Any ideas what manifold this is?

Started by tricky1138, February 19, 2020, 11:17

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tricky1138

I've finally got round to fitting my manifold I bought ages ago. I was sure it was a Toyosports one, but after digging it out from the back of my garage I'm sure its not.

Any ideas what it is, or is it just a generic ebay one?

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delhusband

The 2nd hand Toyosport I had (briefly) had a plate with a chequered flag logo and "toyosport" stamped on it
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tricky1138

Quote from: delhusband on February 19, 2020, 11:34The 2nd hand Toyosport I had (briefly) had a plate with a chequered flag logo and "toyosport" stamped on it

Yeah, I was positive mine had that. Maybe I've just seen it on others and wrongly presumed!
2004 FL, Black, Matt Brace, Team Dynamics Monza R, Tein Springs, TTE Exhaust, heated black leather seats, black leather armrest,  Zunsport grills, Midship front badge,  TRD spoiler, Halo DRLs with LED fogs, large clear wind defector, Krissg kick panels,  small mongos.

househead

Quote from: tricky1138 on February 19, 2020, 11:44
Quote from: delhusband on February 19, 2020, 11:34The 2nd hand Toyosport I had (briefly) had a plate with a chequered flag logo and "toyosport" stamped on it

Yeah, I was positive mine had that. Maybe I've just seen it on others and wrongly presumed!

My Toyosports bought off ebay in July last year has the flag logo and Toyosport stamped on it.

That one doesn't look like my Toyosport, that's all I can say. Mine doesn't have any supports on the midpipe end or any mounting points for the heatshield.
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jvanzyl

Take a metal ruler to the head plate- if it's straight it's a good one, if not it's a JHM (I think)

wotugonado

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It looks very much like the one I had from America, better than the toyosports, the heat shield brackets never lined up very well though so that would be the tell.

Edit
Rumour had it, it was a che top speed one
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The Hamish/Garage 59 one I had had the same square section bar welded as the heat shield mounts with different sized threads tapped in them.
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Beachbum957

It looks like a typical eBay manifold, but the problem is there have been many different manufacturers with differing quality and features.  Some were mild steel, while most are some grade of SS.  Some used stamped manifold flanges, and some used a thicker plate flange.  Some had a proper recess at the bottom for the OEM "donuts", while others just used a flat flange and gasket.  Some people consider the Che manifold as the best, but over the years they have sold many different versions.

Stamped Manifold flange

Solid Plate Manifold flange

The one common characteristic is they all seem to have poor fit for the heatshields!

I have bought 2 for 2 different MR2's and just went with the cheapest (stamped manifold flange).  One key to header survival is to use the FL cast lower mounts, which are much stiffer than the PFL stamped mounts and use OEM gaskets.  One has been on one car for over 10 years with no issues.

tricky1138

Quote from: wotugonado on February 19, 2020, 18:04It looks very much like the one I had from America, better than the toyosports, the heat shield brackets never lined up very well though so that would be the tell.

Edit
Rumour had it, it was a che top speed one

I thought the heat shield was going to line up but checked again and it's just off!
2004 FL, Black, Matt Brace, Team Dynamics Monza R, Tein Springs, TTE Exhaust, heated black leather seats, black leather armrest,  Zunsport grills, Midship front badge,  TRD spoiler, Halo DRLs with LED fogs, large clear wind defector, Krissg kick panels,  small mongos.

tricky1138

Quote from: jvanzyl on February 19, 2020, 15:05Take a metal ruler to the head plate- if it's straight it's a good one, if not it's a JHM (I think)

Straight! :)
2004 FL, Black, Matt Brace, Team Dynamics Monza R, Tein Springs, TTE Exhaust, heated black leather seats, black leather armrest,  Zunsport grills, Midship front badge,  TRD spoiler, Halo DRLs with LED fogs, large clear wind defector, Krissg kick panels,  small mongos.

tricky1138

Quote from: Beachbum957 on February 19, 2020, 18:29It looks like a typical eBay manifold, but the problem is there have been many different manufacturers with differing quality and features.  Some were mild steel, while most are some grade of SS.  Some used stamped manifold flanges, and some used a thicker plate flange.  Some had a proper recess at the bottom for the OEM "donuts", while others just used a flat flange and gasket.  Some people consider the Che manifold as the best, but over the years they have sold many different versions.

Stamped Manifold flange

Solid Plate Manifold flange

The one common characteristic is they all seem to have poor fit for the heatshields!

I have bought 2 for 2 different MR2's and just went with the cheapest (stamped manifold flange).  One key to header survival is to use the FL cast lower mounts, which are much stiffer than the PFL stamped mounts and use OEM gaskets.  One has been on one car for over 10 years with no issues.

It's a solid flange and also has recess for the donuts!

I also have a facelift so the cast mounts will be going back on.

Now just to wrap it and get it installed!
2004 FL, Black, Matt Brace, Team Dynamics Monza R, Tein Springs, TTE Exhaust, heated black leather seats, black leather armrest,  Zunsport grills, Midship front badge,  TRD spoiler, Halo DRLs with LED fogs, large clear wind defector, Krissg kick panels,  small mongos.

wotugonado

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Quote from: tricky1138 on February 19, 2020, 19:22
Quote from: wotugonado on February 19, 2020, 18:04It looks very much like the one I had from America, better than the toyosports, the heat shield brackets never lined up very well though so that would be the tell.

Edit
Rumour had it, it was a che top speed one

I thought the heat shield was going to line up but checked again and it's just off!

Sounds very much like the che one then.
If it is che, Mwr still sell em for about 280.00 dollars. You might have a bit of a bargain there.
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The Hamish lower shield mounts were useless, didn't match the holes on the shield, I ended up drilling new holes in the shield and trimming around an inch off the top so the upper shield would fit over it.
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