Mini supercharger on 1zz

[The Other Stu]

thank you all for the input,
Jon:  the cable needed is USB to female serial port with a convertor built in.
Patrick:  Thanks I'll look up Gifftec
Stu:  Tried that cable both ways round.  The active light lights up for about a minute and goes out.  The computer isn't seeing the device.

That's bizarre. It's not what it was doing yesterday - it was trying to install the driver.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like one part a standard usb to serial converter. If so that must be plugged in without anything connected on the serial end so it can register on the pc as a serial port. Once that done connect the rest and it should work. Otherwise the pc trys looking for drivers to connect to the emange and all will go wrong.

[Carolyn]

HI Carolyn,
I can bring my emanage setup with me on sunday if you wanted to try the cables that come with mine?

Cheers,

John

thank you.  Best plan yet

Richard:  Tried your suggestion.  No go.

[jvanzyl]

Cool no worries... will bring everything... would be good to see how it's all supposed to plug in as it's one the next things I have on my todo list!

[Carolyn]

Good job Jonbil is coming, or it will be the blind leading the blind... Jon is a bit of a wiz on this computing stuff, so is Stu.

We should probably throw it all at them and stand well back.

[jonbill]

Good job Jonbil is coming, or it will be the blind leading the blind... Jon is a bit of a wiz on this computing stuff, so is Stu.

We should probably throw it all at them and stand well back.

I think we've been stitched up!

[jonbill]

Jon:  the cable needed is USB to female serial port with a convertor built

Like this one?  m https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222267094188 m

[jonbill]

A couple of things maybe worth looking at.
With the cable plugged in,
In device manager, check the device has no error or warning icons.
This pic has a usb to serial device correctly installed and another device (ess game port) that isn't working.



because the ESS game port has a driver configured, I can unplug it and plug it in again as many times as I like, but it won't reinstall the driver or make it work.
You can sometimes get into this state if you haven't got the proper driver for the thing you installed.
The answer is to right-click-> uninstall it and then start again with the right driver.

[Carolyn]

Jon:  the cable needed is USB to female serial port with a convertor built

Like this one?  m https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222267094188 m

I have one of those in transit.  I will try it and apply your science if it doesn't play nice.

[jonbill]

The next thing to check is which com port the USB device is configured as. You can see in the earlier pic that mine is configured as "COM1".
If your PC has a real serial port enabled, it's most likely that it is COM1, and the USB port is COM2 or maybe even COM3.
 Some PC applications are written to assume the device they are working with is COM1. If the emanage software is such a one, you'll need to make your USB com port COM1. you should be able to do this with the advanced properties in device manager. (right-click->properties->advanced).
Also, it's possible that the emanage or the USB serial converter  needs a specific bit rate in the com port properties.

[jonbill]

I've been reading the internet:  m http://www.migee.com/wp-content/uploads ... manual.pdf m
It seems that there are options (on the options menu!) in the emanage software to configure the port settings, so I feel confident that we can make this work.

[Essex2Visuvesi]

I've been reading the internet:  m http://www.migee.com/wp-content/uploads ... manual.pdf m
It seems that there are options (on the options menu!) in the emanage software to configure the port settings, so I feel confident that we can make this work.

Failing that there is always the JC method:-

[Carolyn]

Well, after ten minutes, I found the device manager!!!!!!!!!
Jon:  Tell you what:  You sort this for me and you're on for workshop access and machine shop services as needed.

[shnazzle]

I've been at that approach for months now and I have had no luck. Installed drivers, uninstalled drivers, turn cable around, different laptops, different versions of Windows, different versions of emanage software...

[Carolyn]

Well, perhaps, with a team effort we can get this one pinned down .  That will be a very useful resource for the club in future.

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Has anyone looked at this one?
 m http://redleader36.com/emanage/DIY%20Su ... 20V1.1.pdf m
The cable is about 7 quid on evilbay
 m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-CA-42-D ... 2238898635 m

[Carolyn]

I have one cable that will make the emanage go 'active'.  There's another on the way which should also accomplish that,at least.  I did find the com port selection in the emanage software.  AND I found the one that works for the USB/USB adaptor lead.
Now it seems to be an issue with the correct driver, other drivers causing problems and general software wizardry.  It also seems that the driver has to be compatible with a particular version of the emanage software (of which I have plethora).
At this juncture my expertise fails.

[The Other Stu]

I should have taken that from you and brought it back on Sunday   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  

I'm a radio geek and I have to play with virtual and serial ports and icky drivers all the time. Quite often, the problem is caused with fake chipsets and so on.
I'm a whiz with them (although they can take hours to diagnose).

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Good news
I have managed to locate a genuine cable from an acquaintance in Finland.
He is sending it over to me this week.  I'll send it on to Carolyn on the proviso that it is returned to me by 20th December. As I promised to bring it back when I go to Finland at Christmas
At least with a genuine cable we can rule out one variable

[shnazzle]

Excellent. I'd be very interested in if that solves the problem.

[shnazzle]

Also... SE7EN motorsport do a 1zz supercharger kit now. A whopping 4700. But it is a rotrex. Oil and intercooler, apexi pfc+commander, mapping, injectors, intake and plumbing.

[jvanzyl]

Just a thought here...Se7en also appear to offer a " 4 cylinder rebuild service"  m http://www.se7enmotorsports.co.uk/store ... ur%29.html m  for £875... I have no idea what that entails, but for those of us with older engines it might be worth noting prior to replicating Carolyns efforts with the supercharger kit!

[shnazzle]

Well that goes without saying. You can't put forced induction on a knackered block.
Might as well buy a non-runner and sit in it on the drive making brum brum noises

[Carolyn]

That price is for 'labour'.  If I were doing that service I'd have to add pistons rings gaskets, timing gear, bearings and possibly valves and springs (all oem).  Why all that?  I wouldn't put a warranty on anything less.
Anyway.  
Gary, please don't request that cable until we have got together this weekend and had a go at sorting things, unless you're happy with the extra effort. We would need the access to the correct driver and computer set-up.  I don't think it's so much a cable issue as a driver and computer set-up issue.
The one you sent with the kit is trying to work.  It's more me not getting the computer to play nice.

[stewart@boro]

Also... SE7EN motorsport do a 1zz supercharger kit now. A whopping 4700. But it is a rotrex. Oil and intercooler, apexi pfc+commander, mapping, injectors, intake and plumbing.

That was meant to be my little secret  s:) s:)