Disable Passenger Airbag??

Started by uktotty, June 29, 2009, 21:43

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uktotty

June 29, 2009, 21:43 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Can you do this for baby seats??

blahpony

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June 29, 2009, 21:49 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Yes. There should be a key switch in the glove box.

aaronjb

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June 29, 2009, 21:50 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "blahpony"Yes. There should be a key switch in the glove box.

Not on UK cars - that's a US-model only feature
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blahpony

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June 29, 2009, 21:52 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Really? How odd.

aaronjb

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June 29, 2009, 21:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Yep - I think the disable ability is mandated by law in the US, right? (But not over here)
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blahpony

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June 29, 2009, 22:03 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
The law is for child seats and small humans. It just seems strange they don't have the same law over there. Hmm, learn something new everyday.

custardavenger

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June 30, 2009, 11:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Not sure you've supposed to carry a child seat in the 2. But, you can unplug it from inside the glove box. Yellow wire I believe.
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uktotty

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June 30, 2009, 12:04 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Cheers Rob, dont worry I am not having a baby I am just fat

campbell

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June 30, 2009, 12:26 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Is the rule not just for rear facing child seats?  i have a 17 month old girl (called Elise) and i thought it was ok to put her in a front facing "toddler" seat   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  in the MR2!  I've never been pulled over, but thats not the point she needs to be safe
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uktotty

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June 30, 2009, 12:27 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Seems the DFT say its only for rear facing seats due to the seat  being closer to the airbag at time of explosion, Elise should be fine mate.

onion86

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June 30, 2009, 12:31 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "campbell"Is the rule not just for rear facing child seats?  i have a 17 month old girl (called Elise) and i thought it was ok to put her in a front facing "toddler" seat   s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  in the MR2!  I've never been pulled over, but thats not the point she needs to be safe

For front facing ones I think it's more (afaik) the fact that children are 'short' and so the airbag will wack them in the face and give them concussion and/or smother + suffocate them. You're not techincally advised to have young children in the front seat at all (although obviously can't help that in the '2), it's possibly best to have the airbag off if you have one in as the baby seats are pretty safe and hold them in. (I could be completely wrong though)

For rear facing seats it's just a big no-no which doesn't really need explaining.
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kentsmudger

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June 30, 2009, 13:03 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Quote from: "onion86"
Quote from: "campbell"Is the rule not just for rear facing child seats? i have a 17 month old girl (called Elise) and i thought it was ok to put her in a front facing "toddler" seat  s:oops: :oops: s:oops:  in the MR2! I've never been pulled over, but thats not the point she needs to be safe

For front facing ones I think it's more (afaik) the fact that children are 'short' and so the airbag will wack them in the face and give them concussion and/or smother + suffocate them. You're not techincally advised to have young children in the front seat at all (although obviously can't help that in the '2), it's possibly best to have the airbag off if you have one in as the baby seats are pretty safe and hold them in. (I could be completely wrong though).

The question is how old is the child? (or more importantly, how tall are they?) If they are big enough to go in an appropriate front-facing child seat or booster then you are fine.

There is no legal reason why a child cannot travel in the front seat with an air-bag - The Department of Transport says -
 "If you do carry children facing forward in the front seat, they should always be properly restrained and the seat should be latched as far back as possible."
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Tem

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June 30, 2009, 13:44 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
I think you can retrofit the US airbag cut off switch to EU cars. Think in bold, cause I'm not 100% sure and never actually tried it. But the airbag itself and the wiring seems to be the same and it just fits inbetween the wiring.

I know it was that easy on a Corolla, so why not in the Spyder/Roadster too.


On the downside, that switch was ridiculously overpriced, over 400eur. But I guess you could buy a used one from US from anyone who dismantles a wrecked car.
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campbell

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June 30, 2009, 19:53 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
cheers guys, i'll look in to disabling it somehow


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Thudd

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July 2, 2009, 08:41 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
Mind you don't set it off. That would be a bad thing.

cclarke99

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July 2, 2009, 21:57 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
You don't need anything special for the switch. Just a SPDT (changeover) switch and a 1.0ohm resistor. Connect the changeover contact to the one of the wires from the SRS ECU. Connect one of the other contacts to the Airbag. Connect the resistor from the other contact to the other side of the Airbag, so when the Airbag is disabled the resistor fools the ECU into thinking that the Airbag is still connected so you don't get any warning lights.

paul3461

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March 6, 2015, 19:10 Last Edit: January 1, 1970, 01:00 by Guest
mines  A uk one and it has the keylock in the glovebox too
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