New head unit

Started by Standard, April 2, 2017, 18:08

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Mrs Standard has got me an early birthday present (Pioneer FH-X730BT) and has said will get my some new speakers too.

Firstly, I assume it will fit in the old space on my PFL without issues?

What wiring adapter will I need for it to work?

Currently, I have only one of original speaker working (passenger door) what's likely to be causing this?

JoeCool

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Yes, it will fit no problem. I made a video for access to the stereo, it's a bit involved.

[youtube:151ic48p]GAnN7CDIB7o[/youtube:151ic48p]

Re unworking speaker - anything really. Could be blown mosses in the head unit, bad connection in the wiring, broken wiring in the door hinge or door, or simply an old knackered speaker. Send some voltage up the wires and test using a multimeter if you intend on using it, to check it's OK. It should be, it rarely fails. My bet is on clapped out speaker. Especially in convertibles they get wet and seize up.
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Sounds like I'm taking the pee but it's not dialled over to one side on the balance is it? My lad did it on a car of mine when he was younger and I chased all sorts of things before working it out!


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Quote from: "JoeCool"Yes, it will fit no problem. I made a video for access to the stereo, it's a bit involved.

[youtube:1ws5n1gh]GAnN7CDIB7o[/youtube:1ws5n1gh]

Re unworking speaker - anything really. Could be blown mosses in the head unit, bad connection in the wiring, broken wiring in the door hinge or door, or simply an old knackered speaker. Send some voltage up the wires and test using a multimeter if you intend on using it, to check it's OK. It should be, it rarely fails. My bet is on clapped out speaker. Especially in convertibles they get wet and seize up.
I watched your vijayo Joe, like your style, I swapped head units yesterday without needing to remove the HVAC panel but I'm missing the surround from mine, I'm assuming it got damaged or sold with a previous owner, so maybe that was why?
I'm going to have to look out for some kind of trim for it though as it's a bit hideous without [emoji53]


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Standard

#4
Cheers, that should help no end.

One of the bulbs has gone behind the heater controls, I assume that it would be a good time to replace them?



What are the correct bulbs and where do I get them?

Ulphie

#5
Hi Standard I am thinking of getting the very same unit can I ask what wiring adapter did you use in the end?
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Standard

#6
I've not fitted it yet!

I'm not sure where you where thinking of buying it from but I got mine from Halfords for £100 (in store clearance).

Quote from: "Standard"What are the correct bulbs and where do I get them?

Anyone?

Ulphie

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Its a tad more so I better search around  good  luck with the fit
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Standard

#8
When I have the relevant wiring bits I'll let you know.

Standard

#9
It was my birthday yesterday so the Mrs gave me another present. I ordered the ISO myself about a week ago (fingers crossed it's the right one).


s12vea

#10
ISO looks correct, nice little set up
Another one won't hurt  .....

Standard

#11
The ISO was only £3 delivered. Which reminds me I need to Ulphie a link.

I'm gonna try and get it installed this weekend... depends if I can be patient enough to get a cheap amp. Speaking of which, any recommendations? I'm doing this on a budget.

Essex2Visuvesi

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Quote from: "Standard"Cheers, that should help no end.

One of the bulbs has gone behind the heater controls, I assume that it would be a good time to replace them?



What are the correct bulbs and where do I get them?

Did you ever get a response to this?
Sorry a bit off topic

Standard

#13
Quote from: "Essex2Visuvesi"
Quote from: "Standard"Cheers, that should help no end.

One of the bulbs has gone behind the heater controls, I assume that it would be a good time to replace them?



What are the correct bulbs and where do I get them?

Did you ever get a response to this?
Sorry a bit off topic

I think i read on another thread that they are available mr Toyota dealerships for around £5 each.   s:shock: :shock: s:shock:

Essex2Visuvesi

#14
When I get to mine I'll see if I can find an LED Alternative

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Ok, somebody explain the need for the wiring adapter for me please? Preferably in daylight hours as I can't find anything related on t'internet. My 2 had an aftermarket head unit already and when I replaced that I didn't need any other cables so am I to assume they're already there? Or if I should want to go back to a similar double DIN to this one will I need to change the cables that connect my current, single unit? Please and thank you...


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s12vea

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Your new head unit will just plug into the ISO. Nice simple swap
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Quote from: "s12vea"Your new head unit will just plug into the ISO. Nice simple swap
Cheers, I assumed that would be the case, the only time I've ever had to get an extra lead for a stereo was to connect steering wheel controls. I guess I've just been lucky [emoji2]


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Right then, after originally thinking I had the wrong ISO connector (I was being a moron) I have wired it up it to see how it goes...

Good news! It lights up like a Christmas tree and I immediately discovered the issues with poor radio reception and drivers door speaker were being caused by the old head unit.

Bad news! I can't get the bloody cage to sit right and feels far from solid. And unless I'm being particularly thick, what are you meant to do with the pokey out bits in the picture? Isn't it meant to fit flush with the dash and plastic trim?   s:? :? s:?  


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Quote from: "Standard"Right then, after originally thinking I had the wrong ISO connector (I was being a moron) I have wired it up it to see how it goes...

Good news! It lights up like a Christmas tree and I immediately discovered the issues with poor radio reception and drivers door speaker were being caused by the old head unit.

Bad news! I can't get the bloody cage to sit right and feels far from solid. And unless I'm being particularly thick, what are you meant to do with the pokey out bits in the picture? Isn't it meant to fit flush with the dash and plastic trim?   s:? :? s:?  

Those black bits are different to mine but assuming they fit in a similar fashion, ditch the cage, screw the black bits directly to the head unit (it'll say somewhere in the instructions the length of screws to use) then refit to the car uprights. You might have to offer it all up first to get the right combination of holes but should get it better than the current set up!


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But the prong things are part of the plates that screw in...

I was losing light so I'll have another look tomorrow.

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Yeah, didn't notice the prong bit before, mine are shiny steel, flat plates but I'm also missing the facia/surround trim so assumed it was the mount for that?


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#22
Could be.

I'm tempted to leave it as it is until Saturday hope that someone can give me a hand but at the same time I want to do it myself to prove I'm not totally inept.

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Quote from: "Standard"Could be.

I'm tempted to leave it as it is until Saturday hope that someone can give me a hand but at the same time I want to do it myself to prove I'm not totally inept.
I don't think anyone would think that, a bit of good natured banter maybe but I'd hope nobody was that elitist on here. I think half the problem is the number of owners these cars have already had, hardly any are standard when you get them so you're more often dealing with someone else's pre fiddling!


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I had similar issues when fitting a single din unit a couple of weeks back. I found the parts from a facelift model will be your friend. The sticky outy prongs attach to the surround from the PFL sony unit

The facelift brackets will allow you to mount the new unit level with the cupholder/ashtray assembly. Facelift surround is also needed to make it look stock

Parts are available at a dealer but expensive - I priced them up last week at a little shy of £70 - managed to get used from a breaker for a LOT less

Brackets from a facelift -  m http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/00-05-TOYOTA- ... Sw42JZCQGT m  - I know it's a US listing but it gives an idea what to look for
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