Chris Harris on mx-engineinwrongplace

Started by Petrus, March 4, 2019, 12:12

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Petrus

Usually I think Chris Harris in well on the ball with cars.
He álso suffers from the motoring journalist syndrom of revering high end cars too much everything to be useful on the public roads.
Imo he illustrates it to ´prefection´ in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36whvegFIqg

Now I do agree wih the image issue but that is a pérsonal problem and does not make the car any the worse.
Anyway; a perspective I would like to point out is from 07.00. Him mentioning narrower, twistier roads. Imagine it narrower and twistier still, add real mountains, now shine a souther sun over it and...  :D  Ány lightweight roadster will do. From Fiat Barchetta to, dare I say.... mx-engineinwrongplace .

Imo Harris should not judge all by hypercar standards which are only worth anything on the Nurburgring; not even on the highlands roads he likes to broadslide Ferraris on. Has anyone noticed how carefully the rest of traffic is cut out of shots? The ´broad´ in broadslide is a pita2 in the real world where there áre other cars coming around blind corners.

Ok, that was my personal opinion. Thanks for reading; feeling better now  ;)

p.s. and I díd actually own a 205 GTi 115 ps.

cptspaulding

I did see a previous video where he was sat in an owner's club member's car as the owner was enthusing about it.

CH listened for a bit then asked him why he didn't buy a MR2.  ;D
Former owner 2003, 2zz conversion.

1979scotte

@Petrus

I don't really disagree with you but surely we would all like a Mclaren or a Ferrari in the garage?
Let's not forget Porsche and Lotus some of the best sports cars ever built.
A cayman gt4 or exige V6 really float my boat.
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Petrus

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Quote from: 1979scotte on March  4, 2019, 13:55
@Petrus

I don't really disagree with you but surely we would all like a Mclaren or a Ferrari in the garage?
Let's not forget Porsche and Lotus some of the best sports cars ever built.
A cayman gt4 or exige V6 really float my boat.

Well, no actually.
I admitthat I have dróóled over the FF but ... I could only drive it on the major roads here and that is if I would have our drive widened.

I do not disagree with Porsche and Lotus building some great sports cars but not where I live on the roads I drive on, not the modern ones.
I do not disagree with the Boxter range being an absolutely brilliant offering but they are simply too much car out here.
McLaren and Ferrari? One word out here ´useless´.
Remeber I am nót talking track use but real word mountain roads also open to geriatic Juan in his Seat 600 and his son JoséMaria on a tractor, not to mention Brit pensioners with the steering wheel on the wrong side for the roads.

Point is that you never see those car journalist driving those moder ´sports´cars in the real world where most of us live and drive.
Those supercars are by and large pointless other than for making an ostentatious point.
And, as a perspective, even théy admit to the GT86 being the most driver fun modern car. Again nobody will deny that the Boxter/Cayman series is the best, but that is not the point; their qualities are also mostly useless.

Again; I would not want a McLaren or Ferrari in my garage. I´d choose an old Maserati; a bare metal restored 224 bi-turbo :-)
I actually almost bought one  :P

Anyway, bottom line is that the mx-engineinwrongplace  is, in any guise, a practical real world roadster  which should not be judged against the on the public roads useless qualities of high end ´sports´cars.
I drove several MXs before deciding on the MR2. Lóve my MR2 and I choose for the package, but do not deny the MX is a step ahead in practicallity.

P.s. did the MX  owner answer the MR2 question?

p.p.s. about Chris feeling a bit of a knob in the MX. I know how much of knob Í would feel in a modern supercar out here. I vividly remeber a Ferrari navigating the noarrow roundbaouts and speed bumps on the coastal road, holding up an old moped ´car´....

Carolyn

My view:

'Super cars' are vulgar expressions of conspicuous consumption.

They are almost un-usable, environmentally irresponsible and utterly pointless.

Top gear used to be a decent comedy show with cars.  Now it is a showcase for those who can't have, to drool over that which they absolutely do not need.  It's repetitive sideways tyre shredding pointlessness.

Can't stand the show, or its presenters.

Time for something completely different.


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Petrus

Quote from: Carolyn on March  4, 2019, 15:33
My view:

'Super cars' are vulgar expressions of conspicuous consumption.

They are almost un-usable, environmentally irresponsible and utterly pointless.

Succinctly well put.


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Top gear used to be a decent comedy show with cars.  Now it is a showcase for those who can't have, to drool over that which they absolutely do not need.  It's repetitive sideways tyre shredding pointlessness.

Can't stand the show, or its presenters.

Time for something completely different.

I stopped watching Top Gear yéars ago when the silly intermezzos became the key feature. The Middle East trip with three roadster p.e. could have been most enjoyable with less of the way too silly stuff.



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