uktotty]

Looks like a goer on the shipping to LA and he can bring it over end of Dec.

[custardavenger]

Did you get my text about the extra stuff?

[custardavenger]

Ok latest engine update.

I still don't have one.

Was really unhappy with the one in sheffield. They had cut it out of the car and btoke lots of bolt on bit I would have wanted and was covered in oil and very rusty for a 2005. Have decided to leave buying an engine till I'm actually ready to put it in so if I get a warenty then it won't run out before I try the engine. Will be also asking a local scrap ayrd if they can get cars to order and I can strip it out myself.

Other news, Charge cooler and pump ordered. these won't get fitted for a while as I can't afford pipework yet.

[custardavenger]

Happy new year dear readers

Not much to tell yet but should get exciting soon. I have been doing the manifold at work and am half way through.

Here is how it was, A little rusty and not looking very nice.



Heat shield lugs removed and sand blasted.





A coat of DEI high temp paint.




Hopefully get it wrapped this week.