*Help* (Please!)

nathanMR2 · March 28, 2012, 14:45

Just a right side cable needed as i understand it

Anonymous · March 28, 2012, 14:46

well matt was sure it was a stuck cable, and i dont think anybody will argue with him. now it might be possible to fix the cable ie free it up. however once water has got in and rust has started to form, even if you get it free it might get stuck again. now it just depends on cost if they really cheap then sod it might as well, but if they want a packet for them maybe try and free them off and look at fixing them at a later day. if you do want to get new then just ask for the handbrake cable. basically it will be a metal cable with a plastic cover round bit except for the ends which will have fittings on.

on a note of you booking a day off let me sort the head out first as i wouldnt want you to book everything and find out we need to move the date.

Stephster · March 28, 2012, 14:46

Standard cable is £35 - I know this 'coz I just had mine replaced. £30 if you have a mate in the trade who can get it at trade price. Do you need both sides or just one side, 'coz then obviously you'd have to buy two.

nathanMR2 · March 28, 2012, 14:57

Quote from: "nathanMR2"Just a right side cable needed as i understand it

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Stephster · March 28, 2012, 15:07

Quote from: "nathanMR2"s:wink: :wink: s:wink:

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Anonymous · March 28, 2012, 15:11

ok so lets be sure on everything.

we need
1. head gasket (order by mel)
2. offside (drivers side) hand brake cable (mattpermormance to confirm this is the case, mel to order when matt has confirmed) **right side more confusing as it depends if you look from the back or front

if you know of more things we need to go over mel please just add them to the list

MelBee42 · March 28, 2012, 15:12

MOT states: offside rear parking brake recording little or no effort
Parking brake efficiency below requirements

So a right side cable then I'm guessing, as Nathan says? Matt said a new one was definitely needed, and that the old one could not be repaired/freed. As it was the reason for the MOT fail I would definitely need to get that sorted before the 24th/going for another MOT.

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Anonymous · March 28, 2012, 15:19

ok post above updated and we will class it as replace on matts recommendations.
so only 2 things to fix, not to bad.
also whilst i think of it has anyone got an antifreeze that mel could use. if not mel you will have to get some as we wont be able to save the water im afraid.

kidkarter · March 28, 2012, 17:01

I could prob get a couple of ltrs of anti foc
What about stretchbolts ? I hate to add expence but do you really want to chance it ? On a motor thats been monkey'd around with like mels ? what if ones about to snap ? And its the reason the headgasket went the second time ? Matt did say it had gone in a wired place ! And what about the first time it went ? Is there any preventative maintenance we can do while the heads off ? Maybe check if the thermostat is working ? Has anyone got a spare by any luck ?

Anonymous · March 28, 2012, 17:31

Its all down to cost. Its one of those things that can build in price quick. A thermostat of say £10, headbolts probably another £30. A thermostat could of been the cause for over heating. For me to cut costs as much as poss im just going to change the gasket, but if Mel wants the other bits done I can change those bits as well

On a happier note head will be picked up on sat all skimmed, and they might be making my new exhaust manifold.

kidkarter · March 28, 2012, 17:52

yeah i know rich cost is key, i don't know ? i know its not my job to do but its been picking at me cos personally i wouldn't dream of re-using a stretch bolt ! and yet toyota go and say; yeah its fine, re-use them, it'll be fine ! haha theoretically it should be a quick easy job because its all been had apart very recently and you have a head ready to go straight back on ! s:D

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we could check the stat is working for her maybe if there's time ? we'll see what she wants to do and how much time there is?

on a simular note ! don't spose anyones got one of those coolant system pressurising kits have they

you can't beat them for finding a small leak !!

nathanMR2 · March 28, 2012, 18:02

That could be really handy if someone did

Anonymous · March 28, 2012, 18:07

Mel had a leak down test done twice. If it overheated due a part and not the gasket it will be the thermostat

kidkarter · March 28, 2012, 18:10

Or a spare res tank cap, or just a cap that fits ?? And we could prob make our own !
Oh did she I missed that Sorry ! Yeah true, can we assume they checked the fan is working too then ?

kidkarter · March 28, 2012, 18:14

All things we can check but I wonder if knew how to bleed the coolant system properly too ?? maybe they gave it back to her with an air lock ??

MelBee42 · March 28, 2012, 19:04

I know the garage's word is rather questionable to say the least at present, but they invoiced me for a new thermostat. (£10 I think)
I drove the car approximately 2,000 miles since it was with the garage for the head gasket 'fix' without losing any coolant (in fact I did top it once a bit but next few times I checked, the level had gone way up. Coolant level seems to fluctuate a bit on it naturally!).
Prior to that I was topping it up regularly (though bizarrely, intermittently as sometimes it didn't lose any).
In other, related news, I've also found a leak myself just now, went to start clearing stuff out of my car so opened the bins, everything is swimming in coolant (literally). I had two bottles in there that were mostly full and are now empty. I got something out of the bins just before I took it to Matt's and everything was dry so I am assuming they were leaking whilst he had it upended/at an angle looking at the connectors.
I'm sure I'm probably wrong and I'm sure this is a stupid question but I have sent Matt a PM just to check if this could in fact be the leak, although to be honest I have no idea where the gasket is so I wouldn't know whether it's even feasible that the coolant has been leaking from the bins somehow and made it look like it was leaking from elsewhere. (Although if someone could enlighten me that would be very helpful!)

nathanMR2 · March 28, 2012, 19:13

If i understand this correct...

You had some bottles of coolant in the bins.... They are now nearly empty with coolant in the bins.

Sounds like the bottles have leaked to me

MelBee42 · March 28, 2012, 19:20

Er, yes, obviously that's what's happened.
My question was if the car is upended and the bins are full of coolant, can coolant leaking out of the bins drip down and make it look like it's leaking elsewhere.

MelBee42 · March 28, 2012, 19:22

Probably also worth mentioning I've taken the side plastics out of the bins as well to create more room. Coolant has *definitely* leaked out of the bins - to somewhere. Hence my question...

nathanMR2 · March 28, 2012, 19:24

Possible...

Whats more concerning is the amount of wiring and electronics under the bins and if its managed to seap through to there s:? :? s:?

loadswine · March 28, 2012, 19:26

I think there is a small drain, at least under the passenger side bin. That would allow any spillage to flow out and under the car.
I'd have thought that if Matt has said the HG is leaking, then that is what was happening.

kidkarter · March 28, 2012, 19:38

so am i right in thinkin that, you think maybe the coolant you or mat saw leaking out was infact coming from the bins instead of the cooling system so there may not be a cooling system leak at all

indeed loadswine i think he said it running down the side of the engine block ? which was unusuall for these engines ?

MelBee42 · March 28, 2012, 19:45

No tests were done so far as I know (I wasn't paying for the HG to be checked, after all!), Matt said that there was evidence of coolant in the general area (which there would be if the bins had leaked when up at an angle, I'm guessing??), and he said that someone else from the garage said it appeared to be dripping from that area. I know he also said the coolant level had dropped, but it does tend to go up and down quite significantly. I'll see what he says, anyway.
I know it sounds silly and probably unlikely but it would be pretty dreadful to pay for all the parts and drag everyone up here to help if it was actually the bins! I don't want to waste anyone's time. Is there any way I can check this somehow? The coolant level hasn't dropped while it's been here and I didn't lose any on the way back from Birmingham (it's still overfull!).

kidkarter · March 28, 2012, 19:54

well a pressure test should show up any leaks,
but its still overheating isn't it mel ?

MelBee42 · March 28, 2012, 19:59

Overheating - no, definitely not! It did overheat *before* I took it for the HG 'fix'. No overheating since.