Mini supercharger on 1zz

[jvanzyl]

Oh yes definitely.

Have we just found the primary "issue" here   s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

[Carolyn]

Could well be.  I'll put 12v to it tomorrow and try it again....

[jonbill]

Well yes  :-) :-) :-)  
I guess being usb connected might tempt you to think it can be powered by usb.
But perhaps there's a clue to a couple of things in that the emanage has a usb-a connector. Usb-a is for master/host devices which provide power rather than receive (like a pc). Also explains why Patrick needed a cross over cable - the pc also is a host/master from the serial protocol perspective.
All sorted then  s:) s:)

[Carolyn]

we'll see.....

[jvanzyl]

Hey - I found the below site which seems to be quite comprehensive in terms of the eManage blue and the exact pin layouts etc:
 m http://wilbo666.pbworks.com/w/page/4648 ... ort%20Tool m

PLUS it has the 1.11 download files!

[Carolyn]

I'm in.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shnazzle]

Excellent. Good week for emanage on mr2roc haha

Now to zero everything out, get the wideband connected and finish up the hardware  s:) s:)  
Then change fueling

[Carolyn]

It's mapped for boost with progressive ignition retard...  
Doubtless it's for a turbo, but it should suffice for firing up with some degree of engine safety...

[shnazzle]

It's mapped for boost with progressive ignition retard...  
Doubtless it's for a turbo, but it should suffice for firing up with some degree of engine safety...

Is "should" where you want to be?  s:) s:)

I won't profess to know much about this area but, are there some fail-safe basic principles that can be applied to the map once adding the SC?

I'm assuming the most important thing is adding fuel in order to not run dangerously lean. Or has that base been covered?

[jvanzyl]

I'm in.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOORAY!!!  s:-D :-D s:-D  Wel done Carolyn!

BTW I have the support tool running on a windows 10 tablet now... Maybe on the weekend I'll see if it's a viable way of interacting with the blue..

[shnazzle]

I'm in.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOORAY!!!  s:-D :-D s:-D  Wel done Carolyn!

BTW I have the support tool running on a windows 10 tablet now... Maybe on the weekend I'll see if it's a viable way of interacting with the blue..

Depends on the chipset uses in the converter.
If its a Prolific then Win 10 is not supported on the pl-2303hxa chipset.

[Carolyn]

It's mapped for boost with progressive ignition retard...  
Doubtless it's for a turbo, but it should suffice for firing up with some degree of engine safety...

Is "should" where you want to be?  s:) s:)

I won't profess to know much about this area but, are there some fail-safe basic principles that can be applied to the map once adding the SC?

I'm assuming the most important thing is adding fuel in order to not run dangerously lean. Or has that base been covered?

Looking at the fueling map, that base is covered, though probably not ideal for a different boost curve.

I've still got quite a bit of work to do to get to actually running her up (other than idle).  Exhaust has to be finished and the wiring-in of the ecu is yet to be done.  Spent a while yesterday labeling wires.  Going to double check that today, then solder in all the connectors...

I've got a car electronics whizz nearby, so I shall have him peruse...

[Essex2Visuvesi]

It's mapped for boost with progressive ignition retard...  
Doubtless it's for a turbo, but it should suffice for firing up with some degree of engine safety...

Dont forget to back that one up for me  s:) s:)

[Carolyn]

will do, just as soon as I figure out how to do that....

[Carolyn]

Backed up.  I'll get a mem stick and send it.

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Thanks  s:) s:)
For info the map Carolyn has is for the PE turbo kit. the emb is from the kit I picked up on eBay
I have not seen the map it so cannot comment on its suitability for purpose.

[shnazzle]

There are a few more maps available somewhere on here. I downloaded them a while back. Mix of n/a and turbo maps

[Essex2Visuvesi]

They're in the resources section
Would post a link but I'm on the iPhone and it's a faff

[Carolyn]

Thanks  s:) s:)
For info the map Carolyn has is for the PE turbo kit. the emb is from the kit I picked up on eBay
I have not seen the map it so cannot comment on its suitability for purpose.

Do you happen to know if the map is for MAF before turbo?

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Thanks  s:) s:)
For info the map Carolyn has is for the PE turbo kit. the emb is from the kit I picked up on eBay
I have not seen the map it so cannot comment on its suitability for purpose.

Do you happen to know if the map is for MAF before turbo?

That I can help you with!
MAF is before the turbo:-

Airfilter
MAF
Pipe
Turbo
Pipe
Throttlebody
Engine

Also the kit came with no form of charge cooling if that's any consequence?

[Carolyn]

That's  my set-up ( not turbo, of course).  It will need tweaking but it will be a decent starting point.  2zz injectors?

[Carolyn]

That's  my set-up ( not turbo, of course).  It will need tweaking but it will be a decent starting point.  2zz injectors?

With such low boost, based on fairly extensive research, charge cooling is not essential.  The sequence of components is exactly as I have it. I know my boost will come in earlier, but otherwise, it's got to be close.  
Still need to define injector size.

[shnazzle]

Here's one thing that I mentioned when we first started.
I'm a little concerned that on the EMB you can't adjust injector lag time.

So, just be aware that if idling is rough as f00k when you get it going, it may be this. Only hope may be using the Anti-stall settings to fix idle.

[Carolyn]

Bridge cross we shall, when at it we arrive.

[Essex2Visuvesi]

That's  my set-up ( not turbo, of course).  It will need tweaking but it will be a decent starting point.  2zz injectors?

Yes I think so, there was some injectors with the kit, Green ones from memory if thats any help?
I'll check tonight