E153 conversion kit

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paul.mcgrath

#25
June 26, 2017, 15:58 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Hi all any further thoughts on if my turbo setup would work with the 2zz swap and is just a manifold change and new map ??
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
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shnazzle

#26
June 26, 2017, 16:41 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
And to make sure the ecu/harness you choose is compatible. Nerds to support lift control instead of just vvti
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paul.mcgrath

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June 26, 2017, 16:58 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Apexi engine management system I've got installed
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

ChrisGB

#28
June 26, 2017, 23:12 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "paul.mcgrath"Hi all any further thoughts on if my turbo setup would work with the 2zz swap and is just a manifold change and new map ??

I think a T25 derivative may struggle to feed enough air into the engine at high revs.
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paul.mcgrath

#29
June 27, 2017, 08:19 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
that's what was said on here last year with my setup

I'm wondering what is possible bhp wise with my turbo and the 1zz, 270bhp is what Whiffbitz said it could make when they fitted it ......

I see leethesparky is running 12psi with my setup plus charge cooler don't think I'm running anywhere near that

more I look at this its built 1zz with stronger gears if I wanted reliability and around 300bhp , in my very limited mechanical knowledge that is ..........!!
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

MR TWO

#30
June 27, 2017, 10:11 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "paul.mcgrath"more I look at this its built 1zz with stronger gears if I wanted reliability and around 300bhp , in my very limited mechanical knowledge that is ..........!!
I don't think you will find that reliability and engine  upgrade/ conversion/exchange/ turbo / supercharge typically feature in the same conversation especially once you are talking plus 220/ 240bhp.

It seems to me you spend a fortune getting the additional power.  
You spend another fortune on upgrading the car to handle well  with the additional power.
You then spend an additional fortune on repairing/ maintaining / replacing everything the power breaks.
Finally you spend a further fortune upgrading the cosmetics to compliment the additional power.

At the end you have the fortune to own a pretty fast, good looking, go kartesque car. Ask me how I know!
1MZFE, Emerald ECU, LSD, BC coilovers, custom middle & front under brace, F / R strut brace. Slotted discs & yellow pads, Blue flame exhaust.
Carrera leather seats, Davids bars, Focal subwoofer & voce speakers & bling !
TRD Stage 2 F & R spoilers,  Haltezza bonnet, C1 side vents, JDL rear panel

paul.mcgrath

#31
June 27, 2017, 14:07 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I hear you loud and clear as I've just spent another large pile of cash on monocraft kit ,coilovers new wheels,  adapters etc etc .....
But its all good fun .........
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
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MR TWO

#32
June 27, 2017, 14:26 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "paul.mcgrath"I hear you loud and clear as I've just spent another large pile of cash on monocraft kit ,coilovers new wheels,  adapters etc etc .....
But its all good fun .........
It definitely is! My Ducati will start to morph once the summer ends.  Custom is cool in my book.
1MZFE, Emerald ECU, LSD, BC coilovers, custom middle & front under brace, F / R strut brace. Slotted discs & yellow pads, Blue flame exhaust.
Carrera leather seats, Davids bars, Focal subwoofer & voce speakers & bling !
TRD Stage 2 F & R spoilers,  Haltezza bonnet, C1 side vents, JDL rear panel

paul.mcgrath

#33
June 27, 2017, 16:15 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Just spoke to woodsport about conversions , I see you have the 1mz whats your opinion on the v6 ?
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

MR TWO

#34
June 28, 2017, 10:06 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
For me and my driving style the 1MZ is really perfect. I wanted a powerful bulletproof gokart. that I can drive every day.  The car is now much faster than standard, but its not so ballistically fast to force you to feel on the edge, all the time. I can overtake effortlessly without having to down change, though running through country lanes in third is a blast on occasion! The sound of the V6 is an extra bonus.

The extra weight of the engine 1MZFE 153kgs / 337lbs (with S54 gearbox 54kg) / 118lbs compares to 1ZZ 103kgs 225/lbs & 2ZZ 115kgs / 254lbs so overall you are looking at an extra 38kgs or 6 stones. I have modified suspension, but I have never really noticed any difference in the weight distribution when driving compared to a standard 1zz. This is probably due to the weight being so low off the ground. I've spoken to others with this conversion an they all say the same.

The fuel consumption is not great at 25/28mpg. I didn't do this for the fuel economy, but I would have liked 32....

I had problems with the gear selector mechanism, but I had it rebuilt / redesigned by Robbie in Liverpool for a little more than a hundred pounds.  Otherwise  I've replaced the clutch and had a yearly service & MOT in three plus years. For a modified engine swap this is very good imo.

Upgrading/ tuning a 1ZZ doesn't give the extra power I was looking for and its expensive relative to the gains. A turbo 1zz is similar cost and can be faster but often less reliable. A 2zz is slower, might be cheaper to do but I didn't want a high rev/ narrow powerband car. Still each to their own.  

I hope this gives you another view to consider.
1MZFE, Emerald ECU, LSD, BC coilovers, custom middle & front under brace, F / R strut brace. Slotted discs & yellow pads, Blue flame exhaust.
Carrera leather seats, Davids bars, Focal subwoofer & voce speakers & bling !
TRD Stage 2 F & R spoilers,  Haltezza bonnet, C1 side vents, JDL rear panel

maybeturbo

#35
June 28, 2017, 23:35 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The manifold I sourced for the turbo kit I put together (before a good turbo car came up for sale) has the bolt holes for both 1zz and 2zz. I don't know if it turns into a top mount turbo on a 2zz though. It's cast and got a t3 flange.

paul.mcgrath

#36
June 29, 2017, 08:08 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
mind made up , spoke to Patrick yesterday , forged 1zz it is ......!!

any info on forged parts this side of the pond would be much appreciated ??

trying to save a few quid on tax from MWR by buying here if poss
2000 MRS Blue , 2004 facelift engine , Whifbitz Turbo conversion 176bhp 190lbft, hardtop ,Meister coilovers, R8 18&19" wheels, Matt brace
facelift headlights , Monocraft bodykit

mr2turboguy

#37
October 15, 2018, 14:53
I was just wondering what happened to your car after you forged the internals? Did it blow up or are you still boosting around?
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