Mini supercharger on 1zz

Essex2Visuvesi · June 30, 2016, 17:05

Quote from: "Carolyn"
Quote from: "lamcote"XP!!!!

Really. All my mechanic friends run diagnostics and flashing on XP

Many of the connectivity issues are down to the Serial-USB convertors people try to use. Most of them don't work too well causing communication issues & "lag" in the data stream

Shout if you need an XP laptop with a true 9 pin serial port. I have an old dell sitting here specifically for this reason
Its running an SSD too so its quite lively s:twisted: :twisted: s:twisted:

Essex2Visuvesi · June 30, 2016, 17:10

Oh and its payday today so bought myself a supercharger s:D

s:D

Going to design and make up some outlet flanges for the outlet and pass them onto Carolyn with the 120mm pulley, should make fabrication easier

lamcote · June 30, 2016, 17:15

You absolute star

Carolyn: I hope your friends don't go on the internet with their XP machines...

Essex2Visuvesi · June 30, 2016, 17:19

Quote from: "lamcote"You absolute star

No Problem.
I might be able to offer up a second one if I can find another PSU pack

Carolyn · June 30, 2016, 17:22

Quote from: "lamcote"You absolute star

Carolyn: I hope your friends don't go on the internet with their XP machines...

One NEVER goes on the internet with one's garage computer.

lamcote · June 30, 2016, 17:28

Oh, I see.

Essex2Visuvesi · June 30, 2016, 17:30

Quote from: "Carolyn"
Quote from: "lamcote"You absolute star

Carolyn: I hope your friends don't go on the internet with their XP machines...

One NEVER goes on the internet with one's garage computer.

shnazzle · June 30, 2016, 17:32

I know. That's why I'm borrowing an XP laptop today s:)

s:) The software was built for Win98. Win 2000 at a push,which is why it works on XP

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Carolyn · June 30, 2016, 17:35

Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"Oh and its payday today so bought myself a supercharger s:D s:D

Going to design and make up some outlet flanges for the outlet and pass them onto Carolyn with the 120mm pulley, should make fabrication easier

That is very kind of you. I'm struggling to remove the pulley without buying a special puller, as I'd rather not use heat on it. Probably will end up getting the special puller! (Or persuading David to make one...

With you on board, and therefore a parallel project in progress, I think it might be good for me to take a more of a back seat for now. I've been finding this a bit stressful, to be honest. We will work on the subframe and follow on on the rest of it. I'm not quitting, but I am slowing it down for my part.

Essex2Visuvesi · June 30, 2016, 17:44

The challenge is to pull it off without bending it.
The correct tool spreads the load around the pulley... shouldn't be too hard to "Macgyver" something

Carolyn · June 30, 2016, 17:50

You're right we'll have a go over the weekend.

lamcote · June 30, 2016, 17:51

There's absolutely no rush Carolyn, don't get stressed whatever you do. I know I keep firing stuff around on here but I'm in no hurry whatsoever. Looking forward to seeing the results of the subframe solution as and when it arrives.
Thanks again for starting this all off, we'll get there in time.

shnazzle · June 30, 2016, 18:36

Other laptop ended up being Win7 as well. And it's a piece of sh1t and I want to toss it out the window.
I need to just buy a cable from GiffTech with software, which works on Win7.
Sick of this. I'm not trying anymore using DIY stuff

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Carolyn · June 30, 2016, 19:22

I have a little netbook on XP -but it's lent out at the moment...

On another note, I need to photograph the mounting brackets so you don't have to re-invent them. There's also provision for an extra idler wheel to enable the belt to clear the bottom of the tensioner spring unit. We're making ours using a skateboard wheel - don't laugh, they're tough. Got a couple of spares. This will especially be needed with a 120 mm pulley.

Carolyn · June 30, 2016, 19:27

These guys have tons of cheap netbooks on XP.

m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acer-Aspire-O ... Swc1FXcU8I m

shnazzle · June 30, 2016, 20:22

I'm going to have to borrow. I'm going to check again as I had someone lined up to lend me a laptop

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Essex2Visuvesi · June 30, 2016, 21:13

Quote from: "shnazzle"I'm going to have to borrow. I'm going to check again as I had someone lined up to lend me a laptop

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If not give a shout and you're welcome to have a loan of mine

shnazzle · June 30, 2016, 22:33

Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"
Quote from: "shnazzle"I'm going to have to borrow. I'm going to check again as I had someone lined up to lend me a laptop

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If not give a shout and you're welcome to have a loan of mine

Cool thanks. Will do

Wabbitkilla · July 1, 2016, 11:49

Once upon a time......

I had a netbook on Win7, I bought Gifftech cable and software......

And it worked without trouble.
Must have taken all of 15 minutes to order, install and get working.

Then i tried it on a full size laptop running Windows7 ............ it worked.

I haven't tried it on Win10 64bit yet.

The moral of this fairy tale?
Why bother f---ing about when there's something available that's reasonably priced?

shnazzle · July 1, 2016, 11:51

Quote from: "Wabbitkilla"Once upon a time......

I had a netbook on Win7, I bought Gifftech cable and software......

And it worked without trouble.
Must have taken all of 15 minutes to order, install and get working.

Then i tried it on a full size laptop running Windows7 ............ it worked.

I haven't tried it on Win10 64bit yet.

The moral of this fairy tale?
Why bother f---ing about when there's something available that's reasonably priced?

Exactly.
Good to know that it works on a "normal" laptop as well.
DEfinitely ordering this then. It'll have to wait a month though

lamcote · July 2, 2016, 09:06

Shnazzle, is it possible to connect the Emanage ECU to the car and set it up with a neutral map which applies no changes at all to the fuel and ignition timing? Could we then log the settings the car is running on in that state? If so, this would allow us to determine what the standard ECU's fuel/ignition maps are.

shnazzle · July 3, 2016, 07:37

Yup you can just zero all the cells, in which case it just runs without any adjustments. Then monitor. Although, as I said, I don't know exactly what kind of monitoring it offers

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lamcote · July 3, 2016, 08:36

That could be helpful. Does the Blue have a lot less logging capability than the Ultimate?

shnazzle · July 3, 2016, 08:58

Quote from: "lamcote"That could be helpful. Does the Blue have a lot less logging capability than the Ultimate?

Not sure. I suspect you can log everything we need to log. The blue can adjust timing and pulses so surely it has to see what the current values are to do so.
So I assume we can log anything of any relevance. Air flow, timing, fueling... Pressure if a gauge is connected...

lamcote · July 3, 2016, 11:52

Just as an update, I have looked up the option of variable/higher fuel pressure as mentioned by Chris earlier. As far as I can see, with our returnless fuel system, implementing higher/variable fuel pressure would seem to cost in the region of £300. This is a significant chunk of the cost of just buying a piggyback ECU, be more complex to fit and have less flexibility. So, unless anyone can point us to a simple and cheap version, I don't see this as a viable option.

As another thought regarding my ignition timing worry. If we accept that the assumption about needing 1-2deg of ignition retard/psi of boost is correct. At our projected max boost of c.5psi we will need up to c.10deg of retard. If we use super unleaded fuel for our test runs, that might buy us (at least?) that much timing advance, so it's just possible that would solve the ignition timing issue....??