60mph in second

[Jared]

Was reading some posts the other day and some were saying that the 2 can't hit 60 in second. So thought I would try it, I'm sure I got to around 64 or 65 just before 7000rpm and the pull tailed off a bit then I changed up. Mine has the 6 speed box but not sure if that matters.
Is it a case of wrong information or are the jdm/us cars just geared different to uk spec?

[Ardent]

There is a 5 speed box.

I forget the correct explanation.
But either one of these or a combo.

1, the ratios are the same up to 5th, and the 6spd has the longer gear for cruising and economy.
2, the 5spd is slightly longer geared in each, but still short of the 6th.

Never tried a 5, but many say it's the nicer/better box.

@Carolyn has a jdm so likely to give a better explanation than I.

[Joesson]

This post from Spyderchat contains a chart comparing rpm/ mph in each gear:

https://www.spyderchat.com/threads/speed-in-gear-table.56765/

"Research" will find some differences in MR2/ MRS ratios  / 5/ 6 speed boxes.

From our own Forum:
https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?msg=287726

Probably best to keep such posts away from any prospective For Sale post!

Reminds me of a Member's recent pm when they sought to confirm the top speed of an early Saab and then it demised.

[Jared]

This post from Spyderchat contains a chart comparing rpm/ mph in each gear:

https://www.spyderchat.com/threads/speed-in-gear-table.56765/

"Research" will find some differences in MR2/ MRS ratios  / 5/ 6 speed boxes.

From our own Forum:
https://www.mr2roc.org/index.php?msg=287726

Probably best to keep such posts away from any prospective For Sale post!

Reminds me of a Member's recent pm when they sought to confirm the top speed of an early Saab and then it demised.

Lol, I'm not looking to sell her just yet but if anyone was looking to buy a 20 year old rear wheel drive sports car of any type and was worried if they might have been driven a bit spirited in the past they best look to get something else.

But going back to the 0 to 60, I really don't test her that much as mine is a daily driver but it feels a lot more nippy than the 7.9 official figure might suggest.

[Ardent]

Torque pro has a 0-60 facility should you wish to use it so you can focus on the job in hand.

[Jared]

From that statement I'm assuming you have partaking in this specific task

[Ardent]

Oddly enough no.
Just that I know it's there.

[Petrus]

This post from Spyderchat contains a chart comparing rpm/ mph in each gear:

https://www.spyderchat.com/threads/speed-in-gear-table.56765/

Thanks @Joesson

Furthermore I see not much if at all issue in revving the engine once in a while. Imo less of an issue than lugging it.

0 - 60 or such is imo totally irrelevant as it is beside the point of the car and one should buy something else if sprinting is the object.

Lastly mine tends to spin the wheels* easily on take off and as it has. as @Ardent observed, a second wind from 6.5K so  it is easy to hit the rev limiter in first (past weekend in second as the tyres lit up while sideways and best not lift then    **). 
Nevertheless the speedo does go past 100 km/h*** in 2nd. And no, no harm in that at all imo.
To test the top speed**** I would need to put the roof up and take the silly big wing off but .... see below; twisties galore 

Anyway 0 - 60 in whichever gear a bit mêh imo as the nimbleness through the twisties is the thing of this car. And if one seeks to improve on that, then adding more lightness is the recipe to lower the MR², nóthing else.

Just gó for it; a3vt!

Since this is a public forum:
* not allowed on public road
** accidentally
*** only where permitted of course
**** ditto

[fawtytoo]

Torque pro has a 0-60 facility should you wish to use it so you can focus on the job in hand.

Although that won't tell you what gear you were in when you hit 60mph. Assuming you keep your eyes on the road and not on the TP app.

I think manufacturers like to cut things a bit short of what's actually possible as a kind of safety measure to prevent being sued for liable. They don't want to make wild claims that land them in court.

@Jared yeah 60 is possible in 2nd. Many say (including Toyota) the SMT has a slower 0-60 time than the manual but it's only one gear change, and the difference is marginal IMO as the gear change on the SMT aren't THAT slow especially if you're doing a 0-60 sprint. I haven't tried, but I'm confident. 

[Ardent]

I think the torque pro beeps or something so you know
when the speed being measured is achieved, eyes on road. Not the app.
Also I would imagine that's an actual speed rather than that indicated on the speedo.

Re the smt, slower than manual or not, I would agree, Marginal. But I know, it will be smoother (than me) and consistently so. From my brief experience, the changes were seamless. The coming down and rev matching. That was just a giggle.

[Ardent]

Think wheel spin or missed something on launch. But after that smooth changes.

https://youtu.be/p87I3yUicm8?feature=shared

[Jared]

Although that won't tell you what gear you were in when you hit 60mph. Assuming you keep your eyes on the road and not on the TP app.

I think manufacturers like to cut things a bit short of what's actually possible as a kind of safety measure to prevent being sued for liable. They don't want to make wild claims that land them in court.

@Jared yeah 60 is possible in 2nd. Many say (including Toyota) the SMT has a slower 0-60 time than the manual but it's only one gear change, and the difference is marginal IMO as the gear change on the SMT aren't THAT slow especially if you're doing a 0-60 sprint. I haven't tried, but I'm confident. 

I have never tried the SMT, I'm more of a manual guy but the wife loves her DSG, don't think she will go back

[Petrus]

Think wheel spin or missed something on launch. But after that smooth changes.

https://youtu.be/p87I3yUicm8?feature=shared

The secret trick about launch with SMT is to start in N. Rev it like you would a manual before launch end then drop it in D. The electronics will sort the clutch. As bad for the whole thing as with a manual.

[Beachbum957]

US spec MR2's had a 4.312 final drive ratio in the 5 speed (C56) and SMT 6 Speed (C65), and the UK 5 and 6 speeds (C66) had a 3.941 final drive ratio.  The ratios in 1st and 2nd were the same in all of those transmissions.

Calculated top speed in 2nd for US cars is 58 mph, and with UK gearing 64 mph.  Actual speed will vary with tire size. I am not sure about the JDM gearing