My Woodsport V6 conversion.

[s12vea]

Very nice. Just need to see and hear a video now  s;) s;)

[StuC]

All looks very clean and tidy.  s:-D :-D s:-D  

Little surprised to see that there doesn't appear to be any cross bracing between the towers. I would have thought it would be needed more as the rear subby has undergone surgery.

How does the back end feel in terms of stiffness or is it too early to tell?

[tomaky]

Wonder if strut brace at the top would put more pressure on the bottom?

[1979scotte]

All looks very clean and tidy.  s:-D :-D s:-D  

Little surprised to see that there doesn't appear to be any cross bracing between the towers. I would have thought it would be needed more as the rear subby has undergone surgery.

How does the back end feel in terms of stiffness or is it too early to tell?

It's the one thing that puts me off the v6. A fare bit is cut out and nothing much is added.

[Topdownman]

The rear subframe has been trimmed a lot more than others I have seen. I guess the rear bracing and drip plate? have been removed because the new engine is much taller and there is no room for them to fit now.

Can I feel it? I would say yes I can, its a bit like the difference when you fit a mid brace only its possibly more noticeable and going the wrong way this time! I am not sure if there is a way of adding extra bracing on the rear, I would certainly consider adding some if anyone has any ideas?

[StuC]

Perhaps it's worth a convo with woodsport about it.

I didn't mean to pee on your parade btw Simon. Just saying what I see.

Do you know how much space there is between the engine and lid?
Just wondering if there is a custom box section solution in there somewhere.

[ChrisGB]

When I get a chance, I'll be looking at making something up to fit around the sides of the V6 to replace the upper cross brace. Have to say, the Rogue conversion with 2GR only takes a nibble from the lower cross member. As far as rigidity goes, is feels as solid as stock.

[tomaky]

My only thoughts were that looks like far more was removed than required, the only thing close to fouling looks like the exhaust but that would be easily redirected id imagine.

[Topdownman]

Perhaps it's worth a convo with woodsport about it.

I didn't mean to pee on your parade btw Simon. Just saying what I see.

Do you know how much space there is between the engine and lid?
Just wondering if there is a custom box section solution in there somewhere.

No problem!

Just popped outside with a torch and a rule just for you Stu, the gap from the plenum to the top of the bonnet measured through the louvres is about 3cm and that seems to be the closest you can measure easily. Not sure about the route from the towers to the bulkhead though.

[Mark A]

I had assumed the 2GR transplant was simple but look way more complicated. i would have thought a rear space frame would have been an obvious solution linking in the rear strut top mounts

[ChrisGB]

I had assumed the 2GR transplant was simple but look way more complicated. i would have thought a rear space frame would have been an obvious solution linking in the rear strut top mounts

Similar levels of modification to the 1mz really. Mine has a little nibble out of the cross member and a chassis leg, an inspection  box / hatch on the firewall, relocated and reinforced engine mounts, job done. It's a really elegant install for such a big engine in a small space.

[Anonymous]

Chris For interest and compare if the op dont mind it would be good to see a picture of a rogue 2gr install.

[Topdownman]

Chris For interest and compare if the op dont mind it would be good to see a picture of a rogue 2gr install.

I dont mind...

[ayresyboy]

My 2GR install by Woodsport

[cyclehead]

It's the one thing that puts me off the v6. A fare bit is cut out and nothing much is added.

Hoping the OP doesn't mind another picture... it's not too tough to add cross-section back to the subframe.  I trimmed up some .090 thick steel plate, and got this box welded onto the back of the crossmember.  There's some extra space before you run into the antisway bar.  

[maybeturbo]

There's a product, I forget what it was called. Learned about it at college years and years ago.
It's a foam used by race teams that is pumped into a cavity such as a chassis leg, once cured it provides support and ultimately less chassis flex. Obviously once done you can't ever weld the part in question. Something like that might be a good fix.

[Topdownman]

Well, a bit of "fun" this morning on the way to work, just overtaking on a dual carriageway when I lost all gears, luckily there was a very conveniently situated layby that I was able to coast into.

A quick look under the bonnet/boot? confirmed that I had lost the gear linkage nut. The AA man was able to supply a replacement one so back on the road quickly luckily!

PS Still no video yet!

[StuC]

Nothing worse than losing yours nuts mid-overtake!

I can't imagine you were best pleased at that.

[Mikeymead]

Must have been a bit of a bum clenching moment, I suppose any job that is that complex always runs the risk of something being missed, after all we're all only human....anoying nonetheless.

[tomaky]

Hmm id be very worried. lucky escape though!

[Topdownman]

The timing was very lucky as it was the only layby on that bit of road and it was in the right place for me.

It was a bit of a shock but I was hopeful it was only going to be something simple so I didnt panic!

[Topdownman]

Found a couple of pictures I took at Ding Day, I dont know whose car this is but his rear brace still fits.





He also still has his drip tray too.

[tomaky]

Cross member does  look like its retained alot more metal aswell. Think its Jez car half green half silver.

[MR TWO]

Yes the green engine pictured is mine (it's probably the only green engined roadster in the world lol)

Topdownman I will look and photograph my subframe when it stops raining to give you a comparison.

[Topdownman]

Good to see V6s can still be green!